Parks and Recreation Advisory Board Meeting May 10, 2021
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Unknown Speaker 0:00
Well, thank you, everybody. Appreciate your guests joining here this evening. We have a quorum. So motion to move our meeting. All right, we can we can move into approval of the agenda. Hope you all had a chance to take a look at that. I don’t have any thing to add there. So motion to approve the agenda.
Unknown Speaker 0:27
More sharper. Sorry.
Unknown Speaker 0:33
Oh, God, we have a second. Second. Very good. Approval of the previous month’s minutes. I didn’t see any changes or additions there that were required. Do we have a motion to approve?
Unknown Speaker 0:53
My mother be approved?
Unknown Speaker 0:56
Second, on favor? into communications. From Our Pros. Ryan, how about you up first? put you on the spot. All right.
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All right. Sunset for March. Revenue wise were projected about 32,007 88. Actual came in about 18,430 $23 Excuse me. Round rounds, actual or season projected rounds for March or about 1493 came in actually around 1072. And I think one of the one of the real considerations to why it was down that was that, you know, that little blip. Kind of pummeled all of us for a while there we were, we were starting off really good for the year.
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Unknown Speaker 2:00
I mean, even when we were when we’re open like the yesterday today, Saturday, super busy. So I have I’m really excited for April for March, or excuse me, May, June, July, the summer months to really kick it into high gear. But yeah, March was a little was a little tough for us. It looks like
Unknown Speaker 2:29
Yep. Understood. Any questions for Ryan? Keep Sam.
Unknown Speaker 2:40
I’ll go ahead if that’s okay, Sam, you hear that?
Unknown Speaker 2:42
Yeah, go right ahead. Yeah,
Unknown Speaker 2:43
I would echo right. I think we were on the open 11 days, we had actual 11 days open and mark. So I mean, wasn’t the best one the best month. I think Ryan maybe even have less than that. Because sunset had a hard time uncovering because of number two and number one in those north facing slopes. So it Twin Peaks, we were 71,000 for March. And probably that’s a little bit inflated since Ryan wasn’t open, and we probably sold a few more season passes. And we bought it because people go to one course to buy them. And they go to the course it’s open. So we’re projected at 37 made 7188. Good month, this has been a good month. But again, we’ve only been open counted today, 14 days, something like that. So it’s really the weather has been tough. It’s certainly been a challenge. But we’ve certainly needed the moisture. And that hopefully gets us in a good spot. As far as having enough water to get through the summer. We played 1600 rounds for the month. Which was you know, pretty good, but not great. But for 11 days. That’s pretty good. So when we we’ve been trying my man Ryan there, the other Ryan that is Ryan hitting filter, we’ve been trying to get the greens verified now for about three weeks in a row and we still haven’t got it done so. And to him to him and his team. They’re doing such a good job just trying to reschedule and he’s communicated with me and we’ve tried to get communications out to everybody and and it’s been tough because we’re trying to fill the golf course but yet we’re trying to get it verified and we don’t want to upset customers. So it’s it’s a balancing act for us, but we’re getting through it and he’s doing a great job. Good. Any questions for Twin Peaks?
Unknown Speaker 4:32
All right. Thank you, Keith.
Unknown Speaker 4:36
Okay, yeah, just to kind of echo with, with Keith and Ryan. You know, we’re only open up open 10 days, but when we’re when the weather’s good, we’re busy. This past weekend. We were cranking at 229 rounds on Saturday, and 268 on Sunday, which is which is amazing for this time of year. We’re starting at starting our tea times at 730 are a kind of depending on for us. But we were booked each day till about five o’clock. So we, we had two great days. For the month, it actually looks good compared to prior year because prior year, we close March 16 due to COVID. So comparing from last year, you know, we’re at 102% in revenues in April so far, and then you look back in when we got reopen, we didn’t reopen until 20, the 23rd of April last year. So we are actually about $100,000 ahead so far in April. So things are good golf is I think golf, you know, is really strong right now.
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Unknown Speaker 5:46
I just have a question. Do you think that this is for all you guys has extending the passes? The extra what 35 days? I think it was going to be what do you feel like that’s impacted your revenue at all or
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Unknown Speaker 6:00
Yeah. Not for you Creek?
Unknown Speaker 6:05
I don’t think so. I think that I mean, majority of people are buying them anyway. And so they just buy them a little bit later.
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I think that the goodwill that that, that it raised, I think really made people really happy and thankful and and some didn’t even find out until they were ready to purchase. And I said, Well, you got another 30 days, and they couldn’t believe it. And that really made them feel good.
Unknown Speaker 6:26
Oh, good. Okay. Any other questions? By the way?
Unknown Speaker 6:37
Keith, I did a like a cost analysis for my group on because some of them are playing you Creek on the Tuesdays too. So I did a cost analysis on the breakeven and stuff for the different age groups. And they appreciate it. So hopefully I even promoted a few more passes.
Unknown Speaker 6:54
Oh, good. Thank you appreciate that. When it when you really sit down and look at the numbers, it really is a great value.
Unknown Speaker 7:01
It is a great value.
Unknown Speaker 7:03
Unless you’re having to rent a car and you got to pay the extra Penny then it gets a little frustrating. Well,
Unknown Speaker 7:08
they’re gonna do that anyway. Great. Well, thank you, Sam. Appreciate it. Yep. Any public? I didn’t. I didn’t see that. We hadn’t any public. Jeff.
Unknown Speaker 7:27
I don’t think said. Danny, have you heard from anyone?
Unknown Speaker 7:33
No, we don’t have any public.
Unknown Speaker 7:35
Okay. All right. Very good. Set all business don’t have any old business to attend to seven new business, youth instructional adult programs.
Unknown Speaker 7:50
You know, one of the one of the things Justin Drake who was on our board for one meeting and he had to resign because he was his business was relocating him had asked to talk about our instruction programs for youth. So Keith and Sam are ready to share what they have planned for this summer.
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Unknown Speaker 8:23
I’ll start let Sam
Unknown Speaker 8:26
Yeah, go ahead.
Unknown Speaker 8:28
At Twin Peaks as far as youth instructional stuff we do you know number one, I would say we do a lot of individual private lessons for the junior golfers I give. I’d say
Unknown Speaker 8:40
probably over half the lessons that I give are given to junior golfers so and I give a fair amount of lessons. So that’s a lot of kids that are getting impacted and that’s in my mind the best way to impact them because you can really make a difference and a half hour hour in they get them going in a series of lessons. And some kids just take them year round. And that’s how they really become really good skilled players. To get them to that place. We have two programs. On Mondays we have beginning June 7 for ages five to nine. We have a program called first step and they show up at 10 o’clock it’s a drop in program we’ve made a drop in for the mostly for the parents because it’s paid off to sign up it makes it a lot easier to be organized. And if you’re away on vacation, you don’t got to call and and follow up with us you just show up when you’re in town and we work with you when you get there. So they show up at 10 o’clock. We do about 45 minutes of hitting balls and when we’re out there hitting balls on the range. We put all sorts of targets out there and trash cans and swimming pools and they knock over baskets we and and you know we give them money when they do these things. We don’t give them candy or gifts and stuff. We walk around with rolls of quarters and dollar bills and and if they do and it’s pretty neat and I think had to get really excited, I will say every once in a while the individual who really, really wants to get something and doesn’t sometimes leaves a little disappointed, but for the most part, they really enjoy it, they get really excited. And then for 45 minutes, we do a similar similar thing with putting, we’ll set up stations and, and we’re teaching them how to putt. And will, you know, if they get it inside a, you know, a circle of quarters and they get they get a quarter. And if they make it, they get $1. Wow, that works out well for my business. Because when they all get done, they come in and they raise a snack bar, which is the number one thing that all children remember about Junior golf is the hotdogs and the candy and the restaurant and that that has drawn so many children to golf, I can’t even tell you, if you tell your children, they want to want to go to the range and hit balls, they’re going to ask you can we get some candy. So it works out pretty good. And then at the end of it, we offer a hot dog chips and a drink for $3. For the parents too. That way that your kids can all sit down and eat afterwards. And it’s really gone. Well, we’ve done it for a long time. So that’s on Mondays for the five to nine year old, then on Tuesdays, we do the same thing with it starting at 10 o’clock. And then, but with the Tuesday group can get so big. You know, we’ve had as many as 50 to 60 kids show up. And, man, it’s me and my my, you know, Assistant, Steve, and we get several volunteers that help us keep the ratios in a good in a good place. But we’ll get into that isn’t always how it is, you know that you never know because it’s dropping. But we break them into two groups and we line them up on the range. And then the other group goes on the putting green and then we’ll we switch after 45 minutes. So we don’t try to put a we teach the little kids together, but we teach the bigger the bigger kids in the two separate groups. And then we you know, we halfway through, we take a little water break and then we switch sides and and they go to the range and the kids on the range go to the putting green. And then when that finishes up, we offer that same hotdog chips and a drink lunch. And the difference between the first and the next step, the next step on Tuesdays we give them a playing option. So they get the opportunity to go out on the golf course. And so you know, this year, they’ll they’ll finish the lesson 1130 we’re gonna give a half an hour to kind of relax and eat which in the past, we honestly would finish at 12 and rush them through and they’re on the tee by 1215. So this way they get a half an hour, can take their time, eat their lunch, and then we teach them how to go to the counter and pay. So this is in both programs, we make the children pay, we don’t want the parents to pay us we want the children to handle the money. We want the children to go to the counter after the lesson is over and pay the money for their green fees at the counter. We want them to go to the snack bar counter and pay their money for their food just to teach them some responsibility and to help them grow comfort level at the golf course. And so then we pair them up and you know even before they go in, they’re already paired up in the group. So when they go upstairs, they report to the guy that’s checking them in. We’re in group one, group two, group three, and so on. He puts them in foursomes, and then we call them out as groups. They all pay their money, they have their lunch, and then they head out and they play nine holes. And our our deal on the nine holes is they get six shots, they get four putts on every hole. And so I basically as they’re going out, I holler at all of them six shots or pots do not get in front of each other. Yeah, because safety is a big thing, which we obviously stress when we’re around the range with him too. But I think in the last 10 years, we’ve only had one incident. And in one, you know, two brothers were playing together and one got out in front of the other one. And the kid of course hit the ball while his brother was in front of him and he hit get his brother, but it didn’t hit him in a bad place and it worked out okay. And I think my entire career. This is goes all the way back to my days at sunset when I took over in 97 there. We’ve only had one serious injury that has ever got her a junior golf and that and that individual. You’ll see him on Fox 31 News. His name is Evan kugel.
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he turned out okay. Yeah, he got hit in the eye. So, but again, he got out in front of his friends and Fran hit the ball and it got old Evan And so anyway, he’s uh, he’s doing okay. He’s had a really good career for himself. So anyway, we get them out there on the golf course we make them keep up with the group in front of them, which is we never let the slow groups let they don’t get to sit down and relax and let people go by. We teach them all to keep up with the group in front of them. And I will tell you, they are the fastest league we have on the golf course. They play in less than two hours. They’re finished in nine miles in less than two hours. And we talked to them about picking up on the golf course and picking up your trash and repair an extra ball marks and fixing divots and stuff like that leaving the golf course better than they found it. So it’s been a successful program for a long time and fingers crossed according to the health guidelines. We are going to be good to go. So we are planning on doing it. Monday program will start the seventh, the Tuesday program will start the eighth.
Unknown Speaker 15:29
That’s great Keith. June 8.
Unknown Speaker 15:34
Yeah, June 7 and June 8.
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And that’s all we got for Twin Peaks.
Unknown Speaker 15:44
So that sounds great. Sounds great. Thank you, Keith. Yep. Thank you.
Unknown Speaker 15:50
Sam, do you have anything you want to add today?
Unknown Speaker 15:53
I didn’t. How does anybody follow that? I mean, Keith is probably one of the best salesmen I ever met. But I do have to say he is also without a doubt, one of the best instructors in this state. And that and that is a fact. And he is without a doubt the junior golf leader in Colorado in long months. But he died, he does a great job. We do golf, we do Junior golf, is here as well. I’ve done some of the clinics myself over the years, I really don’t do that much anymore. I help out when I need to. But Tracy, he is our he’s a PGA Professional. He’s been at youth Creek since the course opened in 1997. He was actually at one time go to the junior golf leader for the PGA section in Colorado. So he’s great as well. Very, very good instructor. But he does our junior camps, they they pale in comparison to Twin Peaks. But for this year, they’re on hold. We’re not doing anything at this time for for 2021. Until, like Keith mentioned, the COVID restrictions. And I hope I’m not speaking out of turn here for Trey, but he’s, he’s um, he’s one of those guys. That’s very paranoid with a COVID stuff. And so he’s very he does classes and stuff, but he’s kind of nervous about being around a bunch of kids, though. So anyway, throwing all this point, but hopefully that changes. That’s it. Thank you.
Unknown Speaker 17:33
Excellent. Thank you, Sam. All right. There’s no other questions there. We’ll move into the new business. You Creek course presentation. I’m interested to hear about this. Sam. Sam, Dan starting. who’s joining Dan or me? Danny, do you know? Sam or Dan? Either already?
Unknown Speaker 18:14
is running the PowerPoint? Is that Nikki?
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who is starting his presentation Do I need first?
Unknown Speaker 18:28
We’ll go with the maintenance one.
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dance. Okay, label Damn,
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So going first. Dan is going first. All right. Yes, one second. I’ll bring that up for you.
Unknown Speaker 18:41
Thank you for that.
Unknown Speaker 18:46
While she gets that pulled up, I’ll just give a quick overview. I’m just going to talk about the projects we’ve been kind of doing the last couple years out at you Craig we started them. Most of them back in the fall late fall. We we got going with these first ones I’ll show but so yeah, we’ll do you Creek projects, and there’ll be four of them. So next slide, please. So that Okay, so we’re gonna start with the current path. This is the most recent one that we just finished up, actually, probably a couple of weeks ago. We just opened up the path today because the sod is pretty well established. Now. We’re still not going to have any carts drive on it because it’s still soft, and we’re gonna keep that as nice as we can right now because that was a lot of square footage Assad. As you can see, we laid our company laid over 5000 square feet, Assad on the 10 side and the 11 side. So we were able to fix up a lot of those were is out there. And then when you see the path, you’ll see they laid 95 tons of path mix which is at $49 a ton. So this project all said and done cost us about $16,600. And once we start, you can go the next slide, please. Once we started doing the project, we realized that the 11 side had gotten really wore out last year with all the golf that we had and all the single rider cards really wore out the the other side, we only really plan to do the 10 side. But when we got into it, it just made sense to do the other side also so so these are the before pictures, you can see how rough that path was. And all that. So then this is when they started prepping it. So they actually took the sod cutter and cut all this out individually, and tilled it up, use the skid steer to remove some dirt. And they did an awesome job of prepping that you’ll see if you if you make it out there, how smooth and how perfect they laid it. So next slide please. This is just more this is their their finished project. These ones here on the left, you’ll just you can just tell how how awesome that is just that gets my blood boiling, see and that stuff like that. But But and then on the ends there you can see they dug down about three, four inches to so there’s a nice base where the path meets the concrete. So next slide, please. And then there’s the finished product. You know, this is this is the beginning of 10 over here on the left, and then down the middle and then up there you can see where it kind of turns and goes to 11. Two but but like I said it looks great. So that was that was job well done. Bye. Bye. lnm are actually that one was done by GNS solutions. So Alright, next please.
Unknown Speaker 21:43
Yeah, Dan, I was out there this past weekend. That was great.
Unknown Speaker 21:47
Yeah, they did. They did a good job. So this is the next one, eight and 18 Lake banks, these ones. Over the past 20 years, the waves have just started to wash out underneath the banks and had made the banks very unstable and pretty unsafe for mowers, carts, people basically just walking on theirs. You know, they could have collapsed at any time. So this is a project we’ve been trying to do for a while and we had it scheduled for the beginning, kind of 20. But when all everything here just got pushed back. So So we started out with number eight first. So next slide. Oh, yeah, so Lake eight Lake bank was was about 500 linear feet of shoreline that we fixed up there. And that took 254 tons of riprap. And you’ll see once they did it, the whole process they did but and then we also added a little extension. We did it for our mowers when they turn around when they’re mowing greens, but the golfers are going to be really happy with it to the little extra extra. Yeah. Yep, so you got an extra 30 feet,
Unknown Speaker 23:07
about 3000 square
Unknown Speaker 23:08
feet total, you know that we laid there upside so so yeah, you got some, some extra room to play off of, you know, and we open it where we’re ready to let people hit out of there. It’s pretty solid right now. So and that project came to about $40,000 so so I’ll show you some pictures here of all the work they did. So next slide, please. Yeah, you can see before and most of you have been out there, you know how, how just unfinished it looked, you know. So once we got going, it just really made it worth it. Next slide. Yeah, they came in with all this road base and fill material and just, they were actually able to we were able to lower the lake form so they were actually able to get inside the lake. The next one, you’ll see they had to do it all from the top but but they filled that all the way across. And then they laid the rock on top of the road base. So So next slide. And then this is the extension you’ll see it Wow. Yeah, it’s it added a lot of area and it finished it you know, where the lakes kind of circular now instead of cut out in there, I mean, that was a good look like that. But, but it was a safety issue. And probably, I don’t know, 1015 years ago, we did have one guy slide and off that bank when it was frosty and kind of do we out there so so it was it was well worth it. Next slide, please. Yeah, and then you’ll see this is where they they laid the rock. They kind of just come in with a skid steer and dump and then the the traco would kind of level it out. And yeah, they made their way around. So next slide.
Unknown Speaker 24:47
And then oops.
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And then we you Creek staff came in and added irrigation to that whole lake bank because it would in the summer months you know that’s a that’s a south facing slope. So it would get really hot. And we wanted to add irrigation to that new area and we spent the money to build it up. So we wanted to irrigate it and keep it looking nice. So we did the whole lake bank. So it’ll, that’ll all be irrigated now. And it should have a lot more dense turf on there in the summertime. Next slide, please. Yeah, and there, we are laying the side. So they don’t, they’re delivered the sod up on the road. And then we took our tractor and, and brought it down, there was probably six of us or something laying it, two guys would would lay it out, and the other four guys are so incoming, drop it and, and then there on the end, you just want to really soak it down, when you when you get sat down there to get it to establish.
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And then this next one is at Lake bank, this one was 600 linear feet, and 304 tonnes, and this one came came to 34,000. The reason this one was less, so we didn’t add that bank and add the sod and add the irrigation. So this one, this one looks really good, too. They helps finish the whole and this one was the one that was really getting undercut the worst that we’re most worried about our big rough more parts and all that so. So next slide, please. So this one, you can see how all that stuff was already falling off. And next pictures, they’ll show how the company actually just pushed it in the ground to the lake and use that as some of their material to lay the rocks on. These guys. Actually, they did most of the work by hand with shovels and stuff. So they use the excavator a little bit but but they had, they had a little different approach. And it turned out good. You know, so this is them laying the rock here with the excavator. So next slide. And yet, they just kept going, you can see it in the middle pregnancy, the one on the left to how they’re beings they use they use dirt and stuff too, but they didn’t use quite as much roadbase but and then when you do projects like this and in late December you end up with frozen lakes this so therefore the excavator comes in good to break that up. And they can get their rocks down in there further. Next slide. Yeah, there it is the the finished product so so it looks good. Both both projects looks really good. It looks great from the clubhouse looks great from pace are 17. Dabney sorry, when you’re driving, you know, it makes it stand out. So so it was a job well done. next project, please. This one was just, this is for us maintenance. Guys, here are our old shop here. We had done this project probably 10 years ago, and it’s just been wore out. And it was so dusty. You know, in our dry summers, anytime a card or any type of equipment would drive through there would just be a dust cloud and, and our mechanic works just over here to the left and his right picture, this shops right over there to the left, and he’s like the main road right through there. So he would just get bombarded with dust all day. So so we got ahold of a large safety officer got ahold of our operations team and they came in and, and did this project for us. So it’s very well appreciated. So next slide, please. You can see this is them prepping it, they kind of went through and leveled it out because it had humps and bumps and all sorts of stuff. So they went through and then the middle ones, the big trucks that brought it in, and then they would just dump piles there and the big big grader would come through and level it out. And, and they did a great job. So next slide. This is the big machine, they didn’t skimp on size of the equipment they brought in to help us out. So that was nice, this thing’s got a what they call laser levels on there so he can go along and I’m not positive how it works, but it kind of goes on its own and just makes everything perfectly flat, you know, and then they the other guys here on the picture on the right would do a little handwork you got to touch up all the edges and this guy in the skidsteer would come and do all the small areas that the big guys couldn’t get into. So next slide. Yeah, and then they came through and they rolled it all they rolled everything the whole place back and forth to really compacted down so so it should should be good for quite a while hopefully by the time that that new facility comes by but and then they sprayed it with me magnesium chloride and and that should really keep the dust down and and luckily it rain which really helps too. So it started to rain a little bit and then all the snow and other rain we’ve had is really compacted down so like I said here We appreciate all the help from other city organizations and it’s gonna be great this summer not having that that dust blowing everywhere so so that’s a that’s you Creek in the last few months with our major projects.
Unknown Speaker 30:00
A lot of work well done.
Unknown Speaker 30:03
Thank you. Any questions? Well,
Unknown Speaker 30:05
well done, Dan. Appreciate it. That’s not, Sam.
Unknown Speaker 30:27
While we’re waiting for this slide, I just want to mention about Dan and his crew. They do a great job on this golf course. I think you all you saw this courses last weekend, Earl. Marcia, I know you’ve been coming out and playing as well. And some nice seeing that we’re actually putting money back into the golf course. This is kind of a new thing for us since Jeff reasoner came on it’s been fantastic. That riprap that Dan, Dan mentioned on hole number number eight, when you come in, when you come in your first impression of a golf course, is now with the riprap. So you got a great first impression, and you also got a great last impression when you leave the golf course. Coming down. 18 you see the same thing. So it’s, it’s really made some great improvements. So it’s really nice to see.
Unknown Speaker 31:17
Yeah, agreed. It looks great. Okay,
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you Creek operations. Um, well, we were lucky enough to be voted golfers Choice Award in 2021. What they do every year is they rate the top 25 horses in each state. And we were lucky enough to get on to be a part of that. This is all review based. So because I was kind of curious when this first round, like how did we get this award? How does this work? You know, so I contacted the company and and asked some question and they said it’s all based on reviews. And they they sometimes will send reviews out like you like if you go if you go somewhere and you book it online, you’ll get prompted to do review it’s kind of works that way. And the next page will show you a little more about that next page please. That’s the wrong one.
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Unknown Speaker 32:47
Okay, so so a summary of the reviews you can see that of the people that did the reviews It was 365 and our overall rating was a 4.4 which is very good about 96% of people that play you Creek would recommend it to other folks and the reviews were based on six different areas one is conditions obviously the maintenance guys are nailing it on the conditions in the value of the golf course course layout Robert Trent Jones the second design No surprise there that that’s a high rating friendliness of staff probably days that I wasn’t working no just but no we do we got a great staff here I think from from our pro shop or snack bar staff or volunteer Marshal program. I think the folks did a great job with our two weakest areas is the pace of play and amenities you know, the the Robert Trent Jones a second design is is a tough course and presents a challenge and pace of play has been an issue for us amenities as well. And so I’m going to touch on those two areas on the next few slides here. So the next one, please. Okay, so to give some background on our clubhouse amenities, and how our current setup came to be. This is the original plan for the ukri Pro Shop and restaurant. So if you look at this slide here on the far left, it says North elevation phase two. That’s our current current pro shop and that’s looking at it from like The First Tee. Then if you go to the right hand side, you’ll see phase two and phase one. That’s a west facing views like from the 18th green that’s looking back at our clubhouse and what was supposed to be our restaurant The the restaurant and the original plan was going to be a full service restaurant could seat 144 player tournament afterwards to my understanding, so there’s a great place in the plans to, you know, promote tournaments and and, and just for our day to day use having a facility for our golfers but the funds ran low. So the decision was made to do the building in phases. So we did phase one to start with as our current building. And so everything inside of our building now is temporary. The snack bar area is a temporary setup, the dining room is temporary. So everything is crammed into one small area. That’s why we have such a small dining room. And why are our snack bar is so limited because it’s supposed to be a temporary situation. But we’re still waiting for the funds to get this done. However, we have made a lot of we’ve done a lot of improvements over the years. And it’s been kind of a challenge for us. And I think we’ve done some really fun things. So on the next next slide, we’ll talk we’ll get into that a little bit more. So improvements to the amenities. We edition, a new patio furniture edition of the lower pavilion and picnic tables, and improved food selection. Next slide, please. Okay, so this this is a picture from our our phase two area which is now a patio is not a bad thing. It’s a great patio. The views overlooking 18 fall in the northern Front Range is awesome. And Jeff, again, I mentioned Jeff puts money on the golf course. He purchased these tables and chairs for us and they’re high quality and they’ve really dressed it up. So it’s nice it’s not it’s not a full service restaurant, but it’s it’s really a nice plate. I mean, when I came in this afternoon there was about oh 10 tables were filled out, they’re spread apart, of course, you know, with the COVID stuff, but it was it was busy. Next slide, please.
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to really like I mentioned earlier with the with the restaurant trying to sell turning tournaments is huge business for us. And you have to have an area that attorney can come in afterwards to do their awards and their dinner courses built in 1997 I don’t know what they did before 2003. But the quanis Club donated this pavilion for us. And then in 2008 we went ahead and added picnic tables I got here in 2006 and for the first couple of years I was really pushing hard to get golf tournaments. And every time I fill it up I had to rent tables and chairs to make it happen. So we finally got these picnic tables put in and now it’s it’s a really nice place for folks to do their work or terms to their awards.
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Next slide please.
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The next slide please. Oh there is I’m sorry. I’m sorry.
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That’s right my fault. Got a little ahead of myself there. Um, what what right there. Another thing that we’d like to see happen here and we would actually kind of working on it for the last couple years that in 2020 we’re really gonna start trying to push for to get more weddings and stuff out here. It’d be a great wedding venue. With the with the saying that we have overlooking the golf course. It would be perfect. It really is a great place for it. But it just needs to be dressed up a little more. I don’t know what that would really Intel. You know I kind of I kind of picked you like some wood beams and stuff. I know just to just to pretty it up some. But the other big issue with doing readings for us is it’s not enclosed. So when the weather comes in, it could be a disaster and I’ve seen it happen I remember one time it might even be this one here the pitcher but one time we had it all set up. We had all the wine glasses everything set up on the tables and gust of wind came through, but we lost every glass.
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if some that would be my wish list, if somewhere down the road that we can get this thing in close, I kind of pitch your like a garage door type of like a fold down door something that we could open air, then if it starts to get bad, we can bring it down. But what are the improvements so yeah, much better anyways, next slide. So the creek snack bar was intended to be a temporary setup, I picture on this one and tell the phase two can be completed. So right now we have no fire suppression system and no hood. So we’re very limited on our kitchen equipment. We had we were set up with a hot dog roller, a hot dog roller, a microwave oven. And
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that was about it. Next slide please. I’ve got there’s one more I can’t think um
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there it is, we had an extra slide in there for some reason. Um, so without the hood and fire suppression system. Our meals were limited to basically cold sandwiches Actually, that’s on the next slide.
Unknown Speaker 41:39
Go back up.
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One of the slides got we got an extra signer is confusing me, which is not hard to do. So basically, okay, so we have a sandwich table, we got a sandwich table and a hot dog roller. So basically all we were able to really do is cold sandwiches, sandwiches, wraps, hot dogs and rots. We’ve tried a bunch of different things over the years to try to amp up our food service for just the day to day customers. And one of the things we did is we we tried a gas grill we put that out in the back of the snack bar so that we can cook hot food and that was really it was difficult kind of difficult because there was no flow to it. Um so we still use that for tournaments it works great, you know we have tournament outings we that’s what we use to prepare food we use the gas grill then we go the next slide now so we came across this back in 2013 This is called an auto frame and what this is it’s a fryer that has a self contained fire suppression system and that that is really helped us a lot I mean we’re nowhere close to where we need to be yet but it is it’s been a huge show we got a lot of fun food items down
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go the next slide please.
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Yeah, this is basically we’re able to do prior to the auto fry Cole sandwiches dodge brah I gotta say the are broadsword delicious they’re all beef quarter pound are broads we put a lot of work and effort into finding the best broad but that was all we had you get a sandwich dog or a Broughton chips. And that was pretty much our only selection. Next slide. Now that we got the auto fry you can come in and have a high school beer and a cheeseburger after your round. And with fries it’s a potato chips. chicken sandwiches next line wings our wings are amazing as well. I got the waistline to prove it chicken tenders and that is a common example of what we can do now. So we it there has been some improvement made with our food selection. Again, it’s not it’s not in we’re anywhere where it needs to be. But it is definitely better than what it was with just that one piece of equipment. Okay, before I go into a face of plays Any other questions any questions at all?
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so about you’d Creek again, I’ve kind of mentioned already. Robert Trent Jones, a second design. World Class golf course. We’re very lucky to have this course here in our alumni community. Tough course. So it’s definitely it’s been our challenge for pay supply. And the next slide please. So here’s some of our challenges for the base. We got five legs, they now have riprap on them. We got five blanks that come into play on six of our halls the two creeks that that meander through the golf course that comes into play on seven of our halls. We got native grass on on airview Hall which end up being a link style golf course is really important to have the native grass we got to be careful about how we maintain it, but because the native grass really defines our course, because we don’t have all these trees so that’s really our is a really nice feature. However, the good native grasses you know, you bought heating and air and shot into the native grass it takes forever to find the wall and then as the out of it out of balance on almost every Hall 55 sand bunkers, we got multi level fairways for difficult approaches to the greens. undulating green for difficult finding conditions our greens can be tough if we want to make them tough and forced carries on several halls. There’s many holes out here that you have to either carry a green side bunker, a fairway bunker, Cree, the lake on a couple of halls, a native area gets tough course. Next slide, please. So we come up with like five different five different steps to to improve our pace of play. Some of these are ongoing, and some are kind of new, but we’ve increased our course Marshal and First Tee readers to half trying to educate our players a little more. We’ve added white tees. And we’ve tried to do an easy course set up during peak times. And again, to maintain the native areas in some strategic areas. Next slide, please. Okay, this is a, this is a sample of our, or this is our schedule during our peak season. And the biggest change that we made going into this season is we amped up are our greeter, our first t greeter from six o’clock in the morning until two o’clock. So we have somebody out there, standing on the first tee for the first eight hours a day, seven days a week, we still only have that on the weekends. But we I think that’s probably the most important position out here. Because those guys can, can meet the players when they come to the tee. They can talk about any conditions on the course that are relevant. They can suggest the correct tees to play from. And also talk about our pace of play our pace of play, our recommend is should play in four and a half hours. That doesn’t always happen up. I don’t know what your pace of play was like this past weekend or Oh, but we started off great. started off at four and a half. But by the end of the day we were we’re close to five hours.
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We were four and a half. We were right at four and a half.
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Yay. Glad to hear that.
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What was your afternoon. It was great. We teed off at 10 ish. It was after the men’s club. So it was great.
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Once the tee time start getting to about the one or two o’clock time those folks starts finishing in about five hours because it’s you know basic plays like a one lane road, you can only go as fast as the as a group in front of you. And that’s why we have amped up our marshaling so that we have marshals on the course. From the first tee time of the day to the last tee time of the day. Just to help with an assist players.
Unknown Speaker 48:41
How many minutes are between groups teeing up?
Unknown Speaker 48:45
That’s a good question, actually. Because that varies from golf course to golf course are scattered in long run has always been eight minutes. Yeah. We changed that last year because it COVID
Unknown Speaker 48:59
Yeah, I thought we
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were now at 10 minutes. And that’s helped a lot as well, because it just, it just takes some of the pressure off. And it just makes for a more enjoyable experience. The only concern with that is, you know, you’re losing almost two t times per hour. So you start doing the math on that. That’s a lot of revenue. Yeah. But our demand is so high right now that we’re filling the golf courses up more days of the week. Like for instance, we used to really rely on our Friday, Saturday and Sunday Times to generate our revenues we’re filling up almost every day. So
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As a recently retired person out during the week day, one can ask yourself if anybody works anymore.
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I ask that all the time I these three something are out here all the time. I think they’re working from home but it’s unbelievable how many how many young guys play Every day of the week, you’re out here playing, it’s amazing. Which is great for us. You know, like we mentioned earlier in the conversation we talked to, you know, golf is strong. And that’s been one of the one of the great things from COVID. I just hope that God continues for us now, when things start getting back to normal, but right now, it’s great. So 10 minute intervals. You know, I think we all agree we’re gonna try to stay with that for now.
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Next slide, please. So player education, you know, we speaking of all these new guys coming to the game, a lot of folks just don’t know how to play fast golf. So we have these cards, it’s like, um, like three, like three inch by maybe eight inch. And it’s two sided. The pace of play policies on one side of the ready golf rolls are on the other side. And this is one it’s a good tool for our, for our marshalling staff. Like for instance, the first tee grader, he know that first bullet point can say, USGA recommends for nap hours for you Creek, then go down to the bottom of that card, and say, here are the suggested teas based on your handicap or your ability, you know, make it fun for yourself. Don’t go all the way back go up, make you know. So it’s just a matter of getting the guys to play from the right tees helps a lot with the pace of play. And ready golf rules. A lot of folks just don’t really understand how to keep it moving. And these are just some very helpful tips to help people with that. We’ve got these available in the pro shop and our our marshals have them available to handout as well.
Unknown Speaker 51:43
Next slide, please. Yeah, I love the white tees. Thank you, Sam.
Unknown Speaker 51:50
You bet man. And you know, it’s I think there we all been around golf long enough to we grew up whenever it was three sets of tees, red, white, and blue and the red was for women. Light was for men and blue is championship. So you would never catch a guy on the red tees. Those are ladies. But that stigma is really starting to go away. It’s amazing how many guys it’s up with the red tees now.
Unknown Speaker 52:17
There’s quite a few more that should be
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there. There seems to be a fateful like the 150 markers. But um but having the suggested tees by course handicap, I think really helps because the guy can just say, hey, yeah, they’re telling me to play from these tees. Here’s what my handicap says we’re not we haven’t on the face of play card. Do we have it on this scorecard as well? That’s good. Okay, next slide, please. And then easy court set up during peak times well, because every day No, but Friday, Saturday, and Sundays are really, except for ladies days, we try to keep the course easy, ladies day we make it really as difficult as we possibly can,
Unknown Speaker 53:02
I’ve noticed that you even move in more sand traps,
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we have 55.
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But on the scorecard, you see the you see the pin sheet or the or the whole location chart, we got one through six. This serves two purposes one, it It helps with the wear and tear on the greens. So the maintenance guys just kind of follow that program. And then two, it helps the golfers to know where approximately where the where the pin is out on the greens. I mentioned earlier that the greens are very undulating. So as they’re doing the core setup, they try to try to find the flattest areas on the greens. So just to make the fighting as easy as possible. And then also we try to move the tees up as well every chance we get. Next slide please. To me, I think this has been made the biggest improvement on pace of play cuz I get to every time I just seen guys out there looking for that $5 golf ball, and just spinning forever looking for it. So the native area we identified a couple of years ago, the areas marked in blue. And we started to maintain them, but we just got aggressive with it. The proposed areas were marked in yellow. And we are now cutting all of those areas down. And I think that’s helped tremendously with our pace of life.
Unknown Speaker 54:35
Can I ask a question? Yeah. Have you noticed anything? As a result, most of people are leaving the pins in? Is that made any difference at all?
Unknown Speaker 54:46
It’s pay to play? I don’t really that’s a good question. But
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I don’t know. I
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don’t think so. But okay. It’s possible.
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I’m just curious.
Unknown Speaker 54:56
Yeah, I just have one less step of putting the flag back in. So And the rules of golf now you can leave it in as well. So that’s kind of change just prior prior to COVID as well. That’s it for you, Craig.
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Any other questions? That’s good.
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Very good. Thank you, Sam. Appreciate that. Thanks. Any items from the staff at all? Or members? staff? Nope.
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Can I ask you a question? Yep. Um, two things. First of all, just so you know, I, I, my wife right here moved here about 12 years ago. And I live about seven minutes from Twin Peaks and seven minutes from sunset. So I go back and forth. have been for, you know, over 12 years last week. How is it you Creek and with a couple and we teed off on four. And the man had a, you know, hit his tee ball and about 200 yards in the air hit a tree on the right side and bounded out in the air industry? Would you believe hit a car coming by broke the windshield?
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so that means I’m ever playing there for 12 years, the first time it ever happened. But what came up? Was everybody’s wondering, well, gee, do they ever thought about putting, you know, some kind of fence along that the was a third, Third Street? And just perhaps perhaps preventing that from happening? I’m just curious. What’s the background on that?
Unknown Speaker 57:00
You’re referring to hold number four at sunset cry?
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Okay. Um, Jeff, I don’t know if you want to answer that. But I’ve had this come up. But I think we went against that at one point, because it’s gonna cost it would cost outrageous amount of money, it would
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well, and I think it also has a impact to the neighbors, we if we were going to consider that we’d need to do some real public meetings to get their input. Because looking out that all the time at at that big tall fence, I think is gonna give them an opinion that it’s it may save cars and windows, but it could be pretty ugly looking.
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agree with that. Jeff, I would think the neighbors and neighbors really oppose that. Yeah.
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It was just amazing to think about that bounced off the tree. Thank you. Heading out there, slice it out there. You know, I had to hit a tree. And then right at that moment of car had to be driving by it had I mean, it was amazing. And of course, the car stopped and he went over there and they, you know, exchange insurance stuff like good stuff. The other the other question I have today, I played with a couple of elderly ladies. And they were sort of upset that they couldn’t drive their car out to their car to put the clubs in. And I’m curious as to what controls that are. Can we open that up or not? To try for sunset?
Unknown Speaker 58:37
For any of the courses?
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Well, Twin Peaks you can
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Yeah. And that’s how I go back and forth. Those two guys. I thought, well, Twin Peaks can Why can’t you know sense that?
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You want me God?
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Yeah, I’ll kind of give a brief explanation to one of the one of the main reason reasons to why we don’t do it at sunset is on a busy given day, for sure. Likes Friday, Saturday, Sunday, even today, I played myself, as well out there today. We don’t have enough carts with single riders, with everyone taken single riding carts and whatnot. If there’s four cards in a group, and I’ve got, you know, right now we’ve got 12 rental cars that we get from mastic. And then we’ve gotten additional 27 I believe, is that correct? Ryan? Yeah, 27 electrics at sunset, one of which is still down, we’re trying to figure out the error code that it’s throwing. So if we do that, I mean, the problem when you finish a lot of players, when they go to the parking lot, they end up mingling, they sit around, they take their time, it ends up being a little too slow for the 10 minute even with a 10 minute interval, but trying to disinfect the cart. Get it clean. And prep for the next group. That’s a small process by itself, it’s five to 10 minutes to turn the car and have it disinfected properly. So that alone, if I’ve got no carts and four carts come off and run to the parking lot, and I have a group that’s supposed to be teeing off. Now, that puts me in a dilemma that I could be five to 10 minutes, even 15 minutes behind, then puts us into a small dilemma of Well, you’ve got too many people gathering together, that are not within the same household. If one person only takes one person to contact Boulder County or the city, yeah. And that puts the pros ourselves under a little bit of heat, because we have our own licenses for the food and beverage and liquor licenses. And if any of that gets shut down for any reason, then the city is going to look at us and say, hey, we’ve got a we’ve got to have a different conversation. And we don’t want to have to
Unknown Speaker 1:00:59
make a suggestion because I know a lot of delays at play in our Twin Peaks like league also play in the Tuesday league. Is there any chance that you can hire like a high school kid or something for the summer to help carry bags out to the parking lot?
Unknown Speaker 1:01:15
One issue with that, in my opinion, I I’d love to do something like that. But a lot of people don’t want others touching their their equipment. Yeah. And with COVID you’re not supposed to touch someone else’s equipment at the
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So and who knows, by the time, March may rolls around with if all restrictions get lifted, then that’s a different animal, don’t we that will all let carts go into the parking lot at that point. If If I can justify that I have enough cars to survive at least three extra tee times. So we don’t have a delay and and really, the pace of play issue would be the next phase. So yeah,
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no, I understand.
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I’m all about it. At one point here soon. It’s coming.
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Hey, Ryan, I wanted to ask you to did you guys get it? I know you had a lot of damage on the course after that big snowstorm we had in March looks like you got all the branches and stuff cut down. Do you have any stats as to how many? You know how much you own?
Unknown Speaker 1:02:19
I think from what I remember we’re calling and Ryan, if you want to step in and if you know the number but I think we had around eight to nine pretty large branches that came down. Brian and my my close.
Unknown Speaker 1:02:33
Yeah, I’d say somewhere in that ballpark. We didn’t count them. Specifically since the city’s forestry department came out and helped us clear a lot of the larger ones. Okay, since they’re since some are still attached to the trees themselves. And they had to climb and use their bucket truck to get it and then they use their Grappler truck to haul it away. So a lot of that removal was out of was passed our abilities. But as of right now, all of the we did not lose any one tree. It was this large branches off a tree. Any specific trees during it and right now they are all picked up except for a few back behind the maintenance shop that are still hanging out back there.
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All right. Thanks. Thanks. All right. Any other questions? Jeff, this is our final words. Yeah, go ahead. Yeah. I just wanted for the ones for Sam and for Tim. You know, I live in that neighborhood or you Creek and phase two is really intriguing because there is no real bar on our whole side of town, or a sit down restaurant. So if we get that done really awesome, but I wanted to tell you guys, I’ve been traveling extensively from Florida, South Carolina, and I’m in California. And when I come I play other municipal courses. Ours are far superior to anything I’ve played anywhere else. I mean, all these other immunities are just a mess. They can take a page out of your guy’s book what you’re done with our courses. Yep. So and then the other the other thing same. Is there an actual menu for snack bar? I have no idea those french fries and cheeseburgers and am I missing? Or am I just looking at am I focusing on the bar that’s what
Unknown Speaker 1:04:29
I do when I go to the golf course as well. So um you know, again, we were not a restaurant we are really a temporary snack bar setup with limited limited equipment to prepare meals. So we do not have a menu but if you noticed in the slides, but the picture that we had of the snack bar, there’s a chalkboard you can right behind the counter there that has all of our stuff on it.
Unknown Speaker 1:05:05
I never could get past the viewing of deals for the menu. So
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next time you write you got to try one of our hamburgers, man, they are delicious.
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any final comments? Nope. Bye.
Unknown Speaker 1:05:25
Thank you, Sam and Danny did a great job on presentation. I thought there was a lot of good information. Yeah. I’m Ryan Hennings. And Keith will be presenting at the next time we meet.
Unknown Speaker 1:05:42
Target. And Jeff, for yourself, then, ultimately waters, do appreciate the volunteer gift certificate that was sent along our way. very much appreciated. Thank you for that.
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Thank all of you for all the time you put in to help us.
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Thank you all. If there’s nothing else, motion to adjourn.
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Elgar approves or seconds.
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All right. Thank you all, folks. Thank you. Thanks, everyone. Thanks. All right. Hi, thank
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