Water Board – October 2022

Video Description: Water Board – October 2022 Note: The following is the output of transcribing from a video recording. Although the transcription, which was done with software, is largely accurate, in some cases it is incomplete or inaccurate due to inaudible passages or [software] transcription errors. It is posted as an aid to understanding the proceedings at the meeting, but should not be treated as an authoritative record. Read along below: Unknown Speaker 0:00 33 o’clock, so call me in the order. Roll call. Yes. Alison gold here. Tom Dester Scott hallway here. Unknown Speaker 0:12 Can you see why slavery is not here Kevin Bowden here. Jason Elkins here. Bartlett here. McIntyre is here. Councilmember Martin is not here yet. Unknown Speaker 0:25 Right. You started Unknown Speaker 0:30 provable a previous ones me any questions or comments on the previous month’s meeting? Unknown Speaker 0:38 Not sure. Unknown Speaker 0:40 I would Unknown Speaker 0:46 say I Unknown Speaker 0:52 didn’t go right here because I wasn’t here. So I can’t say I accurately collected. Unknown Speaker 0:57 Everything stops. Unknown Speaker 1:00 You got three people yesterday. Unknown Speaker 1:03 You had a motion? Unknown Speaker 1:06 You haven’t I guess you’re doing Warren report. Unknown Speaker 1:11 flow on the same rain this morning was 14 CFS Unknown Speaker 1:16 with a historic average this time for ecfs the column savoring Unknown Speaker 1:24 is rockin Turner, which is an 1864. Unknown Speaker 1:29 Man Unknown Speaker 1:32 the South Platte River is was North Sterling and will the priority date of January for Phil to Unknown Speaker 1:41 wrap prices are not marked as this fall with elevation 60 400.1 Unknown Speaker 1:49 and union reservoir is currently at 26.7 feet Unknown Speaker 1:54 or 1793 acre feet of just down approximately Unknown Speaker 2:02 St Louis in great faith and storage is at 76% Unknown Speaker 2:07 Not too bad Unknown Speaker 2:12 Is there anybody who hasn’t worn right earlier in 64 1860? Unknown Speaker 2:18 Yeah, there are a few of them Unknown Speaker 2:22 but they only have two more weeks to run direct flow water anyhow Unknown Speaker 2:32 does it usually Unknown Speaker 2:36 pretty small flow 14 CFS is like Unknown Speaker 2:40 a water Unknown Speaker 2:43 dose say I have to work in terms of often Unknown Speaker 2:47 usually it’s Unknown Speaker 2:58 rare to be the Unknown Speaker 3:01 best Unknown Speaker 3:04 usually people kind of did just drop it off Unknown Speaker 3:11 start coming back in Unknown Speaker 3:24 Okay, thanks Unknown Speaker 3:31 any revisions to the agenda or submission of documents? Unknown Speaker 3:38 All right. Unknown Speaker 3:39 Develop an activity that lifts you that there is no required. So the comments about that? Oh, no, we have Unknown Speaker 3:54 Okay. Unknown Speaker 3:56 All right. Now the general business legislative guiding water principles. Unknown Speaker 4:03 Last word were regarding existing principles. And can I assume lead us Unknown Speaker 4:10 and do that? Unknown Speaker 4:14 Every year, little nervous legislative sessions will be honest pretty quick. So every October we bring the guiding water Unknown Speaker 4:25 principles or legislative principles to waterboard. Unknown Speaker 4:31 Essentially, we send what scoreboards approve these send these up as a recommendation to council basically as our kind of our guide to review what review legislative Unknown Speaker 4:46 bills that might impact water Unknown Speaker 4:49 utilize utilizing these facility principles. So Unknown Speaker 4:53 last year, we added Unknown Speaker 4:56 very last principle Unknown Speaker 5:00 municipal water, Unknown Speaker 5:03 carrying multiple sources of rural water Unknown Speaker 5:08 encouraging state support for binding waters. Unknown Speaker 5:16 But other than that, they’re pretty, pretty similar. Unknown Speaker 5:20 In the past, staff doesn’t have any requested revisions or Unknown Speaker 5:30 whatever it goes in here, but if you have any four of these, and they go up to council and then Council approves amnesia about Unknown Speaker 5:40 dread bought on the first bullet point. Unknown Speaker 5:45 And it’s an easy one support water policies protecting our water resources. Now I think I saw in here anything that was related to fire policy. And it’s not interrelated and so much of our Unknown Speaker 6:00 grant dollars are going to work with forest policy to make sure that water quality is not impaired by forest degradation and fires and all that. So I thought instead of saying support water policy support policies that protect our water resources, Unknown Speaker 6:16 no fire policy isn’t water, but it is absolutely important. And there’s a lot of federal dollars and state dollars being directed to Unknown Speaker 6:26 work on fire sheds to keep the water coming through. So just an observation. Unknown Speaker 6:32 There’s really a lot of fire activity, a lot of fire policy activity by the legislature this year and including, I believe, a burn policy. Unknown Speaker 6:41 It’s got some momentum, Unknown Speaker 6:43 which has an effect on water as well. So that’s my my two cents is critical. But the last item that Kim pointed out, was that touch on anything that you’re interested in. Unknown Speaker 7:00 We may not hit the point you’re driving at but Unknown Speaker 7:05 maybe it does. I don’t know. Unknown Speaker 7:11 I mean, I don’t know. I don’t remember from change. But I just want to I don’t have an opinion, Roger, frankly, I mean, I just that jumped out at me because, of course, was for any policy that protects Colorado water resources that doesn’t necessarily have to be modified by water policies, because there’s policies outside of that that are helpful. And that was my take on that. But you’re correct, it probably could be subsumed in that last bullet point as well. I think even if it is, it doesn’t necessarily matter that the first bullet point also could be revised, even if even the last bullet point does include. Unknown Speaker 7:49 So, Scott, your suggestion is Unknown Speaker 7:55 we Unknown Speaker 7:58 agreed to change the Unknown Speaker 8:01 Yeah, first bullet point. Correct to remove the first reference to the word water in that bullet point. I don’t feel supremely strongly about it. It just jumped out at me because most of my water like right now is type of fire policy. And trying to direct grant dollars to fire funding are just all about water. It’s a Unknown Speaker 8:25 little broader Unknown Speaker 8:27 direction. So your comments ultimately gonna Unknown Speaker 8:32 change. Unknown Speaker 8:34 In addition, I think the fourth bullet points I would suggest that we are Unknown Speaker 8:42 here remember these Unknown Speaker 8:46 fifth bullet point Unknown Speaker 8:50 I would suggest we consider adding environmental to the list of agricultural Unknown Speaker 9:02 Why don’t we Why don’t we take the first one to start with and then we’ll just hop down here but Unknown Speaker 9:09 a motion to Unknown Speaker 9:12 I can make that a motion that we move that in the first bullet points of the proposed 2023 city of Longmont water principles Unknown Speaker 9:21 we remove the first reference to the water and otherwise they did exactly the same Unknown Speaker 9:28 or second to that Unknown Speaker 9:36 Alright, let’s go down here. Unknown Speaker 9:40 Let’s just repeat what you Unknown Speaker 9:43 I would move to add the word entitlements to the fifth bullet point. Probably the word recreation Unknown Speaker 9:58 also significant Unknown Speaker 10:00 I was second it, but I was trying to figure out if it should be environmental instead of environment. So Unknown Speaker 10:06 I was playing with it in my mind. Apologies, maybe the environment Unknown Speaker 10:14 I’m in support, of course. However, I do know that maybe it’s more specific in that in that seven bullet point where it talks about protection of aquatic and riparian areas and I don’t know exactly I mean, I suppose environmental could be broader encapsulate more things than just that and I suppose my mind wanders Unknown Speaker 10:37 to that component of the environment. When I hear the word environment think about water resources for us. Unknown Speaker 10:45 Specifically, the reason I suggested with that particular bullet point is because it involves coordination Unknown Speaker 10:59 your second section of that motion Unknown Speaker 11:05 on favor Unknown Speaker 11:10 live environmental is that Unknown Speaker 11:12 I think the environment Unknown Speaker 11:17 works with this. support appropriate coordination of using physical water use with agriculture, recreation, environmental and open space use this environment. Yeah. Unknown Speaker 11:31 Okay. Unknown Speaker 11:37 Any other suggestions? Or adjustments or revisions? Unknown Speaker 11:43 Or suggestion but I did have a question. Unknown Speaker 11:52 236 bullet point on the second page. Unknown Speaker 11:58 final sentence specifically refers to a transfer of water from the Colorado water needs of the Denver Metro area is a significant concern. Unknown Speaker 12:08 I just wanted to find out if there’s something in mind Unknown Speaker 12:16 yes, there is not a specific project in mind. Unknown Speaker 12:21 It’s generally the concept of water water going from northern Colorado, Unknown Speaker 12:27 northern Colorado Unknown Speaker 12:30 to the metro area. Unknown Speaker 12:32 You know, we we first got hit with the Thornton project. Unknown Speaker 12:37 Then Unknown Speaker 12:41 United water Unknown Speaker 12:44 actually filed on the same grand Creek they have Unknown Speaker 12:48 on the same grand Creek Unknown Speaker 12:50 full for a pipeline plan on sacred Creek highway 66 crosses, Unknown Speaker 12:57 exchanging it up. Unknown Speaker 13:02 And a lot of lot of talk over the last five to 10 years about water in the lower reaches of the same South Platte. Unknown Speaker 13:15 Moving water up up to the metro area, even as much as we’ve talked about pipeline, South a Unknown Speaker 13:26 couple of the entities have bought a couple of ditches up around Unknown Speaker 13:31 Wiggins or Unknown Speaker 13:35 downstream Creek. Unknown Speaker 13:37 And then on top of that, we have a real concern about CBT water, which is it’s not fully consumable, we have to let it go. Anybody uses it so that’s going down, and that has to stay in the ministry. So northern waters working on a lot of county procedures to make sure that it was just Unknown Speaker 14:02 just a general concern. Unknown Speaker 14:07 Yes, Unknown Speaker 14:09 Allison, sorry, I was late. Unknown Speaker 14:13 It might help to clarify this is that what these principals are going to drive is what the assistant city manager in charge of what his legislative oversight brings forward to the council to choose to endorse or write to a legislator Klaich ER or send people to testify on so it doesn’t necessarily need to be a position one way or the other. It’s just as this is of interest to long bought Unknown Speaker 14:46 my car Unknown Speaker 14:49 for about the same doesn’t carry much weight. I mean, Unknown Speaker 14:53 maybe you can help him out did it Thorton thing ever action in place, which I am surprised at Unknown Speaker 15:00 They were able to reach that far north. Unknown Speaker 15:03 A lot of battle but well, they still haven’t done the water Unknown Speaker 15:11 is it? Is it easy for Denver community to hop all over the place and grab water or Unknown Speaker 15:19 not? Unknown Speaker 15:23 Maybe not row, not really easy no. backport has been working for quite a while. And there’s Unknown Speaker 15:31 one of the biggest hurdles is whether or not while CBD water return flows and all that. Unknown Speaker 15:41 It does happen and can happen. Unknown Speaker 15:45 I think what what the original intent behind this language was a concern that might get a bill someday in the state legislature that makes it easier. Unknown Speaker 15:58 You know, who knows what could be. Unknown Speaker 16:03 Examples are Unknown Speaker 16:06 different bills that come Unknown Speaker 16:08 each year seems like we never are every now and then we have a bill that changes water law slightly Unknown Speaker 16:18 used to be not legal to Unknown Speaker 16:21 parados now it is it used to be not legal to Unknown Speaker 16:27 store water out of priority in a Unknown Speaker 16:32 pit of Hell, if you call it a fire, Unknown Speaker 16:37 fire, fire protection, fire protection, pellets, quarry pod, it’s now illegal to take it out. Unknown Speaker 16:46 So there’s always a concern that every one of these bills are really good ideas on their face. But they chip away a little bit watermark. And Unknown Speaker 17:01 you just never know what an expert will be. If if it impacts or makes it easier to Unknown Speaker 17:10 water, Unknown Speaker 17:11 you realize a little bit like the muscle taste? Unknown Speaker 17:19 If not, it was muscle. Unknown Speaker 17:26 So there’s a little concern. Unknown Speaker 17:29 Yeah, that’s, that’s what that’s about is to be vigilant about bills, what impact they might have. Unknown Speaker 17:41 For Unknown Speaker 17:43 You is drying up. Unknown Speaker 17:46 Part of the concern is the dry cultural fields. And you take that water down to Denver, they’re not needed all up here that was not there. They just transferred the water shortage from Unknown Speaker 18:01 much water you up to your Unknown Speaker 18:05 health your thought process or you’re looking to change something or just for an explanation. An explanation was always thinking about but I’ll Marsha’s comment helps to kind of fully flesh that out. I Unknown Speaker 18:20 would Unknown Speaker 18:22 say there’s a bill or project or something that implicated that particular sentence, would that individual come back before the water board before they took a position in the legislature? What would happen? Well, what happens is is that as far as this board is concerned, and the staff as well, is is Unknown Speaker 18:47 Sandy uses a tool that Unknown Speaker 18:51 shows her all the bills that are coming up in sequence. And she reads them against guidelines like these and decides whether or not to pester us for comments about it or not. So if if our guidelines appear to rule out Oh, yeah, well, we’re not interested in fire stuff, for example, then she wouldn’t send it to the water door, she wouldn’t send it to the water staff. Unknown Speaker 19:23 But so, you know, it’s a question of what you think you want to comment on? It’s been Unknown Speaker 19:32 how big of ever? Oh, yeah, you know, actually, the invasive species one got quite a bit of attention, not just from us, but from, you know, I think Fort Collins that has, you know, problem with mussels and Horsetooth or anticipates a problem with muscles and Unknown Speaker 19:51 in the legislature does pay attention to that when Unknown Speaker 19:57 organizations like us or CMS Unknown Speaker 20:00 or somebody weighs in on a particular bill then Unknown Speaker 20:06 tends to raise the profile and get people thinking about it more. Unknown Speaker 20:11 Functionally, how happens is Sandy handles everything, and then she finds void and Unknown Speaker 20:18 conflicts with something here, she will send out to establish lines of legislation. Unknown Speaker 20:27 During the legislative session, we do come back to waterboard bills, really want to look at a really want to take Unknown Speaker 20:37 position on with the exception that Unknown Speaker 20:43 what I’ll say, when we have time, you know, Unknown Speaker 20:49 in January, you have time, there’s 500 300 bills introduced and takes two or three months to get through. So you have done later in the session, you might have a week. Unknown Speaker 21:04 It’s right at the end of the session, everybody kind of jam stuff in and it’s like, Unknown Speaker 21:11 you know, if the city wants to, again, sometimes it’s hard to get it even the council, sometimes laughter. Yeah, here’s our position. And then we look at this, Unknown Speaker 21:22 this kind of waterboard direction to us to respond to a particular thing, then we send that information to council and they’ll take more or not going to choose not to work. But so not every bill good makes it back waterboarding. Unknown Speaker 21:39 And over the last couple of years, there haven’t been there’s always some water bills, but there hasn’t really been I mean, this started in 2002, during the drought, and there must have been 50 bills that year. And some of them wilder than others. So that’s when we really started looking pretty hard with legislation. Unknown Speaker 22:04 You know, with the Unknown Speaker 22:07 Colorado River concerns on Unknown Speaker 22:10 the federal level, Unknown Speaker 22:12 it could happen again, especially with Colorado’s extended drought seasons extended, there’s been a sweet summer for us, but for everybody stay. Unknown Speaker 22:25 Lucky legislature wouldn’t surprise me someday they’ll take a position on the Colorado River. We’ve all kind of danced around that. How are we really going to administer this? And you know, I would stand up and say prior appropriation, but Unknown Speaker 22:43 what else? How? Unknown Speaker 22:51 Quick, historical questions. So Unknown Speaker 22:55 you mentioned that the guiding principles kind of started, maybe 2002, or something like that, at that time was the guiding principles like, horrible, it’s long, six bullets long, and then it like it just kind of continually as things come up, and you start to say, Well, I think we need to actually kind of set in the principles or do like, Unknown Speaker 23:16 what’s here represents kind of like the initial stance, and maybe something’s got to be along the way, but for the most part, we had this kind of comprehensive. Unknown Speaker 23:26 we’ve tweaked it, but I would say, probably 90% of what’s here. Unknown Speaker 23:33 It just seems like something that could drift over time, right? Like, every, like a new bill comes up. And then you’re like, well, we don’t have anything in the principles about that. So we’re gonna read one, right? And then and then all of a sudden, it’s like 20 long and it started out with like, six. Unknown Speaker 23:48 We have they’re really they were based off our guiding principles, our water, while our master plan, waterboard actually was instrumental in developing these guiding principles 2000 to 2003. Unknown Speaker 24:07 A lot for that effort. And sort of Yeah. Unknown Speaker 24:13 It served us well. Yeah. Other comments? Unknown Speaker 24:18 I had 1/3. Unknown Speaker 24:21 On the second page, long, long water policy Unknown Speaker 24:26 for transferring historical water land being annexed to the city. Unknown Speaker 24:33 I guess my question is, I just don’t know, it talks about should be encouraged to be completed through leases. How often do we get into to leases with water? My assumption would be Unknown Speaker 24:47 is bought or not bought? That is correct. Actually, we don’t have any. Unknown Speaker 24:54 We haven’t done these. Unknown Speaker 24:56 Well, really, almost ready. Unknown Speaker 25:00 policy, Unknown Speaker 25:02 we will go Unknown Speaker 25:04 and take water off. Even if they want us to. I actually probably Unknown Speaker 25:09 more than once I’ve had somebody come up and say, you know, I’m retiring from bargain, I want to, I want to sell my water Unknown Speaker 25:18 dry up Unknown Speaker 25:20 the night by your land, Unknown Speaker 25:23 you know, blended wide open space, that’s appropriate, but it comes as a package. Unknown Speaker 25:29 But we, we, we try not to dry up any and really haven’t. I mean, Unknown Speaker 25:38 extremely small, weird circumstances and a little bit here and there. But for the most part, we don’t go out and get anymore. So either by lease, or ATMs or anything we did. That’s not how we do. Unknown Speaker 25:54 Anything else can Unknown Speaker 25:56 I have? Unknown Speaker 25:59 Thank you for your help. All right. Unknown Speaker 26:03 Let’s move on to Item nine. Unknown Speaker 26:08 And Unknown Speaker 26:12 I don’t have much of an update from last month just going over our contracts for next year with resource Central and efficiency works. Unknown Speaker 26:21 But everything’s going well. And just if you guys any questions Unknown Speaker 26:28 I would like to just say, cheaply, great grateful for what hope has done so far this year. And she’s been great about getting our program up to the next level. Unknown Speaker 26:42 I would like to say this for from direct experience. Now. That Unknown Speaker 26:47 resource central it runs out terrific program, they actually, you know, I had some I subscribed to their program to other programs, three other programs. And they follow up. You know, I asked you if you need any help. It’s it’s just terrific. Determined a great job. Unknown Speaker 27:07 We should all know that. Good to hear. Because you know, from our end, they’re so helpful and us getting our program going forward. I like to hear that. From the customer side. Yeah. Unknown Speaker 27:19 That’s good. Unknown Speaker 27:21 And then you would really like it. Yeah. Unknown Speaker 27:31 Yes, nobody has a complaint against. Unknown Speaker 27:38 Very good word. Yeah. Unknown Speaker 27:42 Okay, can you talk about winning again? Sure. There’s a little bit of data here. So I wanted to do it in the form of a PowerPoint for you. Unknown Speaker 27:53 So the work on the reservoir is continuing. Unknown Speaker 27:59 This is a shot of the centerline of the dam Unknown Speaker 28:04 with concrete plant, which is the connection between the ground and the dam itself is you can see they’re starting to get to the steep part and not on the concrete up there. But Unknown Speaker 28:19 the foundation itself is about 88% Complete, if done in Unknown Speaker 28:26 terms of having to completely prepped and ready for the plant. The plant itself is 68% done. There’s a couple of sections on the upper ends that are done they the cap portal continuous so so the poor section in the word section, but there’s a bout 2000 feet of it done. And the bulk of it is down here at the bottom of the dam. That’s critically important because Unknown Speaker 28:57 this is where of course when you start building the dam, you start at the very bottom, and it’s going to be a short section as you go up against bigger bear. So this is the critical part. If you look here, it’s a little hard to see. But you can see some of the embankment acts especially on the downstream side. We saw a little bit of that one, we’re out there on our tour, you can see a little bit some of the embankment on each side is starting up. Because the news is today they’re going to start a hydraulic asphalt placement on the day Unknown Speaker 29:31 is going to be right where that excavator is and they’ll be replaced by brolic asphalt and then there’s kind of a like the sand mix on each side, hold side rock asphalt together, and then you start building so you can see where they left it out. Unknown Speaker 29:49 There the gas was gonna go a lot faster than them so you’re trying to get a little ahead of it. So it’ll come up pretty quick and then Unknown Speaker 30:00 they’ll have a fitness challenges keeping the embankment going up on each side of those, because you want to generally want to work at them, you know, all all your zones, Unknown Speaker 30:12 this thing. So there’ll be work down here and then you know, this will start coming up and they’ll try to keep the Rockfield and everything on each side of it going up about the same. So yeah, Unknown Speaker 30:27 to be honest, I probably wouldn’t be here today, if we didn’t have that figured out some way to go and take a peek at Unknown Speaker 30:34 the start of it. But that’s okay. Unknown Speaker 30:38 The outlet tell I don’t have that picture. It’s about 2000 feet long on the outlet tunnel, it’s 24% Complete to the end of August 575 feet of it is. So Unknown Speaker 30:54 there they should be into about the Valve Chamber, which is about the centerline of the day, um, Unknown Speaker 31:01 in a few weeks, so that’s going well, then they’ll start on the uphill side and start digging until they get back into the chamber in the center. So I’ll let tunnels going on other things I wanted to probably the interesting place to be Unknown Speaker 31:19 this is the dam itself. This is an earlier picture, but it’s right here. But if you look right up here, this is the penstock that comes from flat iron River, fighting with reservoir, down 500 euros a word the power plant Unknown Speaker 31:36 right here is what’s called this pole Hill. So this is called the pole Hill tunnel, there’s a tunnel that goes through the mountain there and comes out the bottom of Pinewood reservoir. And actually, the bottom under underwater. Unknown Speaker 31:54 This is where we’ll project will tie into Unknown Speaker 32:00 water supply. And there’ll be a pipe down here to the reservoir. So it’ll be filled via pipe down to here. And then the outlet tunnel is down here, which will connect to the power plant flattens. So then Unknown Speaker 32:17 that lf it’s called the pole deal. Unknown Speaker 32:23 That is underway, and started. So you can see the reservoir on the back something down here in the Valley. This is the gate chamber, where you will control the flow of water, it’ll either come out Unknown Speaker 32:43 started, the pole Hill tunnel was immediately below that, where the water will either go on down the penstock in our way, or come this way into this gate chamber. And then there’s a pipeline that devout already started putting the pipe in down to the reservoir. But that’s the most critical part because he had to shut up shut the whole CBT system down to do this work. So they real critical to get down. Unknown Speaker 33:09 That’s the actual why will be put to be put into it as you can kind of get it scale. When you look at the x truck. That’s just one one fitting bin Ahmed was so big truck couldn’t get it up there and I had to use a dozer and the next Unknown Speaker 33:34 one big piece of steel Unknown Speaker 33:37 pipe. Good news is it’s it’s in. Unknown Speaker 33:43 That’s, Unknown Speaker 33:44 you know, they just cut that pipe that we saw on and put it in and now they’ll pour concrete all the way around into the Peruvian case it you can see it. That’s why I had to show it on the truck because it year it doesn’t look as big, although if you look at the guys are standing there. Unknown Speaker 34:01 But that was a real critical part of getting this and then they’ll they’ll just tie in from here you saw that other picture rips Unknown Speaker 34:13 out, they’ll just tie it in that far as all they need to do. And then there’s the valve is already in that Valve Chamber. So you’ll then be able to turn the CVT system back on and not have water going on down, which you don’t want for a couple years. So you have one of them. Unknown Speaker 34:32 Yeah, so the, the the water from the penstock. So the reservoir gets filled from the west side. Yeah, so this is the west side of the reservoir. Now here’s the top end of the reservoir now. Here’s the water the branch over the pen cycle though, and there’s a road now they’re all the way over to here. Unknown Speaker 34:54 And then the pipeline will come down here and come down to the to the red Unknown Speaker 35:00 as a model for here, Unknown Speaker 35:02 and Russia, and so will there be how deep into the reservoir? Does the pipeline go sits that like that? I do not know. To be real honest, I guess I thought when we were out there, and I probably overheard a conversation that was already halfway done and I didn’t catch like the whole the whole gist of it. I guess I thought that it was that they that further down the stream on the 10 sock, but they were able to that essentially, they were backfilling the water up through what was going to be the outlet. Unknown Speaker 35:36 And now I’m, or is there some aspect of something there’s one aspect cord a bill, they’ll tie in the outlet to the quarter leg pipeline and pipeline going to Carter lake. So if Unknown Speaker 35:52 chimney holes completely full, the available gravity feed? Unknown Speaker 35:57 Carter, if it’s lower, okay. Unknown Speaker 36:00 But that’s not about filling reservoir. That was, like I said, I listened to, I can’t remember. So I’ll have to have to double check. I can’t remember if that goes to the ln N in that way. Unknown Speaker 36:14 It might be. I’ll check in there. But physically, the water will come out. Perfect. Unknown Speaker 36:20 Interesting. Unknown Speaker 36:25 And then Unknown Speaker 36:27 back on just had shows to organize Unknown Speaker 36:32 this now this? Unknown Speaker 36:35 Well, I thought this was a separate file. This is just surrounding this point. Yeah. All right, almost. Unknown Speaker 36:42 Yeah, this is, this is actually a bulkhead going into. This is the first pipe out of the dark, all right, which they just basically cut as much of the pipe out, which is what we saw. Unknown Speaker 36:58 So from a construction standpoint, good news, one thing I did need to kind of give the board a heads up, we just did find this out at our last participants meeting is the estimates on construction costs. So far. So Unknown Speaker 37:16 now, this is the construction budget. Unknown Speaker 37:21 Design. Unknown Speaker 37:23 So the original contract amendments for an 85 Unknown Speaker 37:27 million Unknown Speaker 37:30 there’s already been a change order issue 26 million, and that was for construction delay. So because of the federal lawsuit, Unknown Speaker 37:41 weren’t able to get going. Unknown Speaker 37:43 Made a contractor Unknown Speaker 37:46 think of a design interest, or cost of construction went out twice. It’s so current, so that’s a change order that was approved and executed at the start of the construction. So the revised contract today is 511 million. Unknown Speaker 38:08 100 6 million originate so 20% of the project already. Unknown Speaker 38:14 Build. So that’s that I think that was that part is really good. Unknown Speaker 38:19 What Unknown Speaker 38:21 what this is a summary of where we are currently, Unknown Speaker 38:26 some of the some of the litigation delays, Unknown Speaker 38:31 essentially ended up with 22 million. Unknown Speaker 38:36 There were some Unknown Speaker 38:39 in design or additional additional drilling, you know, there was a few things that happened during the design, which is not uncommon at all, the owner requested Unknown Speaker 38:57 change orders Value Engineering, credit, Unknown Speaker 39:00 scope and existing conditions, existing conditions is primarily the Unknown Speaker 39:08 wooden the foundation, they found the foundation much more variable when they were cleaned, opening it up. So that those are some so Unknown Speaker 39:20 so less the litigation, lasers, about 3.9 million to date, Unknown Speaker 39:28 actual on the field, Unknown Speaker 39:32 change orders for Unknown Speaker 39:35 the foundation, all those kinds of things. So that’s where the 26 million that we just looked at came from. Unknown Speaker 39:44 Then Unknown Speaker 39:47 because that is a fairly big number, northern water. Unknown Speaker 39:51 We got to see where we are budget wise for the entire project Unknown Speaker 39:57 given the changes that we’ve had, so Unknown Speaker 40:00 Have Unknown Speaker 40:02 they they’re looking at Unknown Speaker 40:06 some foundation changes. Unknown Speaker 40:10 And Unknown Speaker 40:12 that’s they they’re estimated about $10 million Unknown Speaker 40:16 for all foundation issues and all Unknown Speaker 40:21 some plants quantities and basically everything to get the dam building up. Unknown Speaker 40:29 Then the second thing they found in the testing is that the rock fill embankment is a much higher density than it was estimated. So that’s going to be the other large change or about $10 million. Unknown Speaker 40:48 And then they did a comprehensive review of everything else on the project. And they feel it could be somewhere around $5 million. So that’s another 25 million. So Unknown Speaker 40:58 I guess the caution I have is that it was in the original project scoping in the original Unknown Speaker 41:06 cost estimate, Unknown Speaker 41:08 there was a contingency of $50 million Unknown Speaker 41:11 means right now are projected to be about there. Unknown Speaker 41:18 So as long as there’s no new surprises, and of course, once you have the foundation, essentially done. Unknown Speaker 41:28 That’s the most of the surprises come in construction. Unknown Speaker 41:36 Although I don’t know concrete, cement for concrete is going to get more expensive here. Real quick. Unknown Speaker 41:44 I’m a little concerned about that, but Unknown Speaker 41:50 say Unknown Speaker 41:53 that the engineering company did a bunch of future buys to control the cost. Unknown Speaker 41:59 The Yeah, for destruction, Unknown Speaker 42:03 DNA futures by on all their fuel. So their fuel is set for the life of the project, presumably, or they’re gonna get into the business. Unknown Speaker 42:16 Because they probably got a really good deal when they Yeah, but they didn’t do that for the severe. Unknown Speaker 42:23 I don’t know that. I don’t know that they did. Because the cement is a smaller part of this project. Since it’s rockville, there’s a significant about summit in Alberta tower. Unknown Speaker 42:34 5000 yards. Unknown Speaker 42:37 So that is Unknown Speaker 42:39 a little that sounds a little other things that really concerned me right now. But I guess the short story is, it looks like we’re fine. You know, we’re still within budget. And most of these costs are all future costs. So they’re not, we have plenty of cushion claim space right now in the contingency, but is projected, will come close to you utilize them in a contingency, or the time the project’s done. And as long as there’s no other big major surprises along the way. Unknown Speaker 43:12 We should still be okay. But Unknown Speaker 43:15 just wanted to be you know, upfront with all the participants and everybody that that’s kind of Unknown Speaker 43:23 where the status is right now. So try to start with Unknown Speaker 43:28 the scary part at the end. But I think we’re still on track of the projects going well. Unknown Speaker 43:36 You know, there’s a lot of guys who prefer snow. But, you know, the weather has been great for the project last fall. Really, really. Unknown Speaker 43:46 In fact, you do get into some financial issues, and we’re seeing now down the road. How Unknown Speaker 43:55 how do you how do you go about addressing those issues? All the members Unknown Speaker 44:03 are impacted? Yeah, how bigger share they’ve got it exactly. Each member they will come back and look at that costs. Unknown Speaker 44:13 You each each participant will pay for their proportionate share. And as far as chains, you talk, then the equivalent rate increases. Is that what you’re talking? I would what I would go I wouldn’t Unknown Speaker 44:31 I can’t you know, that’ll be a council decision in the future. Right now, most of our capacity. Unknown Speaker 44:39 We had originally been in product a little higher rate higher level, but we scaled back part of our participation was for local development feature group partner was for the existing system and kind of scaled back on the existing system. Unknown Speaker 44:59 You Unknown Speaker 45:00 It’s entirely possible that we take the bulk of that thing in cost and increase our cash and Unknown Speaker 45:07 I Unknown Speaker 45:09 would be surprised to see a lot of the money come from. Okay. Unknown Speaker 45:17 That’s good news. Unknown Speaker 45:19 Feature Council’s decision. Alright guys to raise the cash in lieu? Unknown Speaker 45:25 They did. Yeah, I see it. It’s nice that we did that. Oh, yeah. I see. Yes. Yeah, you’re right. Because even Unknown Speaker 45:34 we’re, we’re we’re doing what our Unknown Speaker 45:38 current Unknown Speaker 45:40 cash, Unknown Speaker 45:42 money in our in our position. Unknown Speaker 45:45 We have other expenses, we use it for my dad position around union of Unknown Speaker 45:52 Washington. So now, we have. Unknown Speaker 45:57 But we don’t have Unknown Speaker 46:00 plans right now to use it. Unknown Speaker 46:02 So there certainly wouldn’t be somebody there. Unknown Speaker 46:06 That’s what I would do would Unknown Speaker 46:10 basically good news, actually, I think so. Yeah. No, I think it’s all going well, I think it’s great to have. Unknown Speaker 46:20 Any other questions for Kim? Unknown Speaker 46:24 I have two questions. First, is the corollary to writer’s question, which is literally don’t use all that up. Is it only like, Unknown Speaker 46:33 the change order is once you commit to the change order you? That’s it out the door? Or is it like you actually just found it? And then you get back? Or like, how does that work? Yes, if perchance we don’t have that many change orders, then you it would, right now it’s in a Unknown Speaker 46:53 sort of font up at Norland water, red paint all over them. It’s in a flood of northern water. Once a month, they pull money out of everybody’s fun what a huge flood is on some of the participants went together and got pooled bonds. But it’s still just accounts and then they pulled money out as they needed at the end of the project, Unknown Speaker 47:16 then all the participants will dis there’s anything left over in each account. Technically, that would come back to each entity. So long one has an account that Unknown Speaker 47:29 we set 55 million up, there’s 41, if there’s any leftover, we get that back. If it’s just a small amount, you know, a few million Unknown Speaker 47:43 participants most likely want to put it in a reserve account for operation and maintenance of the system. That’s not uncommon at all. But if it’s very much money at all. Unknown Speaker 47:59 What’s not because they will draft Unknown Speaker 48:02 and there’s a lot of interest? Well, sort of a lot of Unknown Speaker 48:08 at the start, it’s like 1%. You know, there’s nobody interest on that big apartment. Unknown Speaker 48:15 So it’s basically another cow in our name, and that’s our money. Unknown Speaker 48:21 Either roll into all operation maintenance capital or return to Unknown Speaker 48:29 the future. Unknown Speaker 48:31 Yeah, their projection is we’re going to be pretty close. Unknown Speaker 48:36 And the second question is, the litigation delays was 22 million today and what were the when the gap settlement? Unknown Speaker 48:51 15 million is separate. That’s coming out of Unknown Speaker 48:59 future assessments for the project. Unknown Speaker 49:04 How did it get to 20? Unknown Speaker 49:08 That does the contract with the contract. Just keep them on the hook. Unknown Speaker 49:15 That yes, that was the sole Unknown Speaker 49:20 contractor when they Unknown Speaker 49:23 get a contractor on board and do get Unknown Speaker 49:27 lucky we did because some prices have a fuel valves and no other things. Unknown Speaker 49:35 Quarter $11 million contract went out the contractor had the contract. And then as the months went on, as interest in the cost of doing the project went up, then the contractor was able to document Unknown Speaker 49:50 increased costs. Unknown Speaker 49:52 And it sounds like a lot but it was a two and a half year delay for her million dollar project. So you’re talking Unknown Speaker 50:00 In two or 3% a year, so it’s just invasion is basically, yeah. Unknown Speaker 50:08 Luckily, we bought the big valves, they were manufactured. Unknown Speaker 50:16 Otherwise it would still be waiting. Unknown Speaker 50:19 And the few so that what the contractor bought the futures on the fuel Unknown Speaker 50:33 essentially was two and a half years. Unknown Speaker 50:41 Thanks Unknown Speaker 50:44 Jason. Unknown Speaker 50:45 Yeah, I got a quick update on two projects. So the celsion Crane pipeline pump station, this one we’ve been talking about where we’re gonna be diverting water out of the South St. Green creek or pipeline into a wet well, pumping into the North line. We actually made our first water delivery last week. So we were doing startup from the pump. But in order to do that, we had to deliver water to the plants. So we delivered about a million gallons of water over three days. So So first delivery in Unknown Speaker 51:16 the 18 years that Unknown Speaker 51:20 I’m doing Metro 2005 Or six Unknown Speaker 51:24 then a while so yeah, I actually made made deliveries. And so interestingly, when we’re when we’re pumping into the North line, so the North line is being fed from the north pond, so it has water and about halfway down the north north pipeline, Where then is where the pump stations at. So we actually end up doing about a 5050 split Once the water reaches Nelson Flanders. So about half the water in the north pipe, when we’re pumping, it’s going from the south pipeline, and the other half is kind of north. So it’s just kind of working as designed, run into some sort of issues here and there. But we’re hoping you know, as any project tried to do those early but so far, everything’s going really good. No major major hiccups and stuff like that so Unknown Speaker 52:11 and then the the other project I want to give you an update on was the button rock outlet repairs, we’ve had the outlet now shut down for about better part of a month. And so a couple of years ago, we Unknown Speaker 52:24 we rehabilitated the the regulating gate and the hydraulics we ripped the gate out, send it down to Denver, Adam, touch it up and make all the repairs welds and coatings and stuff. Well, the one thing we didn’t get to do during that was replace the bronze seat that the gate shuts down on and seals against. And so we’re finally at a point where we were able to actually rip out that old brown seat, put in a new one and do some field machining and everything and get it within you know, when you’re you’re trying to weld and machine something out in the middle of the field ever. I called Unknown Speaker 52:59 in the middle of mountains and you’re splitting literally splitting hairs just trying to get it down to like you know within a couple of 1000s of image flatness and everything. So it took a little bit longer than necessary. Having said that, we did a pressure test we fill the pipe up Shut the gate fill the pipe up, and it’s very very well within tolerance. So so we’re looking really good right now we’re literally waiting for the paint dry. Unknown Speaker 53:23 We put the we put a special belzona coating on it. You know it’s friction reducer and keep everything from cavitating. And from and from erosion. So it takes five days and we’ll be able to fill the pipe up and start making releases. Unknown Speaker 53:39 It’s pretty amazing to be up there and not seeing coming out of this almost surreal. What’s different Why is it so piled up here? The guys up there doing the work have gotten really good at answering the public’s questions. Yeah, we get about anywhere from 20 to 30 people a day saying the same thing. Never seen it without water. What do you do? Unknown Speaker 54:02 First I had to back away from it Unknown Speaker 54:06 wasn’t shocking, but it was shocking. Really? Well then. Then I get a few emails and stuff just saying hey, waters off what’s going on. There’s nothing happening but what they don’t see is the guys are in the inland working. And if you don’t you don’t hear a grinder or something going off. You don’t know that they’re in there and you just it just looks like nothing’s working. So I get a couple of emails. You explain it to him and everybody’s all thumbs up long has that been down? It’s been down and Unknown Speaker 54:36 we started early September and Unknown Speaker 54:40 six weeks. Yeah. Unknown Speaker 54:44 And so um, yeah, getting that getting that seemed perfectly level we’ve, we we got it in there. We did like the measurements ended up grinding out some of the welds reinstalling stuff. I mean, it’s Unknown Speaker 55:01 A couple snags, but it’s everything’s going good you know, especially considering everything’s horrible the spillway anyway. And we took some extra measures to make sure we’re not killing the fish. With that. So it’s actually Unknown Speaker 55:14 completes the Unknown Speaker 55:17 work that you want to get done. Yes, yep. And then at the same time, the state has asked us to come up there and calibrate our flow meter that we got on there. So we’re actually going to add, Unknown Speaker 55:30 we’re going to add another channel. So we’re going to put another Unknown Speaker 55:33 mag meter on there. So we’ve got, basically, instead of two sensors will double and have four. So I’m not an instrumentation, but my understanding they’ll get a more accurate reading in the state wants to start using that as their primary source for button rock releases versus the lower gauging stations. Unknown Speaker 55:56 Great. So what is what’s next? Unknown Speaker 56:01 Congratulations are in order, of course, I always want to get the caveat that what’s next for anything else that has to be done up there anytime soon? Um, you know, there’s, there’s a lot of a lot of things that need to happen up there. But as for the dam, from a dam safety perspective, no, I mean, we’re gonna, you know, keep doing our annual inspections and reports and stuff like that. And every five years, we have to do the, Unknown Speaker 56:30 you know, the outlet inspection. So what we’ve done now that we drain the pipe and go in there and speculate. And we’ll keep an eye on that obligating, or the, the upper of Mercy Gate, the one that’s currently close and holding back all the water, we’ll keep an eye on that one. That one’s probably due to be rehabilitated. But when we do that, we’re after basically drain lake. So it’s, yeah, we can and I were just talking about this, it’s like, you know, that we do we just say, alright, in five years, we’re going to do it, whether it needs it or not, or do we want to maybe do more frequent inspections of that gate and try to extend the life out of it, you know, so it’s something we have to think about because it’s going to be, it’s gonna be a lot more costly to do that. Unknown Speaker 57:16 Nothing up there until John Paul’s done, yeah, I got 1000 acre feet is full Unknown Speaker 57:24 diver inspection on us. And we thought about doing that, you know, maybe, maybe closing, you know, closing off the gates and everything, stop making releases and put a submersible down there, you know, a little, you know, submersible technology, you know, remote technology, no need to put a person down in Unknown Speaker 57:41 a Fourcade. You know, camera, a small little Sony Unknown Speaker 57:46 at the, at the service of the diverse company. Unknown Speaker 57:52 The way in which this kind of walking in and Unknown Speaker 57:58 so it’s it’s interesting in the way that the system in total operates, not just individuals, Unknown Speaker 58:08 especially that redundancy to independent water sources. Unknown Speaker 58:20 Right now, we do anywhere on Wix is nervous as heck. Unknown Speaker 58:26 It is, it isn’t a primary source. I mean, we have it in the budget, we’ve identified that orange gate repairs is in the budget. So Unknown Speaker 58:36 that happens next year, we’ll we’ll deal with that. Unknown Speaker 58:40 Right now. There’s really no cause for concern and we expected it two years ago expected it during this one, it’s Unknown Speaker 58:49 legacy issues from there. It still is kind of hanging out there. So Unknown Speaker 58:57 I think we’re pretty good with In fact, the pump station was the last Unknown Speaker 59:03 one. Unknown Speaker 59:06 We did interesting. So Unknown Speaker 59:09 as of a week ago, Jason turning that on that was kind of like the fish officially got the flood. Listen, we’re all oversampling Unknown Speaker 59:18 sorted arrays guys are still working hard. We got Unknown Speaker 59:25 public FUD Unknown Speaker 59:30 about the bond issue from stormwater. Exactly. Unknown Speaker 59:34 Anybody wants to write a letter to the editor Unknown Speaker 59:45 Okay, thanks. No problem. Unknown Speaker 59:51 10 items from the board. Unknown Speaker 59:55 Real projects listening Unknown Speaker 59:58 for news any Unknown Speaker 1:00:00 Any comments anyway, and we looked at the schedule of proposed going forward, I Unknown Speaker 1:00:07 would point out that we after our conversations last month, we added a section on bottom of that, just kind of outlining future topics, or maybe intro interested in that as, as time comes, and we have shorter business meetings, we might be able to invite some of these entities to come down, give us presentations. Unknown Speaker 1:00:31 Actually, I would enjoy. Unknown Speaker 1:00:35 So we just, if there are more top topics, you know, feel free to give us those topics anytime I want to hear about this. And Unknown Speaker 1:00:45 these are the Unknown Speaker 1:00:49 five biggest ones you’d be interested in hearing. I got a clip I just mentioned it in passing before, but I do think that given what happened in Lewisville superior in December, that there is some pre legislative work being done on the burn. Unknown Speaker 1:01:09 Burn bill. And it’s an interesting one. Because ditch companies historically need to clean their ditches, the liberal waterworks are statutorily obligated to do Unknown Speaker 1:01:22 cleaning by burning, but it’s always been the preferred method because it smells a bit cost efficient. And it’s been done for the year to Association. But more and more jurisdictions are precluded are prohibiting bring unless the summer exactly pristine conditions, and some most voting account. I mean, you go through URI and because that housing developments are so close, the ditches are burning. So the options are very limited and expensive. So I’m curious is that if the city has any take on that because you guys maintain ditches as ditch company representatives through the city. Right. And this is actually derived out of Fort Collins. That’s where there’s no idea came from. And it’s it’s Unknown Speaker 1:02:06 probably have some some legs because there are some very nervous municipalities operations alleys in town way to the foothills, and I sent over that to you guys is on your radar can or not, but that that there’s a committee coalescing and meeting. Most of the people are waiting on that. And another bill prior to the elections he was in the legislature and who’s likely to carry and who’s gonna be the chairs and all that but interesting time every two years when you have to change everything around the legislature last? Yeah, no, I’m glad you brought that up, because there is a lot of background talk about that subject. And then there’s also the potential legislation. There is a concern over the years as it has become part of the Unknown Speaker 1:02:57 legislature will help there. Unknown Speaker 1:03:00 I didn’t ever eat here, watershed center, in me the same rainforest health partnership efforts. Right now for Boulder County. That’s where that whole conversation is happening is through the same rainforest partnership efforts. And it does involve originally that was the forested areas up in the foothills, and just this year. Unknown Speaker 1:03:26 We’re saying, Well, what are we? What are we going to do down on the plains? Because that’s an area we need to be preserved. And one of the ideas coming out of that is Unknown Speaker 1:03:39 doing more concerted efforts on burning ditches. It would, there was a concern that the ditches it’s easy for the ditches to bring the fire into communities. Unknown Speaker 1:03:53 A little bit of background about that happened. It was still in Superior that it just did burn. Unknown Speaker 1:04:02 I think everybody says he’s certainly how long there were Wind and Fire. Yeah, nothing. You know, that’s a bit of help. But for normal situations, if you think that’s happened, so yeah, that’s, that will be part of that considering for sale partnership. That’s where hopefully they’re talking about doing Unknown Speaker 1:04:20 the dishes of Unknown Speaker 1:04:23 almost stop burn. Unknown Speaker 1:04:26 It’s hard for this to burn. Unknown Speaker 1:04:28 And I think that’s geographic a little bit. I think there’s some locations where jurisdictional it’s just hard to get a permit or not and clearance right, and others is still not that difficult. Even Boulder County in Illinois ditches call a sheriff’s office to say regarding sureseq Okay. Unknown Speaker 1:04:45 There’s not a prescribed plan in place. There’s no standard operating procedures. Unknown Speaker 1:04:50 So it’s been a little bit Unknown Speaker 1:04:54 there hasn’t been consistency and all that supply of it are some ditches that go through four or five different jurisdictions. You can start Unknown Speaker 1:05:00 Boulder County motor Weld County they have three, three different municipalities and along the way, each one has different circumstances and regulations. So Unknown Speaker 1:05:10 I just raise it because I don’t want my present lots of the tours to just go through town and some ditches that you guys are on are you going in town Unknown Speaker 1:05:19 say have you clean out a ditch that just runs through town it’s obviously not gonna hurt Unknown Speaker 1:05:25 anything a lot of mechanically but there’s some ways you can get in with that kind of Unknown Speaker 1:05:29 development I underside of this there’s anytime be with Unknown Speaker 1:05:33 this depends on your skill set or through Unknown Speaker 1:05:37 it do say our roman space division has. Last year they did one burning the burn part sprinkles number two. And Unknown Speaker 1:05:46 this week or next week, we’re adding a second series of burns operando sprinkles number two from 17th Avenue up to highway 66. Unknown Speaker 1:05:59 That’s berms in terrier community. So that’s Unknown Speaker 1:06:05 that’s a big effort, but it will make it much safer. Unknown Speaker 1:06:10 We have had, you know, those are real cocktail dominated areas. And cattails burned. Unknown Speaker 1:06:18 They sent a plume of like smoking so you can watch people go there. And so so that efforts they’re doing Unknown Speaker 1:06:27 so yeah, it’s it’s Unknown Speaker 1:06:29 it’s it’s one of the toughest questions. And I don’t think there’s an answer I’m just raising it because it’s gonna come up and as he got legislatively a long time, at least not on a state basis. Unknown Speaker 1:06:43 Permission granted Verbling most of the time that is on we talked to you. There are two niches that I know of in Boulder die they get there had to go through different procedures in the same in the same jurisdiction. Unknown Speaker 1:06:56 And it’s just based on who knows who, honestly, we want you guys to be doing it with the sheriff’s office for probably three years. He’s called up and said, Here’s what we’re dealing with. Okay. Other ones have to go on and talk about how they’re gonna do and limit their use. Unknown Speaker 1:07:12 I’m not making any observation I’m just going to get easier I’ll guarantee you that shouldn’t and it shouldn’t be an easy thing Unknown Speaker 1:07:24 postage companies don’t have the luxury of having excavators at their beck and call either in the capital and the operating legends unlisted companies probably preclude them from going out and getting next the way they’re Unknown Speaker 1:07:37 saying this particular Unknown Speaker 1:07:41 cost is not really Unknown Speaker 1:07:44 the term is the getting rid of the Unknown Speaker 1:07:48 materials Unknown Speaker 1:07:51 you ever really go with Unknown Speaker 1:07:55 well, and historically this company’s enabled the lease flows on the bank that’s part of what their store practices is protected Unknown Speaker 1:08:05 a lot of property owners don’t like to see a lot of woody debris sit around the bank as part of a fire source fuel source Unknown Speaker 1:08:16 it’s a fire hazard when it comes in Unknown Speaker 1:08:20 here more pounds of coach was police power perspective with their with the extent of their police power was to be able to dictate how to do things. So it’s pretty interesting these are some constitutional protections for this company operations to so I don’t know where that ends up and I don’t even I’m just like it’s I’m observing and it’s a tricky issue Unknown Speaker 1:08:42 Yeah, any other comments Unknown Speaker 1:08:45 or projects Unknown Speaker 1:08:47 I was just gonna say thank thank you for translating the Unknown Speaker 1:08:54 ambiguous discussion that we had last time we did do some real action items every appreciate Unknown Speaker 1:09:07 Yeah, this is a really interesting lesson. I can’t wait to hear presentations when the lower call whatever your issues and concerns I was wondering if that like Unknown Speaker 1:09:22 that’s Unknown Speaker 1:09:23 okay. Call issue and Unknown Speaker 1:09:27 one of the one of the staff members, Unknown Speaker 1:09:30 really good presentation on that. Unknown Speaker 1:09:34 person down here to give the presentation. Unknown Speaker 1:09:40 He’s very, very knowledgeable. Unknown Speaker 1:09:44 You just actually gave the presentation. Unknown Speaker 1:09:47 Self bought roundtable last Tuesday, so you can see it there. But it’s a good presentation. Unknown Speaker 1:09:55 fit that in. So Unknown Speaker 1:09:57 that’s the big issue. Unknown Speaker 1:09:59 Are you Unknown Speaker 1:10:00 I’m going to try and lock in dates for those topics. Unknown Speaker 1:10:05 Well, we will sum up because if you don’t get love these speakers way ahead of time, and they say no, I’m busy that day. Yeah. But we’ll kind of look at our Unknown Speaker 1:10:17 we have done months that are historically a little less. January’s usually pretty tall mark to those Unknown Speaker 1:10:26 people. Because Unknown Speaker 1:10:30 May is usually a little more Unknown Speaker 1:10:34 pixelblaze Unknown Speaker 1:10:43 I was just gonna ask about the next one board meeting. Well, actually two events there in November. So the first one that says tentative future events scheduled. Unknown Speaker 1:10:57 That’s where the Colorado Water Conservation District. Yes. Is that so? Is that that’s something that obviously, is a part of, and so that’s a kind of an annual meeting, or is that a Unknown Speaker 1:11:14 quarterly or that’s a biannual meeting, they have a full water user meeting in the spring water user meeting. There, I think really excellent, because you get Unknown Speaker 1:11:25 the presentations are informative, but getting in the breaks, actually talked and I get a chance to talk to the water resource manager from Fort Collins and Laughlin Unknown Speaker 1:11:37 sewer is that it’ll start taking place up at the ranch and learn County Fairgrounds. I 25 Unknown Speaker 1:11:47 just north of Unknown Speaker 1:11:51 Embassy Suites, I think. I don’t know if that’s the I think it’s different candidate. I can’t remember. I think they were changing the shippers. Unknown Speaker 1:12:01 If you have information about that or something, you’ll get an email. Okay. Unknown Speaker 1:12:08 Pretty quick. In fact, if you haven’t got one, I’ll send you one. Okay. And then you can register them. Yeah. The waterboard meeting for next month is during Thanksgiving, and this was gonna bring that up, just put it on everybody’s radar screen Unknown Speaker 1:12:24 is meaningful to you or not? Unknown Speaker 1:12:27 Sorry. So at the Embassy Suites, I thought for some reason I had heard otherwise, but nine till three on Tuesday. Unknown Speaker 1:12:34 At the embassy Yeah. Unknown Speaker 1:12:39 It’s actually not the fair one for episode three. Yeah, got it. Let’s get this out platform that is changing location. Yes. Okay. Unknown Speaker 1:12:52 Yeah, it would be good. I’m glad you brought that up, because Unknown Speaker 1:12:56 somebody tells us otherwise. February’s gone for Thanksgiving week. Unknown Speaker 1:13:02 But the next time I did want to talk about that, so Unknown Speaker 1:13:08 on the whiteboard applications, so we do have one, we’re now to sort of two applications. So which is good Unknown Speaker 1:13:17 for waterboard, Phil Todd’s position is your we didn’t do one last spring. So Unknown Speaker 1:13:27 the board did ask us to decide you want to interview as the board. Unknown Speaker 1:13:35 Board winning. So our plan will be on the 21st to have invited us to applicants here. We can do it beforehand. Or I think it might be nice just having listened to the board meeting and then the interview. Unknown Speaker 1:13:53 Round or run up the first cat? Unknown Speaker 1:13:58 No. Unknown Speaker 1:14:01 Yeah, but if that if I were still if I think I’m still on track with the board on how you want to do it. Unknown Speaker 1:14:12 Next month, and Unknown Speaker 1:14:14 we’re we’re getting ears on here to applicants. Unknown Speaker 1:14:17 Yes, ma’am. And then I’ll make a recommendation to council. Unknown Speaker 1:14:23 And then can you refresh my memory Marsh? I think when the council gets recommendation you still when we interview the healthcare, they will interview the the top candidate and the top two candidates let you know whatever. Unknown Speaker 1:14:40 But we don’t have to interview everybody. So you guys are essentially picking the Unknown Speaker 1:14:47 pool you only have one open seats that you could theoretically send us only one person. Unknown Speaker 1:14:52 And then we would Unknown Speaker 1:14:55 we would interview that person and and there’d be a low probability that we would reject. Unknown Speaker 1:15:00 After your choice, but it’s Unknown Speaker 1:15:03 never okay. Unknown Speaker 1:15:06 If we were in a circumstance where we needed to go into that meeting to rebuild accommodate that situation. Unknown Speaker 1:15:14 Now, I think we can bring it up here, Unknown Speaker 1:15:17 violate the interview rules Unknown Speaker 1:15:21 have to be recorded anyway. So if you are able to get everything, yeah, some of the reports are doing the wall version. So I don’t think it violates its rules, even consider the fact that the applicants may also have problems. Unknown Speaker 1:15:41 And I will need to remove myself from the meeting when you guys are interviewing applicants. Unknown Speaker 1:15:49 We haven’t talked much about this, but since it’s going to be something we’re having to deal with, as far as questions Unknown Speaker 1:15:58 are so many, many other questions for our use. And we’ll be happy to put in a set of questions together. If you have any questions you want. Why don’t you just email them to us? And we’ll include those. Or if you want us just to come up with there is a set of general questions already that we can email to you guys. Unknown Speaker 1:16:18 We can do it that way. Yeah, we do it that way. Unknown Speaker 1:16:23 You’re gonna have questions, and that way, you’ll have more. Unknown Speaker 1:16:27 All right. Unknown Speaker 1:16:29 And then the audience will be Unknown Speaker 1:16:33 will you be involved with US, Canada, I won’t be interviewing because California subordinative We haven’t either dismissed Unknown Speaker 1:16:49 will just be the board. But that will be helpful sending the questions out, and then we can revisit it for sustainability, as they said, Me and the board members. So to Stephanie’s on the recordings. Unknown Speaker 1:17:06 The whole Unknown Speaker 1:17:07 out of respect to the poor interview being interviewed 20 People area, but we’re just talking about the board. Unknown Speaker 1:17:17 Questions. And then when I would assume are you proposing that to start before our normal meeting time. So staff will come in at a certain time or we can do it before or right at the end, whichever board per first Unknown Speaker 1:17:35 can be up to 30 days? Unknown Speaker 1:17:40 Well, I would think if we did it before we could fit in the timing a little more accurately with the interview. I mean, board meetings me and whatever. That’s just my thought. Give me your comments before after any preference. Unknown Speaker 1:17:59 I can agree with what you’re saying there in terms of how to pin down. The other idea was to have the applicant kind of sit in on a board meeting that that seems Unknown Speaker 1:18:16 on the kickoff, how long to depending on what you’re talking about? Unknown Speaker 1:18:20 What are your thoughts if we start the interviews at two o’clock, and then we’re done by three o’clock and then we start to work in a regular time? Unknown Speaker 1:18:31 Yeah, we can set? Is there just two of them. We’ll set it up at two and 30. Okay, if there applies your mind to it, like 20 to 25 minutes, you know, give me 25 minutes, I got five minutes before the exam. Unknown Speaker 1:18:47 It would be awkward to be the worst thing of all time and one of them wasn’t afford to have the options. Unknown Speaker 1:18:56 Although we only made a decision anyway, we’re only recommending but yeah, we expect applicants to watch the videos and read them in there. We send those out. Unknown Speaker 1:19:07 Anyway, I think Unknown Speaker 1:19:12 so we only have two I’m delighted there’s Unknown Speaker 1:19:16 we get more than you’ll need to email us a lot to think of Joe overcomplicated. Unknown Speaker 1:19:25 24th I think I think it was last week. It was extended it. Thanks. So how, how long do you think we need to conduct the reasonable? Unknown Speaker 1:19:38 I’d say 1520 minutes I’ll just say I’m 25 and Unknown Speaker 1:19:43 remember that the council used to be five Unknown Speaker 1:19:51 a half hour. Unknown Speaker 1:19:53 So I just wonder whether that two to 3pm could accommodate more than just two people. It Unknown Speaker 1:20:00 I’d say at least it could do. And then maybe if it’s more than that We’ll then talk about Unknown Speaker 1:20:09 Yeah. Unknown Speaker 1:20:10 Let’s see how that rolls. I agree with you. Unknown Speaker 1:20:14 push comes to shove we get a third one in there Unknown Speaker 1:20:20 all right, well wait to see the information. Unknown Speaker 1:20:23 Yeah, it’s, it’s good. Yeah. Okay. Unknown Speaker 1:20:32 I don’t know what else we need Unknown Speaker 1:20:36 for Unknown Speaker 1:20:37 a pretty smooth, thank you for being so concise on your presence. Unknown Speaker 1:20:45 You do a good job, good things happen, you know. So, anyway, all right. Thank you everybody with that. Unknown Speaker 1:20:52 Motion to adjourn. Unknown Speaker 1:21:00 How’s it goin Transcribed by https://otter.ai