LHA Board of Commissioners Meeting – March 2024


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LHA Board of Commissioners Meeting – March 2024

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Speaker 1 0:00
Let’s start with the roll call. Let’s there’s something I forgot. Who’s gonna do it. We just worked our way around the table. Okay, so Chair, Vice Chair. Commissioner Chris president, Michelle Martin Martin.

Unknown Speaker 0:25
Mr. Sean McCoy president. Compliance Manager Tracy DeFrancesco is the Ghana regional manager. Here, supervisor Kennedy is

Speaker 2 0:41
going to jump in. I’m going to introduce Lauren Seeley who is the new assistant director for Hallmark counseling and worry that we are so that was position would you all agree with the budget. Olive Warren talked a little bit about herself but quickly boring. Work for the county. We’re over County Housing Authority. Lauren actually uniquely that was appointed by the council to be argue for review on the Housing Authority Board. Why she’s doing this. She’s now

Unknown Speaker 1:22
your we got to refinish

Speaker 2 1:24
the alcohol or we can do it during the workout? Yeah,

Unknown Speaker 1:28
Lawrence Elliott’s isn’t

Unknown Speaker 1:31
there. They’re

Speaker 3 1:35
monitored on health care policies and cities.

Speaker 1 1:44
So any agenda revisions or submission of documents to the review and approval of the February 20 2024 minutes move to February 2024 minutes as presented. Second, so we Commissioner coy made a motion to approve the minutes and seconded by Commissioner Chris. All in favor say aye. Hi, my proposed public invited to be heard you have any members?

Speaker 2 2:33
No speakers from the public want to speak? Three minutes.

Speaker 1 2:40
Okay. So now we’re on to Item five, business organizational chart.

Speaker 3 2:51
All right, so you have a nice big version in your magnets. So we just wanted to bring this to today because primarily from a couple of staff changes that we had Lauren included, and also on the city side of the housing division, Christy wise into the housing investment manager position. And so we ended up doing, you know, looking at everyone’s, the needs of the organization and the skill sets and just what makes sense for the future now that we’ve had about two years under this kind of new setup, at least since I came into this position and what we’ve done since. So really, we’re talking now for the housing, city and lhsaa housing group overall, there’s three main arms, this city’s Housing, Community Investment division that really does the funding and policy and all of that city work. And then we’ve got the Lhh operation side, which is what Warren is heading up a feather V includes property management or voucher programs and maintenance. And then in the middle, we kind of carved off housing development from HCI and put in the middle because it really goes across the path across both so often. And then that also leaves room for future growth in that development arm as well as we keep going, you’ll get so many opportunities that he kind of has to. So what you’ll see here VIP chain rewards position, you’ll see the lease up and a maintenance supervisor that says vacant but we’ve actually made an internal offer here in the last couple days. So that maintenance supervisor position and then Tracy’s work on the compliance and how we capture sides. All under this operations aren’t that Lauren is heading up. So I really see the three pieces all coming together and criss crossing in certain areas and also dividing and conquering and others so we can really get a lot done. The other change you’ll see on here is you’ll see clinicians down at the bottom. Those are one of them. They’re all All city positions in the mental health center of excellence model, one is going to be funded by mha. And dedicated to this week’s the other two are funded by the city housed at the suites co located, but that release are being citywide efforts, but just having more presence there, which is really, really beneficial. So those are just about to be posted as our base that’s coming up. So those are the major changes, we just wanted to report to you plus all of any if there’s any statutes, those are also referenced here.

Speaker 2 5:30
So quickly, when you when you look at this, and you see positions that kind of go through the color coding city positions, city positions that both have city watermark and IHA funding. Probably more so for councilmember Chris in this situation, and then a little bit for councilmember McCoy, because you weren’t here. But all of this really started unfolding is when the then Housing Authority Board approached the city council regarding situations but what was really happening is financially the Housing Authority was really in dire straits. And, you know, when we talked about the structure and why you did it, you know, or while it’s a route 425 450,000. And it was a little bit different, because it depended on the year was actually going into two positions. And what I say here, because there were some years that they gave bonuses to the executive director, that combined with the chief financial officer was was somewhere in that 404 50,000 range. And when He then looked at what was happening on the operational side, in terms of compensation for property managers maintenance, they were really struggling to fill positions. So what we did is part of the arrangement, and this is where you vote on the IGA between the housing authority, and the city is the city that assume various components of that process for an economy of scale. So today, the city, the lhhs, pain city agreement

Unknown Speaker 7:17
for accounting

Speaker 2 7:18
and the Blue Hill, it could end

Speaker 4 7:23
up being probably about $100,000, for all of the accounting staff and all

Speaker 2 7:29
the direct staff just like Molly myself, and

Speaker 1 7:35
it’s about it’s a little over 100,200 25,000.

Speaker 2 7:39
So what we were able to do is take executive expenses that was really in the neighborhood of 400,000. Compare that now to 100,000, which then allowed for 300,000, and then be used operationally, which then directly pays for on the financial side. When we took over, they basically only had a chief financial officer and really didn’t have the separation of duties and accounting side, which is why they were failing many of the audits. So now what we’re able to do is hire three accounting positions that deal directly with just the lhsaa component. We were then able to incrementally find an IT position that was that assist with overall we get the entire city ID department can help but they found some of that. And then we also get all of the services in the dark orange, which is human resources, IT risk management purchasing, which they help us through a lot of issues. So the economy scale is significant because we actually have more robust services that we’re able to apply from the administrative services side, in exchange with accidentally skewed state funding from the housing authority, really adjust compensation for property managers, and our maintenance staff, which is actually helped with the applicant pool that we’re bringing in. And then has been engaged in other projects Council City Council gave me the goal of hiring an assistant director to kind of help manage some of this, we needed it because we weren’t able to spend all of our time associated with what we were doing. And some of the big picture which is where we hired Warren in what we didn’t talk about is we were able to repurpose the resource specialist position. And all of this change because originally the resource specialists can only work at the Swedes in a large part style. And the moves that we make the resource specialist actually can now work across the portfolio volunteer program. So what you’re seeing is significantly more resources being brought in they’re definitely operations without. This gives you a sense of where we all said I work, CLI audits, guidelines and so really mean but for a connection to see these resources are the housing authority.

Speaker 3 10:10
This is really what it takes to get what it needs. And we even need more to grow.

Speaker 1 10:19
To let the record show that Mr. Yarborough is here,

Unknown Speaker 10:23
are you here? I’m here, okay.

Speaker 5 10:30
So as we see it here, we don’t have any city consulting as

Speaker 2 10:36
a consulting services, human resources, information technology. Okay.

Speaker 5 10:40
I’m sorry. I just didn’t seem to call it right on. Yeah. Facilities. Just all right.

Speaker 3 10:47
It does not say that very much. So let’s change that color.

Unknown Speaker 10:52
Doesn’t look like it’s the same color. Yeah.

Speaker 5 10:56
And then then when you have the two, the two sheet the CLL is helped me with it. Okay, gotcha. I’m sorry. I’m trying to

Unknown Speaker 11:09
it’s a lot to think about this year well

Speaker 5 11:26
this is seen Erica is going on. This person’s name is so huge. I mean, I’m just impressed. i It’s a Mel’s it’s really lays out? Well, it’s clear for people to see. And it is it shows how we use our resources from everything unclear. We hear from Christine, you Chieko you know, marsh and how she’s wrapped into it. And seeing the end. And Zack, it’s just kind of impressive to see the different areas of long months, you know, upper management in services, how the time the distances? Interesting.

Speaker 2 12:15
Yeah, if you really mean, if we built you the operational diagram, it would be somewhat chaotic. Because when you look at the Center of Excellence model that we use, everything’s just crossing the gentleman in the sense that this is more of a spiritual, operationally how we work is. It’s really a team dynamic. And so at any point, lines are crossing in terms of getting the work done. And what we tried to do the same way. Because we’re more bulldozers that we need to be really rely on the staff to work across and with each other. That improves the broader team dynamic. Molly talks about HCI. Before I turn it over to Lauren introduce herself, Christy Weitzman, also came over. And so, you know, the cool thing about it is we’re hiring this position, and we’re putting him up and we’re actually for three years ago would not have been able to pull anybody from existing housing groups to now, I think people are really interested to work here. And so, to me, that’s a testament to the broader team. But more Why don’t you tell us a little bit about yourself.

Speaker 6 13:41
So I’m what Sally, I am a former board member, I was appointed to the Board of Commissioners back in 2020, before the city sort of took over le J’s management, and then continue to serve on the advisory board. I initially joined because I lived in Longmont and wanted to get more involved in housing. I worked for the county attorney’s office, apparently both supporting BCHA on their financial closings and other housing related things. That’s how it worked on the campaign. And really wanted to get more involved in housing into the community. And that sort of was the gateway to me becoming a housing developer at Boulder County Housing Authority. So two years later, I got a job as a real estate developer with Floyd County Housing Authority and worked there for two and a half years to build the spokes I did the financial closing on it and then turned around the actual building which is really cool. And this entire time and serving very closely on the board and staff and always really liked it and as they I watched le J sort of dig itself about an inferno. And I was really impressed, I was impressed from the day that Harold came into our first meeting and was like, here’s what we’re going to do. And I remember thinking, wow, I really liked that. I want to, I want to be part of that. So, you know, it wasn’t easy decision to leave doing development. But I really enjoy working here. And I really always enjoyed this team and all the work that we did. So I’m excited to be here and very passionate about housing. I myself am the recipient of affordable housing. My first home purchase was a city of permanently affordable condo. And I really think that that’s what allowed me to be able to set up and own a home here in Longmont. And then now, Lewisville, buy, you know, housing, housing is probably the most important thing that you can have in terms of health and stability. So public life, just really happy to hear Do you guys have any questions?

Unknown Speaker 16:09
Any more questions.

Speaker 1 16:17
And this is just for that. Okay, so we’re going to go ahead and move on to be the resolution for LA J 20 2406, approving the adoption and implementation of our voucher program, administrative plan with anyone. So

Speaker 7 16:37
that’s me. So we did this every year, we update our policies and procedures. And we also update any federal guidelines that have changed in this plan in this a lot of changes. And they’re all federal changes, they came out with the housing opportunity to Modernization Act. And they implemented it this year, well, last year, and we have to implement it this year. So a lot of the changes in it is just federal, some of the highlights of hotma is the way that we calculate grants, is changing the amount of medical deductions that we give to elderly and disabled. And the annual adjusted gross income, how we how we decide that. So it’s, it’s not a whole lot of changes, but it’s gonna affect some of the tenants negatively. But we’ll work through that there is two changes that that we’re suggesting, that are not because of the federal changes. One is we’ve got a minimum rent payment of $50. So if they have 00, rent or zero income, they still have to pay $50. And that has caused some issues. If somebody gets behind pretty much everything, somebody’s for $100. And so we’d like to change that from $50 to zero. They don’t have any income, they can’t, they can’t pay. So we’re suggesting that. The other suggestion is

Speaker 2 18:35
sort of clarifying some choices here says we’re a Housing Authority, because when individuals have a voucher, there with private trying to place landlords, and so we’re paying the landlords are a component wrap, which may be everything but y’all just and we have seen occasions benefit of literally over 100

Speaker 7 19:05
and our pdbs are the same or project based vouchers that are at the suites or at Fall River. They also had the $50 requirements so that we’re suggesting that that goes down. So the city of LA to be part of that payment that we make

Speaker 2 19:28
early part of that gives us the ability to go to zero, we don’t have to go to zero.

Speaker 7 19:35
We wait if they’re if they’re an income of 00, but a lot of times their income could be so low that in that they have to pay utilities that brings it down to zero, right. So paying the 56 evaluation,

Speaker 2 19:50
just have that option. The other thing that we’ve seen in terms of working with individuals is tracing added a lot of this actually, as individuals income changes, they need to report both increases in income. And they absolutely should report decreases in income because it lets us reevaluate. We’ve had situations where people have had significant life events, car accident, were all of a sudden, because of that, they then get on employment because their ex has not allowed him to work. And there’s a period every year about employment where there’s a weird lineups. And so we routinely see issues where people can go to zero, midstream, and it gives us the ability to work with,

Speaker 7 20:45
yeah, and under the outlet, we now have a hardship. If they’ve if their rent is, let’s say, $100, and they’ve got medical problems, or they’ve got some life event that that’s tourism, off kilter, and they need to they can fire file a hardship request, and then we can look at each one individually, and abate the anatomy of the rat, but lower the rent for a couple of months. And look at it on an individual basis.

Unknown Speaker 21:24
See, the lower the lower the portion that they’re required to pay, but yeah, yes, yes. So

Speaker 7 21:33
that we can lower their rent during that period of time. The other the other, excuse me.

Speaker 8 21:40
So what forms do they? I mean, do they know they can go in the office and say, Hey, I’ve had this tragic event, and I’m not able to pay my rent this month, and maybe for six months? Is there a form that what is the process, we

Speaker 7 21:53
will develop a form, we’re not going to, we had to pick a date that we started implementing hochma housing, and we picked August 1, so we will be prepared for these changes come August 1.

Speaker 8 22:09
And hopefully that will be like a part of this, it would that be a part of the system when we’re talking about before, where if they go into the system and say, you know, I’m requesting blah, blah, blah, because of this event, and then give me six months or whatever, it may do all prove it throughout the system, because I think that it’s better than going back and filling out more paperwork. And you know, it can be it can be alive.

Speaker 7 22:36
Yes, can I do that. So we would be individual, every individual, it would be looking at each individual situation.

Speaker 2 22:47
This is different. So I think you’re what you’re talking about is the cares program, and then and the grocery tax rebate, and all of those issues. Under the definition of the cares program. As long as an individual needs criteria and other programs, they are technically able to be in the care program. So that’s more on the city side of the house, where I’m working with Jim and Sandy that technically anybody that receives a voucher or lives in affordable housing property qualifies for the cares or cares program. Now, it’s a little bit different in that some take village, village, the village. Our properties they don’t. Okay, so as part of our cares program, they will get the utility reduction because there’s no utility bill, they will get the rebate that we get on grocery sales tax piece. And so I talking to Jim, the other day, we just need to download all the participants and those that live in Walmart and convert that into the care system. And that’s the first wave that we’re going to go through internally. Then I’ve also started talking to Jana County, because we do know that a lot of the county residents on hcsb offers actually live here too. And starting to transition of getting people from these programs into the city side of the care program. So yes, the answer is yes. There will be a vibration that once you go through their process.

Speaker 8 24:39
Okay, that’s that’s the main thing. That’s what I wanted to make sure I understand you still will be required some type of form if they need emergency assistance, right. Okay.

Speaker 7 24:50
How long do you think the process will take? There’s an emergency. It’s an emergency. We will it will be a high priority. I think I put in And then we will make a decision within seven days. And I’ll have it in front of me could be 10 days, but it’s it’s, I think I put in some of these, there will be we make a decision and they, they can also we’ve built in, but they can also after the initial 90 days or whatever we approve, they can ask for additional questions. There was one other thing that besides through the rent, or the rent being down to the minimum half being down to zero, we also asked for birth certificates at the time of when they come in and apply. And we’re, we want to eliminate that and HUD doesn’t require that and it’s a burden for a lot of people are certificates and opens up national origin fair housing issues. So we we’ve taken that out.

Unknown Speaker 26:05
Well, we know they alive. So that’s how they were born.

Speaker 7 26:13
Sometimes we might be did for you know, your patient or child, your child or? Yeah, but other than that, we’re not gonna reply.

Speaker 1 26:24
Was that reflected on here? No, no,

Speaker 7 26:27
that is not on here. Okay.

Unknown Speaker 26:34
So you need the action.

Unknown Speaker 26:38
And we have a motion.

Speaker 5 26:43
elegy on the dash, six second.

Speaker 1 26:47
Okay. It’s the resolution to move by Commissioner Boyd, seconded by Commissioner Markey. All in favor say aye. All those passes unanimously. Next, budget approval for the briar

Speaker 2 27:12
blade. Yeah, before Molly gets into this one, again, kind of catch everyone up to speed. What some of you may not know is this prior to the city taking over operations to the housing authority. There were a number of complaints that were brought forward, specifically related to reasonable accommodation. And so began a process of looking into the houses already, at the time. Happy February, myself, were invited by the Housing Authority Board. To come in and be part of the conversation with an and what ended up happening was that the housing authority at that time was put under a voluntary compliance agreement. And, and so really, that’s in layman’s terms, the first step that they take before they take me to the next level of receivership and other issues, which we’ve said before. And here’s two weeks later, when we’re talking to HUD, they were about to call us to do that. So as part of the voluntary compliance agreement, they set out a number of things that we needed to do of which we’ve done 89% of and the last piece is really the accessibility issues associated with the property. You all in your capacity as Housing Authority Board, and also the capacity of the city council related to the federal funding sources. And let’s see, we also use ARPA funds to correct many of the accessibility issues that were listed on voluntary compliance. This is part of the correction.

Speaker 3 29:21
So we completed the the list, we’ve been working with HUD for a year and a half to do an extremely detailed less of every APA correction. And it’s actually used fast correction. So it’s a higher standard than Ada, especially for the units and the foundries inside. We’ve been working with them for a year and a half with a third party consultants to verify everything, get it accurate, correct. And then we made corrections in that first year. And then every year we showed them what we’ve done and photo verify and all things is so detail that send the original 2019 voluntary compliance agreement HUD came out and did their initial one, which prompted them to require to do it for all properties. It was things like the water fountain at the suites was a quarter inch too high. The dumpster at Briar Wood is a half inch too high. It is so incredibly detailed. So that’s what I’ve been working on for a year and a half with HUD and our consultants. And as of next week, we will submit all of the final reports to them, following the direction we expect them to sign off, that would be the last thing but the last item is a voluntary compliance agreement. In the meantime, we’re still actually making corrections to so now we’re in year two of the corrections. So with CDBG funds, and the ARPA funds in the last year, we’ve completed I think it’s about $160,000 worth of capital improvements of properties, it was primarily concrete work, which the biggest ticket items on the list, which is really helpful, because a lot of the smaller stuff are we to do in house, but we really needed help to do those big ones. So the biggest improvement name was almost $26,000 ramp at the private apartments, which is up here behind the old LIG. Office, it’s mostly made up. Or I think Brian was at Kmart anyway $26,000 to redo this ramp because it’s a two level building and the ramp goes down below grade, and it was a big deal. Now that we have that in, we actually the we didn’t do handrails at the time, because we were doing we’ve got concrete, like half half walls. But coming in now that we’ve done that work, now we need to put handrails on top. So we have the same contractor that did the concrete work. He’s provided us quotes, you know, several quotes in accordance with policy, but he’s ready to do the work. But we cannot give him the go ahead on contracts. Because we need a bunch of approvals from this board, because it was not included in the budget. And that really is a front funding through the Lhh general fund. Because I’ve got some CD funds being released, we’ve got some swaps of funding happening. And I would come in and modify that CD GCB award to accommodate this. So it’s more of a approval, haven’t been on the general fund for a temporary period of time while we can bring that funding in and reverse. So the total for the handrails is 21,740. But at the same time, there was another newer issue identified with a landing on one of the end of the ramps and this concrete contractor could do that work for us at the same time. I have to still have to put this, this would be subject to an approval of arco funding to bring that one in. But what I would like to do for now because it’s something we have to do to you had to sign off on it. If we could wrap that in with the budget approval, and then we’ll come back with the plan for what the grant funding could be. So that one may end up being cost that we bear if I cannot get that funding. Quite sure I can Oh, it’s just not a solid sort of handrails. Yeah.

Speaker 2 33:24
Just on the city side, I just want to see where we are. And then you all have given me that direction that this is interesting for him. So we’ve got to go through this exercise that actually

Speaker 3 33:42
stops this is under contract, more concrete work $7,800. It’s a common it’s a complex area to work in. So the handrails are 21 740. And the handrails I know I have the funding for we just have to make moves and assuming this all assumes that council approve seven an action plan amendment. So there is some steps to be taken and assumptions that things would come forward. But even if those grant funds do not come forward, then we would have to take care of this somehow. And we would just work to find another grant source differently than if these ones don’t work out. And that

Speaker 1 34:24
would happen administratively. Right. So once this is approved, then how on

Unknown Speaker 34:31
earth Okay, for

Speaker 3 34:33
any changes to CDBG we have to send it through Council for an action plan amendment, okay. But that’s there’s steps to be taken there. So there are some assumptions here. Either way on a day, we’ll have to figure out how to pay for this. I have a plan in place that is subject to future council approval. And if not, we would go to a plan B in trying to figure it out as well. So the entire request this time would be $29,540 There’s

Speaker 8 35:02
a question. So you mentioned the consultant. So what exactly is the consultant, he’s a

Speaker 3 35:07
civil engineer. And he, he’s a retired civil engineer started a specific ABA consulting firm. So all he doesn’t go around to them. He works primarily the school districts doing, they do all of us same work that we do massive lists of corrections and monitoring that they’ve been completed to standard. So

Speaker 8 35:27
he was hired after we saw that we needed all of the reasonable accommodations, but not

Speaker 3 35:34
for reasonable accommodations, just physical alterations, but have required us to hire a third party inspector, it is hard to

Speaker 2 35:44
know, when you see a half inch year and a half inch year, I mean, when you when you get hit with reasonable accommodation issues, and they come in on a voluntary compliance agreement. They get they were committed, they come in. And, and that’s the piece and tamales boy UFX standards are more significant than ADA. And then part of the youth acts that I didn’t touch it on, it’s actually came in as part of fall rivers projects. Because, again, this was before we only did Fall River they needed. They

Unknown Speaker 36:26
didn’t six, six.

Speaker 2 36:30
And they were wrong. And they weren’t built correctly. So as part of some of our other projects, and we look at Chris mobile and some of the others, we also had to agree with HUD that we would have more you fast units in those other developments to offset what was missed.

Speaker 3 36:48
has been took care of Yeah. So we have corrected that. I will say, it is so clear that HUD was coming down with a heavy heavy hammer in 2019. And we’ve been working on them since and showing progress and completing deliverables for them. And in our last conversation that we were confirming exactly what it needed to go into this round of report, we said we had a more open and frank conversation and they said yes, there we can allow construction allowance of a half an inch on certain things. So they were starting to see us be responsive, and take it seriously. And they are now being more flexible and realistic and, and just having more conversations about these items rather than

Speaker 8 37:31
and so the consultant is looking at all the properties right now. Okay. Because I know how hard it is. So yeah,

Speaker 2 37:40
the good news is, is we’re now getting grace. And that was what in four years got signed. So it was signed and playing playing. We’ve been working on it for three years and it’s just literally within three years. I mean, you all been part of it. Just mind numbing details that they’ve had to work on. So they really weren’t weren’t, were 180 degrees from where we were, which is kind of for everybody for all of us that think I have

Speaker 3 38:19
that. And so we have a large list for this building since it’s building it and it hasn’t really had a major upgrade since and we have our consultants coming in every punch walk which we’re gonna give you a tour of some of the work has been done after this event during this time. We’re bringing in that consultant to verify at punch so every phase of construction that we sign off on keep saying that is good. So we will have this entire property compliant. Of course

Speaker 3 38:53
you can’t see we got some exploratory

Speaker 1 38:56
work going on. Okay, so you need us to approve so do we have a motion to approve the budget for the briar wood handrails needs to approve the budget for the Brian Hendricks says okay, so Commissioner Martin has made a motion to approve the budget for forever handrails cost and Commissioner Yarborough second. On favor say aye. Aye. Opposed. The motion passes unanimously. So now onto the Interim Executive Director. Yeah,

Speaker 2 39:35
one of the things I’ve talked about also, that we were also able to do is actually table so we actually you know, for the first time in the city’s history, we actually have a dedicated housing attorney who handles both the lhsaa legal work and handle was the housing work on the city side, and really, really liking how much we were spending with outside legal counsel, it was insane how much was running third, we still use some of that uncertainty evictions just because it’s new lots. But that was a big way. And I think just about organizations and being able to have housing. The second thing is we have some items on this. But we also really appreciate your willingness to accommodate schedules based on what we thought may have happened Tuesday night meetings. So we’re not necessarily planning to go over this. If you have questions, we’ll be happy to answer those. But really allow you to have an opportunity to observe and go through and get a tour of this facility. One of the things that we thought is this is a really good unless more if you haven’t, and you need. One of the things that we really thought about taking advantage of this opportunity with MERS is really to give you a chance to see what our recent vacation is all about, and why we do it. So as we talked about this building was built in 1990. When the Housing Authority purchased it from the product owner, and basically just financed the purchase amount, not in renovation without. And so obviously, when you walk through the building, you can definitely see the age of the building. And, you know, basic is the popcorn ceiling to you know how they do it, the plants on the ground floor, the craters that come along with that, and other things. And so this gives you a chance to kind of see condition of the building before it’s completely renovated. And we’ll get a chance to see renovated units and construction and the process that we go through and they do talk to you about the relocation process and how you’re having to move focus, hotels and other locations. So at this point, I don’t have anything else I need to cover. Lauren, you have anything. So unless there’s any questions on this, you all kind of journey started the tour because we’re also appreciative.

Speaker 1 42:13
Well hold on to Commissioner comments. We have any commissioner comments before we move to adjourn. Okay. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed.

Speaker 5 42:27
So that kindness for two people that weren’t here, we contact them. Yeah, well, I just hate to have it here and

Unknown Speaker 42:42
we can meet at an establishment afterwards.

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