Water Board – June 27, 2022
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Yes, Todd Williams. Tom Dester. Scott Warwick. Roger Lange can use Nelson Tipton. Bartlett. Jason Elkins, dear. Your councilmember Martin.
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Thank you. The next item is approval of the April 18 2022. Water Board. Meeting Minutes. Any questions comments on those? If not, we need a motion for approval. The motions they’re saying? Further discussion? Seeing none all those in favor say aye.
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For the water status report. lesson we’ll add it to be more more to flow the same brain treated lines today. CFS
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year Historic averages 466 CFS
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so the peak flow at Lyons during the runoff this year occurred on June 13. And flow it was 930. So 60 is 125 years work is approximately five CFS. And right now the last couple weeks dropped pretty quickly. Causing grand Creek has Highland ditch and a number of 8000 for the priority date of November 30 1871. Call the main stem of South Platte impact with district five. Springdale ditch had been number 30,003. priority date, July 1980s. is so rough price reservoir is approximately 900 acre feet from Florida. So it’s getting pretty close. It’s anticipated probably the first or second
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week of July, the voltage
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and current of at least 175 CFS, so union reservoir is
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full release in South CFS,
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local reservoir storage is approximately 6%. And CVT system is approximately 93%. Brittany questions very important. That’s usually when does the first cycling trip?
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Okay, so we’re kind of right on average.
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So we shouldn’t be a little bit. It’s exchanged some traffic reason or the
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only other thing that I noticed in the CVT storage foam was a 40,000 acre feet and 40,000 s. So keep in mind, and there’s also a way to get scratches
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as well. Yeah, the things that are order fully this year, and enough for an order next year. Surviving.
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It’s as good as theirs was asked to leave space for the
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county more today than next year with a count within the next year if they were able to or like so. Just keep rolling
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in that way. Yeah, the most to me is the decimal sub district water providers, basically given the direction to keep pump up to two years of orders. Right now we’re running around 20,000 acre feet a year. When do you have orders. So we try to get about 40 to 45,000. You got to have 45,000 We have 40 Because they’re the Introduction Training Centers. Some water and water the Weslo agreement that gives us two years supply. Bill careful because you’re looking two years out. This year, the CVD system is really giving reasons for not not protecting this bill this year. You’re pumping and if it were to spill next year would smoke out June or maybe July so we’ll be able to utilize a big portion of that next year’s order. In the wintertime here are our water. So we basically have this years we’re already done that water will use next winter when he got water
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storage right now. So that’s good. Any other questions or comments? Thank you. Next item is Item five public to be heard and special presentations. Item six agenda revisions and submission of documents. I have seventh global activity doesn’t animate general business as cash in lieu review
Unknown Speaker 9:26
was Yeah, so just a brief memo in your packet. I’ll hit the highlights of that. March 8, City Council approved resolution or 2020 to 35. Establishing the paper cash in lieu water rates received the current $48,500. I’m on page 21. So Council recommended that the wind gap project be used as a principal project that would represent that cash flow So for the breakdown, 30,000 acre feet $30,000 per acre foot for the original windy gap aversion to public project, and then $18,500 per acre foot, the city’s current investment in looking at burning project. The Colorado River connectivity channel project may see some additional cost increases due to fuel costs. But that information won’t really be known until next quarter review. So, with that being said, there’s no additional information as suggested the project is word change in cash at this time.
Unknown Speaker 10:44
Any questions or comments? We was? Just curious, we talked last time, two times ago, but it was serious, but reaction has been decreasing?
Unknown Speaker 10:59
That’s a good question. So a lot of people that were in actively engaged in the development review process, we made a fairly extraordinary effort to let all those people know. And although they would have liked it to stay lower, they were prepared and they satisfied their deficits prior to the change. That people have been coming in since then, they’ve also heard that it was changing, they weren’t yet ready to make that change. But they’ve been preparing accordingly. So some people have been acquiring their own non historic water rights to transfer and others are just waiting to see when their project is closer towards the end of they’re ready to move dirt. So it wasn’t haven’t heard anybody that was like, shocked that we weren’t it wasn’t unexpected, but that doesn’t mean that they again,
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they had a dampening on economic activity. But frankly, the hard to discern that between that and interest prices and interest rates. Yeah, that’s
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good. Yeah. Do
Unknown Speaker 12:21
I have a couple questions? So. So the 18,500, that was a number that we’ve, we’ve seen that kind of broken down in the past, because that’s the number that was kind of consistently used over, over many years, or many quarters, at least, the 30,000 per acre foot. So that that was something that we discussed kind of couple times ago, I guess, do you have like, kind of like the calculus on that, like so? In other words, is there a spreadsheet somewhere where that number was, like, derived out? Or is that I know that in a couple of paragraphs here, it describes the pieces that went into calculus? So is there like a, like a line item, where the values essentially, that get summed up that arrive at this 30,000 that those things exist?
Unknown Speaker 13:15
I’ll let you, okay. So we have the numbers apart, all those components will be built in the 1985. But in 19 $85, it was like 6500 acre foot, so much less than this 30,000 came about Platte River Power Authority, had 160 units of a project, they they only bought a little over 100 units. So today, over the years, they’ve been selling the last year or two, they sold a number of units and on the you know, on fair market value based upon bids. And so the high bids were in the 28 to $29,000 range. So they just recently, and I don’t know if you’ve heard, I don’t think they’re closed yet. They just recently put 10 more units on the market. Their minimum was 30,000. So the minimum bid 3000. We should know, we will know I believe we’ll know by the September cash in lieu, what the actual bid what the actual bid amount sealed bid for those units are bring in information as soon as we have that. But I can’t, you know, you really can’t get a better price than sealed bids on open market Thurman are good. It’s not really quite open market because you have to be in the municipal sub district. So you’d have a little bit more of a limited The audience to sell to. But on the other hand, there are enough people in, in the northern Colorado area that either aren’t in the municipal sub district or could could petition into municipal sub districts. It’s everybody from about while kind of left hand whistle lobbying for phone calls, you know, in all the older messages. I don’t know, it wouldn’t be easy to roll the message is you got you got to get everybody in the sub district, but there are there are enough people. So that’s, that’s basically the fair market value of that. So that
Unknown Speaker 15:45
I guess that was gonna be my comment was that when you? So we’re looking at page 21. So there’s a first paragraph where it just introduces some things. Second paragraph a little bit, describe some stuff. The third paragraph is, it’s like a list of essentially, the factors that go into this to this value, right? It’s like water rights and infrastructure, etc. And it makes it seem like it’s like that inflation adjusted cost to do those things to go out and get the water rights and to go out and build the infrastructure and etc. Right. So it’s almost like that $6,500 maker inflation adjusted to fit today, right? Plus maybe some differences in cost or something associated with Senate prices. In and I guess, it could be a little clearer, I suppose that it’s actually a market value, right? It’s like it’s based on like, real? What competition for this particular resource or something, rather than actually kind of a spreadsheet that actually puts a cost on every single one of the paragraphs? And I think it can be the fourth paragraph.
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Did you remember there was a further questions?
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Related to this, but where does it stand?
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So Nico was done and received the findings of your significantly impact. My presumption is nobody will file against that. Like they did a fair to me Oh, reservoir, because that’s it. So the contract is moving forward. Unfortunately, the contractor that is doing the work didn’t get fuel when they build it, because I didn’t know how to process it and get a fuel contract. Probably just kind of a forewarning in September, you will hear there will be a fuel surcharge, most likely, you feel a little bit around the million dollar range. Other than that, we’ve not seen any real stumbling blocks in moving that project forward.
Unknown Speaker 18:38
I can maybe add a little to that. So there was a limited notice of proceed that was awarded at the last board meeting. And it was limited because we’re waiting. The NRCS is one of the big funders, and they needed to just get some final approvals before they can fully fund their portion on it. The concern was, is if you didn’t get going on the limited notice receipt and start the work, you’d miss a whole season of work. So there is a little bit of, you know, kind of work prior to the NRCS approvals being done. And so they’ll be working on immediately in terms of some of the prep work and to facilitate getting the full scope of work. That was aways from the last northern municipal school district.
Unknown Speaker 19:24
Do they have to shut down? Operations?
Unknown Speaker 19:31
No, no. My understanding is they will not have to shut it down. And then in can you correct me if I’m wrong? They’ve Well, we can pardon? Maybe timing too, I think is the river drops. You know, the pumping season is going to be over and then they’ve got a bit of work there. And then I think that their timing is such that they’ll continue to be able to I think that was kind of like a conditions on being able to move forward. As they are So I have a very big impact.
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So the good thing about the limited start, it was because I’m going to get pretty good 40,000 This year, but it shut off about a week or two ago, we didn’t have to go. Because it pumped enough we actually could
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have had this year.
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But it showed off. And so now, what had to happen was very the reservoir that you can still pump people in the reservoir. If you got enough guts, I applaud those operators, if they’re going to try to you know, they’re going to pump. Right now there’s no pumping going on, and there won’t be any pumping until next spring. So it’s really important to be out there this summer, get that work done. Because they didn’t have to drop the will have to drop their work. The first thing you do is you take the dam on the south side, and you know, rip it up, put a brand new rebuild him on the inside. So you have very poor connectivity chops. It’s my understanding, they will not be able to fill a resume, that won’t be done finished enough. fill the reservoir next year. But we’ll be able to put some water enough water into it. How I’m pretty sure to be able to Paul. It’s gonna be it’s gonna be real critical next spring, that’s the critical period. Already started this one this summer
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to excavation this year and then headed hard.
Unknown Speaker 21:51
Well, yeah, I don’t recall exactly know, the full scope of this years. But yeah, I think they wanted to get some of the initial clear and ground work done kind of the prep work in advance once NRCS once it’s off to the races. Yeah, I think they’re gonna get, as Ken was alluding to try to get him out this year, so that by next spring, they’re able to run the water pump, whatever their priority. But I mean, the good news is since essentially two years order this year
Unknown Speaker 22:25
since looking for the project, you’re always optimistic at the start of a project. But no bad. What’s what’s once that’s done, what’s that sound foundation for the relocated damage done, you
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really, you’re committed.
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So I would put it in the category of committed to get it done. This summer, working on it.
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Else Item nine items from staff first item My name is going to get for me.
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Yeah, just real quick update. Sorry, quick update on the project of the picture. These pictures are updated once a week on the app for new project to the website. But this I thought was a pretty pretty good picture really you can you’re looking down the centerline of the dam, you can see the flames going down there. That is now a good portion of that is constructed last night or it was 70% done and probably a little bit more by now. The critical part of that was once you get that and then to do some final grabbing and then have the foundation ready for the construction now you can really, really, really start to see the footprint of the dam. Now here and then the quarry is over here. This is their staging the hydraulic asphalt plant up here just above my waterline that that was kind of a neat project was a lot of the sort of the construction of that path is paid for by Larimer County because that’s going to be the parking area for the Recreation Area. Larimer county wants to dam is done enough. So you kind of see that. Then you can see right over here, the bridge over the penstock for the CVD system has already done so this will be the road will come in once the dam is done. And of course it goes on you can see it going on around here. It goes clear the backside of the road As award, so that gives you Yeah, you can see a little bit one of the road you can see a quarry. This will all be underwater, the quarries over here you can see in this picture the coffer dams
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right over here.
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But so far going well, they’ve just started actually a doubles accrue sequence where they have two groups per day to focus per day. We have a lot of people out there, a lot of work going on. And it’s, it’s really going well. And then we had talked about in the past about trying to get a tour set up, unfortunately, everybody else wants to talk to. And I had hoped to set one up for the July water board meetings or we go up right before the meeting, not make everybody come more than one day. It’s actually like third August. So I have three different options I wanted to talk with the board about the first is if you don’t mind coming, or taking two days in a month, the Monday before our next white board meeting on July 11. is open and we did set up a tour and just do a tour that day. The July 8, actually from July 10 to July 29 Is every single day as the second option is on our water board meeting date in August, August 15. The afternoons already booked up in the morning is available. So we could do we do a tour of the reservoir site first. And we wanted to we wanted to do a quick tour of the conservation gardens out there, talk a little bit about water conservation, and have lunch on their positive there. So we can do is be a little bit earlier in the morning to our lunch there. And then we’d come back here. And that way, you only have to have one today. And then the third option is your waterboard meeting on September 19. Bad Old Days open. So we could we could schedule one more mid mid part of the day to where it would take all day and then be back here for The Waterboy got kind of one really talk to the board and see what your preferences are. appreciate how much work you put in volunteering to come one, you know, once a month every month. So that’s why I didn’t want to set one out off days. And generally once you get up to about mid August, you could also do any other things as well. There’s two options when we do do it. They call it the overload tour there’s chairs for that picture was taken. That’s overlooking the valley that tore from northerns office up you it’s really the best single spot to stand. You can see the entire valley and entire project. And that’s about a two hour tour from New Orleans office out there to see the project presentation there and then that or they also have the valley tour where you’re actually going down in driving into the construction site, which means we like that but that’s about a three hour tour so it takes about an hour longer because I think they go to the oversight and take you through it so it’s a little bit longer but view so some different options there. I wanted to see what the board or your preference are if you have any preferences.
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Will or August or September we’re trying to be the best of those choices.
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July kind of jammed up. July is pretty jammed up. If you want it on the same day as waterboard twice,
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there is July 11 is available. It’s a Monday July 11th Right after the fourth of July public money July but yeah, August and September are
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you So I guess the question would be, do you guys want to if you want to do it do the same day as waterboard A and B, do the two are the three hours for? And then I don’t know if there’s feedback or cam because if you wait, my guess is October, November. So if you guys want to, is there any feedback for you guys on what you want to work?
Unknown Speaker 30:26
Against once the school year starts? Of course, I’m meeting but generally don’t have Monday mornings. So that September me with a little difficult. However, the the August sneaks in, right before the school year starts for me, but I don’t know your children.
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I think obviously, this was prepared for me, I can’t do digital identity outside.
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What do you guys want to do the availability for the three hour and the two hour,
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you know, one wouldn’t be available about it would require to put it in the morning. So take most of the
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work for me, I prefer to do that. Longer one we can actually see, especially at that time for
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hydraulic asphalt, I don’t know if they’ll be late at them. But they might even be out. I’ll find that out too. They should be getting close.
Unknown Speaker 31:29
Yeah, I prefer the longer one. Okay, we’re all the way up there last fall.
Unknown Speaker 31:36
When you get an order back to the equipment, when you’re up top and 10 all the way down and you see the old drugs and some of the holes. I think it’s cool in both pieces.
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Will audit set us up for August 15. We’ll do morning tour and up back in northern and then we’ll have lunch and tour the conservation gardens.
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we’ll meet here because we have some 15 Passenger buses Sure, you can you can just reserve one of those real easy
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Park about here early in the morning. I guess keys and
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That’s all I got. Thank you very much.
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Okay, so now we use the water resource engineering project.
Unknown Speaker 32:48
Thank you. Um, I just wanted to give you a quick update on our celsion Crane pipeline Pump Station project that was kind of been hit with some delays and stuff from trying to procure materials and everything. And it said that we’re starting to get some materials in, we’re not quite ready to make connection into the Northline. Yet, we’re still missing a couple of key pieces. But they are starting to come in the pump station should be ready to ship, July 11. It’s a few months behind schedule. But again, overall, it’s not really delaying the project because even if we would have had the pump station on time, it just would have been sitting in the pit without any connections to it. So overall, things have kind of worked out in our favor in favor with some of these delays. And so anyway, I’ll be flying out July 8 to go do one final inspection before it ships. And then it should be here on the 14th or 15th and will instantly take it off the truck and place it down onto the concrete. So we only have the crane tied up for one day. And so we’re still expected to bring the pump station online sometime in September could be early October just kind of depends on when we can shut down the North line. So we’ll have to work with Ken and Wes and the plant operators and stuff and OEM because when we shut down the North line for this project that’s left to go and make repairs up on the upper section and stuff try to try to hit everything all at once. And we’ll also have gotten rock outlet shut down in September for making those gate repairs. So it’s a little bit of coordination and stuff going on. But we’re looking at probably late September, early October to have that conversation online. But so far minimal change orders and everything like that. So minus you know, some additional parts here and there very, very little scope creep and other than the delays and stuff you know from current materials and stuff, everything’s been going great no incidences, the town actually is using our contractor as a role model for other contractors like hey, this is how you should be doing it. This is what your your your site should look like. This is proper You know, the storage of materials and maintaining the site, so it’s gonna go really good. So, but yeah, it’s just finally we’ve got a ship date and inspection data pump stations over 90,000 pounds, they waited over the weekend, it’s the largest pump station have ever done. And they don’t fully agree they don’t fully know how they’re gonna get it out the door. But they’re like, I don’t feel like that’s our problem. We’ll figure it out. But they might end up having to take down that question before they made it seem like this was like the perfect excuse for them to make some updates.
Unknown Speaker 35:45
Great. Anything else? That’s really great. Absolutely. All right, nine, see more concert conservation update.
Unknown Speaker 35:58
Set afternoon, everybody. So we are planning a master plan update in the next coming years. And we wanted to start out with a little bit of plan history. So I’m gonna give a little presentation about the history of our efficiency master. And in further meetings, we’ll dive a little bit deeper. So I just wanted to start out with going over conservation versus efficiency, we often use them interchangeably, but they don’t always mean the same thing. And so when we’re talking about conservation, we’re talking about a careful preservation and protection of something. And then efficiency is doing the most with less. And so when we think about conservation, it’s an active behavior change. So zero saving policy updates, actively changing a mindset, and efficiency we often refer to as passive conservation. So those are just fixture updates, fixing leaks, and selling drip lines, doing things that we have been doing the doing them more efficiently. So going into the history of our plan, house, Bill 9111 54, was passed in 1991. And it declared that it’s called the Colorado Water Conservation Act. And it created the water conservation office and declared that it’s a policy to enhance water use efficiency for the objective of providing water for all beneficial uses in Colorado. And it also required that all local providers who supply more than 2000 acre feet annually had to develop and adopt a water conservation plan and enacted by July 1996. So we did that, and we created our 1996. And at the time, we call it our conservation plan. And these are our guiding principles, basically prolonging the adequacy of our existing resources, being a demonstration of our commitment to responsible environmental and natural resource management, creating a public awareness campaign about the semi arid climate that we live, and ensuring the efficient use of our water systems to ensure that we are meeting our population growth needs. These are the original Conservation Plan overarching efficiency goals. And we continue to, to use these in each of our plan updates in real time, but just so you guys know, there are nine guiding goals that we continue to embed in all of our plan updates. So in 2004, the Water Conservation Act kind of went through an update, and less than creation of the guiding document from the CW CD, which requires all of the cities to go and dive a little bit deeper. So this is how we developed our guiding principles of water conservation program for our city. And basically, it’s it’s requiring profiling of existing water supplies, water demands, historical demands, and most importantly, selecting water efficiency activities and programs for our city. And this led us to develop our overarching goal for our cities program, which is to reduce our raw water demand by approximately 10% by buildouts, which would be about 3500 acre feet. Though it is assumed as 2048 or 125,000 population, our current population is just under 100,000. In 2013, we underwent a four GRANT evaluation. So we hired a consultant agency to analyze the effectiveness of our water conservation programs. Basically, they recommended that we continue but do more and do bigger. So that’s what we have continued to do is just are expanding our rebate programs in developing a more robust water waste ordinance. Which leads us to
Unknown Speaker 40:26
our most recent update in 2017, we switch to a more programmatic and strategic goal layout for our plan. And so we developed these five overarching strategies, indoor and outdoor efficiency, metering and loss prevention, education and outreach and ordinances and enforcement we offer before 2020, the city offered toilet rebates, and journaling. And then we developed partnerships with resource Central and efficiency works to do outdoor efficiency rebates. And then we continued our metering and water loss prevention through our Amr. Introduction of Amr, we’re still doing that. And then continuing education and outreach and ordinance and enforcement’s a little bit of what we’ve accomplished. So I mentioned our partnerships. And those are really our bread and butter of our water conservation program, our partnership with efficiency works, we grew in 2020. So that we don’t, the city doesn’t offer direct rebates we go through efficiency works now for all indoor water efficiency for residential, commercial and multifamily. And then we also do outdoor water efficiency rebates or smart controllers, or irrigation updates through them. Resource Central is our biggest partnership. We do irrigation audits garden in a box and a lot of training workshops with them. And then this year was our first year participating in their turf replacement program, which was wildly successful. We, we set aside a small budget kind of as a test to see if people would be very interested. And we sold out very rapidly without even doing any advertising. So we were able to fund 10 projects this year with 35 applicants. So we know that fits can be really successful and years to come. Basically, it’s just a rebate program through efficiency works at the city sponsors to date, they can get discounted their project to be discounted through a resource central resource central come and remove their chart at a discounted rate. And then if those folks have leftover money, it’s almost like a scholarship. They have leftover money, they can get garden boxes, or other types of rebates. We’re continuing our outreach. We’ve done advertising, we do a lot of our advertising outreach through our city newsletters and through the inserts that go in, in our utility bills. We’ve in the past participated in children’s water fair. And that has has not taken place recently, but we’re looking at hopefully bringing that back. Several conversions rural water irrigation projects, I mentioned our automated meter reading project that is still underway. And we’re growing that to begin notifying customers of potential leaks very soon, hopefully. And then we did a couple of friends. He was amazing and did a couple of turf replacement on a couple of city properties. And one of ours is our yard here. And so we replaced blue grass with a native meat blend. And then last but not least, we participated in the growing Water Smart workshop, which basically integrates water resources and planning and allows us to work together to develop guidelines to grow our city with water land, water lands Nexus my sense.
Unknown Speaker 44:17
So I got to go on the garden tour. Among two weekends ago I went the lions mosses pretty cool, older stuff that we couldn’t get a ticket to go to Boulder. But it seemed like it was a good opportunity to have some city presence on that tours a fundraiser for the symphony. So again, that’s their own thing they thought or whatever but almost all the gardens that you went to had an emphasis on water reduction. Yeah. And it seemed like a really good opportunity in the future potentially to reach out and do something with something that’s acidic mine is that frankly as popular their sponsor people crying regardless of online in the summertime, looking at what other people do they’re just ordered to wear that material maybe
Unknown Speaker 44:58
Yeah, that’s right. While we were revamping our native garden at the Rec Center, and we’re working on one at Rogers Grove, and at sandstone Ranch, so hopefully, soon we’ll have like some more visibility
Unknown Speaker 45:19
question on the turf replacement City’s turf replacement versus the general public? Is it same principle? So it’s different. My thought was encouraging reducing turf. In general.
Unknown Speaker 45:40
Yes. A little bit of logic. Yeah, a little bit of both. So the projects that we did, we replaced blue grass with a different type of turf grass. And so our our yard here, you can’t tell but it’s not bluegrass, but it is, it caught our water and facilities bill and half. So we’re using 50% Less water here on our graphs that you wouldn’t even know. So I feel like for moving forward this study projects, we’re going to gauge whether we’ll do turf replacements for turf, like getting away from turf, most of the residential projects are complete xeriscape. So that’s a big part of why we use resource central so that they can get access to those deer plants. So central provides guides to through gardening the box, but most folks who are doing their own yards are definitely ripping out or completely. There’s a couple of HOAs that we’ve worked with that have done like wheat grassland replacements on turf that’s not being used by like kiddos and stuff like that.
Unknown Speaker 46:55
Sorry. Go ahead. Okay. My question was going to be in regard to the HLA stuff, because it’s not necessarily individuals property and property, but driving or long distance huge margins, bluegrass. Is that an HOA decision? And if so, is? The president knows he
Unknown Speaker 47:19
is? Yeah, yes, I tried to attend this on the HOA meetings, though. Let me calm, we go to the neighborhood group leaders Association, which is like register HOAs. And then they can participate in city grants that the city will provide grants and northern water as well. For them to upgrade. So we work closely with a lot of HOAs through our neighborhood group leaders Association. Yeah, I think that’s one of the things that Kenyans are really excited about moving forward is the opportunity to do a connector for placements and and letting it be known that you don’t have to not have grass that you can cut your water in half, or maybe even less. I was working with the folks at Northern Water, they’re like, there’s more that we can cut back on here on our yard where it would still be healthy yard. But like we’re not outside playing kickball on it and stuff like that, like it’s just grass. So there’s a big opportunity that we’re dealing with? I hope that answer your question. So I don’t know the answer. Oh,
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well, I just I was born get my ancient way. Yeah.
Unknown Speaker 48:32
So kind of question on your growing water smart. So you’ve been, you know, it’s kind of in my mind at the planning department working, you know, how do you have new land use code that maybe a little bit more attune to water use me has that been working well, and I just look at like the strip’s got a little strips of grass that is impossible to irrigate? And I mean, I’m just wondering, have you seen there have been code changes within lawn lawn or that sort of thing that would allow and move away from that, so that we’re not, you know, 10 years from now, the same numbers. Need to get rid of those areas? Deal with them?
Unknown Speaker 49:10
Yeah, absolutely. That’s great question, when so the city attended groundwater smart in 2020. And since then, we’ve had a lot of staff turnover. So we’ve actually applied to attend this year’s workshop again. Because of that, I think, will and 2020 was also virtual, so this year, will hopefully be in person and just kind of building those relationships. I think it really got the ball rolling, but I think there’s a lot of room to grow in that area. And like I mentioned, we’re really excited about arterial roadways, right of ways and city properties that we don’t manage. Transitioning to zero state. That’s something that’s really important to me. So I think there’s definitely room to grow. And we know how it goes with staff turnover and that you know, somebody leaves, the ball gets dropped. And then we have no idea that the balls are dropped till like seven months later. So we’re really hoping that we get accepted into the program again this year. And that we can get some folks who are plenty at the city for a long time, so that we can get like a really solid base, lay down so that we can do those code upgrades. And you can do our design standard upgrades, which is one of the things that we started working on in 2020. There has not been good
Unknown Speaker 50:46
standing as a tremendous honor to tear out turf. And the challenge is that there’s a lot of fondness for it. But if you look at the cost of watering turf that nobody wants, versus cost of getting out and playing in Zurich, products, and so forth, there’s got to be some balance. And I haven’t seen I want to be more leader in that. And I know that that small charter placement project was very minimal on the scope and scale. But that seems to be where the sweet spot is using the sheer water use. Yeah, and there’s a lot we did a project in Old Town and people rely every day to talk to us. And it’s crazy how many people really enthusiastic about yes, there are some barriers, for sure. And the costs are really stored.
Unknown Speaker 51:36
Right. And really, you guys are nailing up on the head where we’re planning to go, we really want this next update to be have more aggressive goals have more accountability, and kind of holding ourselves as a city to a higher standard of like, we need to get this last road like we need to be models, which is been embedded in our plans since 1996 being a model for the rest of the city. And so that’s going to be the direction that we hope to go.
Unknown Speaker 52:11
In terms of aggressive goals, one model that I’ve heard about is a separate year for indoor use versus outdoor use. And I don’t know how feasible that is to retrofit. But certainly pushing people in the right direction.
Unknown Speaker 52:29
Yeah, that is a big barrier that we face, especially when working on these AMR projects right now and figuring out who actually has leak. And that is a huge barrier is that these multifamily units or the commercial units have just a group meter or master meter. So we have no idea how much really water is going on there grass or their outdoor areas.
Unknown Speaker 52:56
And also to be able to distinguish between the two to sacrifice. market based perspective, doubled price. People make it economically sensible for you to
Unknown Speaker 53:16
actually take this constant news cycle for situations however, it people it’s really in people’s mind now. There’s more intentionality with regards to decreasing copper waters and I’ve ever seen 25 years of living in Boulder County, it’s pretty impressive. Now it’s how do we make it more accessible for people that don’t have the means to do that? As giving companies making good for them and not saying that they shouldn’t. But they’re those guys are nine to 12 months out of the project. Because that’s what we’re looking forward on it. So the jury out. Thank you.
Unknown Speaker 54:03
Thank you all my last slide is just mentioning. If you guys can keep this on your back on your back burner could use drive somewhere and see something exciting, like let us know, because we’re going to be coming back in the next couple of months asking for feedback, giving you our ideas and asking for feedback and reviews. So thank you for your comments. That is exactly where we’re planning to go. So. Any other questions or comments? Thank you very much for your presentation. All right. Oh, and I have these handouts. They’re just little one pager as of what our current plan is that we don’t have to read the whole way. Yes.
Unknown Speaker 54:57
Okay, so 09 10 which is items from the board, we have a list of the major project projects and items that we scheduled for future board meetings. Any questions, comments on that list?
Unknown Speaker 55:21
And Malema is information items and waterboard correspondence. All of this in fact, that was the floorboard applications in drought management. And the five year lease with Eastery Creek Valley water districts. Anything other than done. Alright, so we’re under 12 items gonna be scheduled for future board meetings. So cashflow blue, they’ll be revisited in September. And As Ken mentioned, you’ll have a simply the new market value winning units. And then be is discussed the future waterboard agendas anything at once discussed.
Unknown Speaker 56:14
It’s a high premature, but given the direction, or the directive for the western states to figure out how to reduce a whole bunch of a water use relatively quickly or let the federal government just injurious with a trickle down will be at the city level. I mean, obviously, there’s regional elements, which stay elements and then there’s huge. And I don’t think we’re ready to have the biggest picture or conversation or topic today. And a lot of that is great. Your company is
Unknown Speaker 56:49
great. Bring with written information. Yeah.
Unknown Speaker 56:59
Conversations are interesting. I have kind of an unrelated question. Water Treatment Plant. And is there a budget issue with moving forward with what we’re planning to do? Or? Or what is it sounds like it’s a cost overrun scenario.
Unknown Speaker 57:23
There is concern if we were to bid it out today with the significant costs in excess of what was rejected. We received a an updated most probable cost estimate is very firm for the destruction of the planet well in excess of what we’ve been looking at over the last three to four years, as a result, city decided to not be allowed to project wait and see what the construction looks like. Three to six months from now.
Unknown Speaker 58:13
The only downside to pushing the
Unknown Speaker 58:18
cost of you ask for operationally so I mean, a big issue. It’s not a real big issue because we have the windows large funeral plan on standby. We have usable but either yours could be used. Oh yeah. It would take some effort to get it up and running but it’s a viable plan. So we would get it up and running. We’ve also done a couple of interconnects with local water providers so emergency who have some excess capacity So mostly we just will have to crank up the gas which we opened up but it’s an option Yeah. Okay. And we haven’t seen the last three or four or five years we really have that increase in peak production
Unknown Speaker 59:21
how much more capacity do we have the existing plant like word we did ramp that up another 10%
Unknown Speaker 59:33
You know we were it was originally read it was built in ranges 30 MGD. That’s about all the maximum out right now. Terror the exact numbers either 10 or 15 MGD was reread. Push more lavender plates in this watching things we rated God run for a year or so. Yes in excess capacity and then the weakest by this 15th of June we did have a pretty significant increase. It’s just incredible
Unknown Speaker 1:00:22
Alright, that’s it. I think we’re done with the meetings. Record
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