Housing and Human Services Advisory Board meeting – June 9, 2022
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the absence of a quorum, I don’t think we can call it order. Right. That’s a good point. So but we still do want to hear the affordable housing and CDBG funding presentation. So for those of you who just joined us, we’re one short of a quorum on the board members so we’ll hear the presentations and that’s it.
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A quorum shall consist of majority and not including vacancies. Yes. So it’s still five in you know, eight majorities the five. It doesn’t say anything about can we call a meeting?
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Everybody hear me? Okay. On the screen. Zoom more. Thumbs up. Perfect. love everybody. Thank you so much for having me here tonight. My name is Carolyn deeply. And I’m the executive director of entrepreneurship for all E for all for short. And if that goes in Spanish, we are a nonprofit organization that is working towards driving economic development through inclusive entrepreneurship. And so there’s two kind of main areas of need that we focus on in the local community. The first big area is the lack of support for small businesses. Although small businesses creates more than 60% of new local jobs, and more than 16, around $68 of every $100 spent in a local economy. It with local businesses stays within the local economy. And small businesses are being made a huge driver for generational wealth building. Despite all of that, there is definitely a lack of support in the market for these small businesses. There’s tons of accelerator programs for technology startups, we have TechStars, Boulder and all the really kind of high growth, investor exit mindset. But when it comes down to brick and mortar, grassroots Main Street type of businesses, there is a gap there. And so we aim to really can fill that gap. And then the second piece that we really focus on is the under representation of diverse small business owners. And so although 50% of our population is women, only 30% of small business owners are women. And there’s many, many more steps on my thing here. And so yeah, just for in terms of 40% of the population is, is bipoc. And but only 20% of small business owners are right. And so really addressing, trying to break down barriers for for diverse populations to really drive business ownership amongst the entire community, the entrepreneurship for everyone. And so those are two by how our model is designed. And so the way that we do that the way that we break down these barriers is there are a couple of different programs. The core of our program is a one year accelerator program that is free for entrepreneurs, and where they go through a three month intensive business training course. And this course is currently virtual. It was in person and then in COVID, we switched to virtual and since then we’ve maintained virtual, just because we’ve had a lot of feedback from the entrepreneurs that it’s more convenience, and they’re able to really to attend more and in the setting and so so there’s a three month business course and then they’re also each entrepreneurs matched with a team of three mentors from the community. And so it’s one way to provide that mentorship, that guidance, accountability for new small business owners, but also building that social capital building networks for people to really be able to. Yeah, make it make it in in the local in the local business scene. And so and then at the end of those three business of the end of those three months, the entrepreneurs give a presentation they pitch to a panel of judges also volunteers in the community where they have an opportunity to win prize money. We we award $20,000 in direct cash assistance per cohort And that’s for a cohort of 15 entrepreneurs. And so between breaking down free access to education, mentorship, and then of course, that access to capital, and we’re really trying to build that more inclusive entrepreneurial ecosystem here in London. And so, from there, yeah, yeah. Okay, yeah. So just so where we are today, so we launched them online in 20, at the end of 2019. And since then we’ve had 55. Okay. Yeah. About that, okay. Yeah, we’re on
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These are all pictures of local foreigners who have gone through our programs. And we have a small business directory, too, that I can share with you guys. Sayla. And so we’ve had 55 companies go through our programs of which 75% of the founders are female, female founders. 60 represent our bipoc founders, and the deep represent our immigrant businesses. We offer programs in English and in Spanish, we launched our Spanish program in 2021, with the acknowledgement of Longmont population being 25%, Hispanic and so since then, we’ve actually been our most recent random selection we’ve had, we have more demand on the Spanish side than than ever before. So we’re really excited about that. And of those 55 startups, 80% of them are still active and running, which is, which is higher, much higher than the average accelerator program. If you look at the you know, more of the tech side tech startups, it’s a much lower success rate. And then in terms of local jobs, of course, job creation is also at the at our core of grading these new companies. And so, to date, we’ve had 9090 new jobs. Some of our some of our companies have are looking to, you know, are looking to scale up, but some of them are really just looking to be solo entrepreneurs are looking to hire a team of a few people. And really just, whatever what whatever product or service they’re, they’re offering to the community is solving a local need and a local problem. And so that’s really what our caucuses Okay, and then just in terms of where we are to date with our partners, and supporters, these are some of our previous donors, and also partner organizations. And so we’ve had a lot of a lot of support from, from local local organizations, and into the community development block grant to this as well. And so, as far as other schools who are, in terms of our proposal for the Block Grant, our annual state budget is $400,000 per year 55% of that goes to our personnel, we have a four person bilingual team that is really makes all this happen. So we have a program manager for English side, and we have a program manager for Spanish side, and then a program coordinator to help with all of our marketing, communications and really outreach to to the local community. And so that is what the proposal would be helping to fund. And, yeah, that is that is really kind of the overview I just wanted, I wanted to leave enough time for questions and answers and feedback.
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So click you had a waitlist, a couple 100 votes
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of entrepreneurs. So to date, we’ve had just over 250 people apply to our programs. And then our selection process is pretty it’s very community based. And so we have, we send the applications through a review process, which we call the reading phase, where volunteers can go through and give feedback directly in our app to the entrepreneurs. And then from there we select Enter people’s interview. And then from the interviews, we also have volunteers assist us with interviews. And then from there we ask people to be in the program. So, we have, as of now we have a limit of 20 per cohort. So it’s 10 and 10, like 10 in English and 10 in Spanish. For the summer program, we just selected 11 on the Spanish and nine on that English.
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So is that a volume of 20 people a year?
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It’s 40 total. We run this twice per year, four times. English and Spanish are simultaneous. So
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in our that all Lamont residents are they will the county or what’s your geography? Yeah,
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great question. So it’s at this point, it’s been just over it’s run 60% Longmont residents, and then we do serve the greater Boulder County area. And so we’ve had a few in Boulder. Few in Yeah, like, Erie left, I guess and a lot of kind of just surrounding communities.
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Do you plan on applying for funding through the housing and Human Services? realm? Sure. Well,
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Brian, oh, Stacey, jump in. We have a quorum now. We may have a quorum now. No, Brian. Well, I was part of the core
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two minutes at the end. Okay.
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So if Stacy will not Brian now. Well, Brian, now that you’re in here, if you have any questions or SACP. Any questions, just wave us down?
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I do have a couple of questions. So the these startups, these operations that were created, are they full time for the owners? Are they part time? Are they doing? Are they providing a living? Yes. So
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some of them start out as hard time. Some of them we’ve had to run in 38% of our participants when starting our program, I’ve been unemployed or underemployed. And so and then apart from that, some of them do do it as a as a part time with the intention goal of making it full time by by the end of our
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year program. And are you doing? Are you partnering on technical assistance with other organizations?
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Yes, we we’ve partnered with Sister Carmen to do our we do computer skills training workshops prior to the course. And then. And then throughout the three month course, we have our technical team and in Massachusetts, which is where you’re founded. They have other helping helping aspects throughout the program. Does that
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include business support? Yes, that comes out of Massachusetts,
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Massachusetts, but then also the mentor team helps a lot with the business support. And so they meet with their mentor team for 90 minutes per week for the first few months and then 90 minutes per month for the following nine months.
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Thank you any other questions for Caroline Carolina? So I have a question. I can put on this but so what what can you tell us about your demographics about the clients that you serve Amanda? by immigrants and women, do you track any socio economic demographics as well?
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We do. Yes. And so actually, for our latest round that we’ve selected into for the summer cohort, I just did that collected that data, roughly speaking, because so I don’t have from the full 55 today, but I do for the for the upcoming round, it’s around it’s 74% are below the 80% of the
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median the majority of our participants really have never really received any type of formal business training.
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And a lot of them have never had a mentor figure in their lives. And so yeah, it’s a it’s a really powerful thing to witness. Having having that support systems is so important.
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And did you cover what percentage of the total budget this request? Covers?
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Yes. And so our our personnel cost is around 55%. And we have 50,000 of that committed for this year. And then so it’s, it’s 170.
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And the block grant funding would be yes, yeah. So I did the math in my notes of this to
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the to the block the blackout, and originally, we had requested 50,000. And now it’s at 30,000, more or less. And so I think it was amounting to around 70% of what? Yeah,
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yeah. Okay, thank you. You just give me an example of some of the types of businesses that you love to do. Okay, can we try that?
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I can, because I just need to listen to Eric examples. I recommend, like, at least have a lot of your folks on
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interview. They do. Yeah. Eric has been. He was one of our final presentation, judges, and in our last round, and has since had a lot of them on. Oh, it’s sorry. So it is here. And so one of our partners, our recent partners, is Comcast become a guest Foundation, invest in digital equity programs. And so part of that is they’ve donated airtime to feature some of our entrepreneurs and they just found this in the the times the long run times. Collaborative. Who is it? Has anyone been there? No. It’s so beautifully got talking about it, but they have a shared kitchen space. So a lot of entrepreneurs have been working there.
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So this is cool. Oh, sorry. I’m trying to find my examples. Well, I’ll just tell you just got it name is Tanya lipsmacking things didn’t have the flare where I was like whoa, is the ability to build a business profits. They really give you a map. If you decide to start your own business, head over to e4. org and you’re on your way to a fresh start.
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So segue into types of businesses. There’s a lot of food, like restaurant concepts and catering concepts, and whatnot, food trucks as well. And then a lot of local service businesses. So we’ve had selected barbers on Main Street has gone through our program and so has maker general on Main Streets and Yeah, yeah, lots of we have a couple of di consulting companies that have come out of our programs and a, our washing service and really kind of across the board of all types of small businesses. No, no one
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is there any time or financial commitment that is entrepreneurs make to enter the program?
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Thinking that that well, the only thing that we do ask us is that they are committed to the classes and their mentor meetings. And so, which for the first three months is about at least eight hours a week? So it’s a heavy it’s a heavy time commitment, but it is. Yeah. In terms of we don’t take equity or ask for any type of fees to enter the program. Okay, all right. Thank you so much. Also, I just have to do this. While we’re here. We are looking for mentors for summer programs, so if anyone would like to join just some cards. Shameless, Shameless volunteer pitch. But thank you guys so much for like, great to be here.
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guess a Stacy has questions. You can just wait. Eric. Unmute her do that whole.
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Robin to do some talking. Rotating folks are here. So you did a great job of not reading your notes. However. Hello, all I’m Rebecca Shannon with St. Green Habitat for Humanity. Got our executive director David Emerson and global resource drift are resourceful. So thank you for this opportunity. And thank you for taking the time to get let them work through a smooth way for us. So we’re going to take this opportunity to discuss a plan development on East Rogers road and funding needs related to that project. So thank you, everybody who’s here in the room, and the votes are online. So, Habitat for Humanity. We are a local nonprofit providing access to homeownership. We partner with families and individuals who are stable enough for homeownership, but can’t access traditional financing. Our service area includes the st. Green Valley School District, and the town of Estes Park. And the 34 years that we’ve been partnering with the community, we’ve built 115 new homes. Of those 96 have the original homeowners still living in their home, and 31 mortgages are paid off. We talked about building strength, stability and self reliance for shelter. And I think that those statistics really prove that out. We add quality housing and bring an economic benefit to the community. The assessed value of our homes is close to 40 million, and our homeowners paid more than 213,000.1 property taxes. So they’re really they are in we’re investing in them and they are investing back in US and in the community. Currently have nine homes under construction. Eight of those are in Longmont. One is in jacono. You can see the chart here that shows where some of the towns are that we’ve been building. In addition to new home construction, we’ve completed 55 critical home repairs. Most of those are through our nationally recognized neighborhood revitalization program. And the home repairs we do are for seniors, veterans and folks with disabilities so helping them population at all. As a home, helping them maintain their own. Next slide. So how does that Colorado serves all of the Habitat affiliates across the state of Colorado, they have done a survey of Habitat homeowners across the state, they did an initial survey in 2018, and a follow up in 2021. And then the 2021 survey, we have 500 responses giving us solid data to demonstrate that homeownership is truly transformational. I’m not sure that you can read all this little fine print. So I’m gonna give you the highlights 81% of homeowners report that they are somewhat or much more financially stable since moving into their habitat home. 90% of homeowners reported a positive impact on both their mental and physical health after becoming homeowners, and 98% reported improvement in their children’s academic performance. And those are just some of the highlights. I mean, there’s crosses the gamut from basically, I mean, when you talk about the kids academic performance, if the kids can stay in the same school district in the same class, if they can make friends and speed come part of the community, mom and dad are less stressed out because you better in school, we all benefit from that. And then this over here on the side, some of the industries that habitat are the top industries that Habitat homeowners who work in health care, education, office slash administrative, transportation and retail. So we like to emphasize these are folks who are already part of our community, they are living and working with us side by side with us, we want to give them an access to homeownership. So they can stay in the community instead of commuting from farther and farther away. So next one, not quite as pretty as that infographic. So I’ve told you a little bit about us a little bit about Habitat homeowners. And now we’re going to talk about the East Rogers road development. This is a joint effort between St. Green habitat and our community housing development, organization, development organization. Shodo is the abbreviation that we’re going to use a lot. This project is located on East Rogers road between South Martin and Lashley.
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It’s actually two lots, the homes will be permanently affordable to households earning 60% Ami or less, we’ve completed an environmental assessment. And we’re now ready to tackle infrastructure, which is what we’re going to ask for money for. And now John is gonna stand up and give you some more specifics about the homes themselves in the project overall.
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Thanks, Rebecca. We’ve been working for several years on designing the infrastructure, as well as the architecture of the project. So this is a rendering of what will be nine homes, nine townhomes in three buildings. Three of them, these three in the front are going to be single storey buildings, we’ll tell you more about the details of that in a minute. But they will be handicap accessible and ready to be modified as appropriate. Since they’re single floor, you don’t have to worry about stairs. That’s excellent. So dumb this is just to show you the architecture is done. But basically what we’ve got are six units that will be three and four bedroom the the middle units are four bedroom units with a bedroom on the first floor. So again, that could be modified to make it handicap accessible if necessary. They’ll have two car garages that is kind of a concession to making sure we fit in the neighborhood number one, and that we keep folks from parking on Rogers road and that sort of thing. So they will have a place for their cars, or cars. Three bedroom units, we’re looking right now to $225,000 selling price. And if you’ve been following the real estate market, a townhome doesn’t sell for that unnecessary. We provide what is essentially a 0% interest mortgage or equivalent of a 0% interest mortgage. And that’s going to be depending on the families. We keep it that way by modifying the terms of the length of the mortgage. So it’ll be roughly between 907 150 a month. You can’t get a three bedroom apartment. Hard to get one in this town Google paid that price for the four bedroom we’re looking at 237 Same kind of arrangements on this is a single floor unit we were talking about zero entry points into the house which is critical for wheelchair accessibility, everything will be designed with a wheelchair in line, bathroom doors wide enough to accommodate a wheelchair and turning radius for that hallways the same sort of thing. We will, we’d like to talk about a being adapt, relatively adaptable, because some families don’t want the lower counters and everything else that you might have in an ADA accessible type of home. But as an example, my construction guy was like to talk about is the doorways for the saints are all have a kid plates that can come out and everything else, we could pull a wheelchair right up to the st give of that. So if a family wants to do again, they’ll have garages. There’ll be in this case, this is facing the Rogers roadside. But let’s go to the next slide. This is the outline of kind of how the infrastructure and everything will work. So garages will be accessible from on the property itself, Rogers road down here. Third Avenue, there won’t be any direct access to the property per se. The infrastructure is the thing we’re really focusing on. Now we want to prepare that so that when we finish our current eight home project, we can move right to this project. That’s going to include a lot of land work to get it ready to go, this private alleyway that we’re showing here, improvements in the sidewalk, all the utilities that will have to be brought in and everything else like that.
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rough idea of calling pastures that will be given, we’re going to go through the bidding process here in July. So the wheat solid estimates to be able to move forward on next slide.
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Most of this project,
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we’re now we’ve identified our financing for coming from a variety of sources. We do sell our mortgages, we can tell you more about that if you’re interested. But it’s basically a way that we can build faster in our community, we do get a lot of in kind support from local contractors are anticipating fee waivers, there’ll be Gribben for the permanent affordability of those homes. We’ve got a commitment from the Division of Housing for $30,000 a unit. So we’re bringing money in from outside the community first. Several years back, we were awarded choto funding for this project. So that’s part of our funding stream. And then of course, our request that’s in posle is for $646,000 to get the infrastructure built when the time comes. So with that, let’s before you hop off there, we’re looking at a project that’s $2.8 million
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that we’re doing,
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which we’re looking for this 646,000 and wonderful world from CDBG. But it could be affordable housing funds, as well. So at this point, now we can go next slide. We’re open for questions that you might have. And the boss is going to answer those.
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I didn’t want to make I did some of the slides. It’s a public alleyway. So it’s a little bit more involved. And one of the reasons we don’t have final bids is we had just gone through our third technical review with the city next week, we’ll have the fourth technical review. So that’ll be finalized. And then we’ll that’s why we’re starting we only have the one bid and, and so I do anticipate that that we’re hoping to get that $702,000 down. We just won’t know until more like July how much. But we have seen quite an increase in overall material labor costs in the last two years, as you can imagine. So that’s a solid number. That’s probably a ceiling more than anything else at 646. Happy to answer any questions. Thank you.
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I have maybe a stupid question. But I’m going to embarrass myself and ask if you had mentioned mortgage sales, I guess I’m just wondering who buys a mortgage that is for practical purposes, a 0%. So
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some really good partners?
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Yeah, that’s a great question. So actually, there’s several banking partners in Champa. Colorado Housing Finance Authority will buy our mortgages purely so that we can help build more. So first, Bank is a huge statewide partner, they will five. So we originate the mortgage to the homeowner. And then we sell the mortgage at a discount. So nothing changes in terms of the payments for the homeowner, we just get a little less than the mortgage value there. So it’s a way to accelerate. But we have, we do have some incredible banking partners. First National Bank is bought mortgages. The USDA, actually outside Walmart is we do mortgages with for our homeowners and the CO owners as part. So that’s something that’s changed over the last 10 years is we used to hold on all of our mortgages. But we really have seen it as a constraint to building faster and building more homes.
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To the bank skin credit under the Community Reinvestment Act, they do.
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I have a friend who’s worked in Habitat for Humanity, and he’s a volunteer. A lot of work. And I was just wondering how many colleges are involved in building a house and how many are paid. Contractors are paid for.
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And so I would say no one’s paid volunteers that are true volunteers. We have staff, we have three sites of revisers. We have AmeriCorps, who get a stipend, it’s really it’s less than minimum wage. That helped coordinate construction, where we ended up seeing paying is in the trades, a track plumbing and electrical Foundation, things of that excavation. And that’s where that incline it might not have been clear that that’s where what we call an incline meeting, you know, so we excavating some of you may know them, they’ve done the foundation, the excavated output foundations free or next three years and years. But as far as the payment, it’s it’s mainly professional subcontractors.
Unknown Speaker 47:15
As to how many volunteers it takes, we say that it takes 2500 hours to build a home 2500 hours of volunteer labor on top of the contractors and staff. So 2500 hours during COVID takes a lot longer because there’s a few less volunteers. Pre COVID I think the shortest we ever built a house was in nine months. So things like weather slow us down things like pandemic slows down.
Unknown Speaker 47:48
I have a question, because it’s the first time I hear it coming from habitat. And so it caught my attention when I heard it. And that’s the term permanently affordable. That’s right. So you will have never had it you won’t say Brian, I’m sure other other you know, other affiliates may have. But are we talking deed restrictions?
Unknown Speaker 48:09
We are? Yeah, so that’s been something with the inclusionary housing. So there’s two answers question. One is philosophical and another is more practical and more online. When the inclusionary housing ordinance being was put into place 12% Or in our case 9% of every development has to be permanently affordable. So it practically we’re not going to look at those nine and say which of those have wanted one of those houses has to be permanently affordable. So really, we make them all permanently affordable. We do permanently affordable homeownership and lions are what the lions homes we did in Estes Park. So philosophically, our board does talk about deed restrictions. I, you know, we are candidly trying to work on whether that’s something we would want to see everywhere. But I think there’s a strong argument that given how hard and difficult it is to bring a unit to market if we can provide a permanently affordable for sale product, but and also provide a very good rate of return, then we feel we’re in the right place. So 0% interest of course, all your principal is going to equity and then even at two or 2% 220,000. That’s a lot of equity you’re building over each and every year and then we can assure the neck when a person sells those homes. That home it’s gonna go horribly to someone else. The other thing that’s nice that people maybe don’t think about is the property taxes or have a bit of a governor on them into and increases, the important, you know, assessments go way up. And that’s created a bit of a strain, you know, on some homeowners who have a paper valuation, but practically they have to pay that property tax. So it’s not all of our homes and each affiliate does things a little bit differently depending on circumstances and situation. But in Longmont with inclusionary housing, it just makes sense to, to make them all equal.
Unknown Speaker 50:36
I would add that one of the things we’re seeing recently is that also we’re seeing that restriction from the state, it’s not necessarily permanently
Unknown Speaker 50:44
affordable with a 30 year affordability.
Unknown Speaker 50:49
So it’s a relatively new phenomenon. And it was a bigger philosophical hurdle for us on our mortgage across.
Unknown Speaker 50:57
So what do you select the owners,
Unknown Speaker 51:03
so we don’t have a waiting list, we have an interest list. And so when we know, we basically project out the number of homes, we believe we’re going to be able to put in the market within a reasonable period of time, call it nine months to a year. And then we’ll select a number that assures that we will have that number of homeowners and they can be working on they’re working on their sweat equity, but it comes down to need, they have to demonstrate three things, that there’s a need that could be overcrowding, on affordable rent, not able to, you know, get traditional financing, willingness to partner so are they willing to go through the educational classes we require to prepare them for homeownership do the sweat equity, if someone is physically unable to do the sweat equity, we’ll figure out a way for them to meaningfully contribute that that’s not ever going to be a barrier for someone to physically can’t be on site, and then Ability to Repay on affordable mortgage. So you saw kind of a range there of the mortgage. The only reason that is is we we are most concerned about keeping that individuals payment at less than 30% We generally use 27% of their income is. So we might, it might lengthen the term of the mortgage a little bit for someone who’s a little bit lower income. So it’s really not it tends not to be income base. I mean, at the lowest level, someone would not be able to afford even that mortgage, but it’s generally credit will you know, and not perfect credit. But you know, are you in a position based on credit history and some of the things with your credit to maintain an important affordable mortgage and that type of thing. So those three things, permanent US residency just because, you know, we’re placing collateral credit and against collateral. And they it it has to be a primary residence for the individual. So I think those are
Unknown Speaker 53:26
more of a curiosity question, certainly not a merit question. Is there a buffer between the back of those homes and third?
Unknown Speaker 53:36
There is and that’s one of the reasons it’s taken a while to get this plan and titled is we had to work through this with city staff. What that look like so there will be a there will be offense, and they will be really act like backyards. But in the code, they they’re supposed to be front loaded, or they’re supposed to look like they’re front loading on phones are down and it’s a little confusing. I want to say it’s 15 to 20 feet, I really have a look. But there will be a nice fence on the front. And then there’s actually an access with a gate from from the other houses to go through Third Avenue. So
Unknown Speaker 54:26
Environmental Assessment did cover road noise and the noise from the train. So Oh, so that’s one of there’s a whole environmental justice section in the environmental assessment, which was yeah, it’s the first time I’ve done it was fascinating to learn about. And so based on noise levels, etc. You may have to do mitigation in the design to minimize the sound inside the home,
Unknown Speaker 54:51
which I thought was pretty cool.
Unknown Speaker 54:53
Materials generally is the way we would achieve
Unknown Speaker 55:00
It sounds like an exciting project.
Unknown Speaker 55:03
Yeah, I shouldn’t know just city with it has been huge partner there. So what happened is, John mentioned it was two lots. And so the one empty lot came available, got it under contract and the city paid for, we have an affordable housing fund loan of 130,000. On that one, the lot next to it was at the time owned by the city. And it was the old, our center had a clothing bank, drop off donations. And so the city donated that to us and raise the raise that area so we could get the nines thoughts, which is lower in density than that zone contemplates. But it or a lot else, but it’s got single family detached on either side. So we’re kind of splitting the middle between maximizing the density and having a bit of a buffer between, you know, was already there. Excellent.
Unknown Speaker 56:03
So, you know, a lot of developers are required to or all the developers are required to, you know, cut out a certain portion or percentage of the deployment for affordable housing. You know, lately we’ve been hearing they’re doing a lot of fee and lieu instead of that, right? Is there any way that habitat can can partner with some of those developments, co funding for the building of your houses and in meet their requirement with the city.
Unknown Speaker 56:29
So the way that we have we really kind of behind the scenes work with a lot of developers that the most straightforward way that we’ve been able to work with developers is just a simple carve out in their subdivision where they donate the land, and in some cases, the infrastructure. To pay k, the two subdivisions we’re working on now mountain Brook, where we have eight Habitat homes, and we’re actually contracted with veterans community project, we’re going to provide the site diversion and general contract dating services and project management services for those 26 tiny homes. And then Sugar Mill is 12 houses of the 100. They were dumped, they’ve donated that land. And so it’s that’s worked really well, in this case, we’ve had to lead develop all the infrastructure and the entitlement. In both those cases, we really were just a partner with those developments could see what kind of design they had. Our architects blended it nailed some minor modifications, but the not that it was affordable, but that would blend with the market rate product. And then we just knew that those locks were going to be available to us. So that’s probably the biggest way. And we’re, you know, we’re working trying to find out and developers to help there. So
Unknown Speaker 57:57
we would encourage you to encourage. Bottom line because the land is they respond the same land. It starts with the land, the land, you can’t.
Unknown Speaker 58:11
There’s two other things I mentioned. One is this affiliate has worked in 26 different neighborhoods so far, mainly our architects, but also our construction teams built the houses are very good at blending those houses. And we know we really want people to drive by and not see it as any other house, or debris out against the market greenhouse, I would say in some days that are much, much nicer. The second thing is kind of an aside, but you may have heard we got a MacKenzie Scott gift. So she gave this affiliate three and a half million dollars. We were one of 84 affiliates in the country out of 1100 that receive that gift. So we have no idea why. But we assume we’re doing decent work and there’s a need. So one of the questions is, you know, will you have that money? Why do you need affordable housing. So obviously what we’re to John’s point, we’re most concerned about the finite amount of watts that are left in Longmont. If we’re trying to get 12% We really believe land acquisition we have to get it under control. So while fee Lu is wonderful in some ways, it means that the hurt, you know, hurdle is higher if that land is now not going to be affordable around any affordability and so all I have to say is a lot of what we’re doing with that gift is really working with landowners and municipalities to find and secure other land for us and we’re also will partner with other agencies. We’re doing affordable Questions on the outside of the screen. Okay, thank you so much. Thank you. Thank you. One presentation. The short one Thank you. Thank you
Unknown Speaker 1:00:36
it’s up to you, you can listen if you want
Unknown Speaker 1:00:39
your choice Good evening, everybody. So I’m Lisa downer and the regional manager for Longmont Housing Authority. I’ve been with them for about the last year and a half. Tonight, I’m going to go through some of our requests. I get really nervous and I talk fast. Thank you. So we have currently nine properties here in Longmont that are all affordable housing for families and seniors. Part of our mission is to provide housing and related services to low and moderate income families of elite disabled households, and to relieve the community is substandard housing. So all the FHA residents, income is currently at 60% or below AMI with our target properties are 30 to 40% of AMI. Our vision is to be a leader in the provision of affordable housing and our service areas which is primarily long one who knows if we expand a little bit and lhhs CBD see the BG applications are intended to deliver on our goal to ensure properties are safe and welcoming and improve the quality of life for our residents and their families. One of our requests tonight is for security cameras. We’re asking to serve Aspen Meadows neighborhood Fall River, Spring Creek, Hearthstone and Overwatch. We currently have existing camera systems ask them that OCR permits, the suites and actually village police departments just receive some a few months ago. They’ve been proven to be critical to prevent criminal and other undesired behavior and help resolve issues when they do occur. Some of those are unauthorized guest people trespassing overnight in the nighttime hours coming into the community trying to sleep and even resident issues. We are requesting 61,000 to improve the safety and security for the residents of 247 affordable units. And as an example on April 15, an unknown person entered the lodge at overcrossing. We have a little mini portable camera we bought off of amazon it did catch the guy coming in. We were able to get footage of some of the items he took some of the damage he did and we turned it all over police but he did take our camera as well. It was a portable camera on top of a bookcase and move the book. It was quite an ordeal so we are looking to put permanent cameras in that hopefully this will not happen. One of our other requests for parking lots resurfacing at the hoever properties which is the lodge and the hearthstone that service 100 affordable units. As you can see from the pictures we are in need of some repairs. These are HUD 202 properties. So they are targeted to seniors over 62 and they have to meet HUDs Am I have 30% income and that’s what they pay up their adjusted income. Primarily disabled like I said elderly residents so it was the ADA repairs and accessibility of the parking lot. And we are also requesting a new playground currently asked them those never had has structural issues we have. These are just a few examples. We have some craps on a lot of the support beams and is old and aged. So it’s been since I started taped off and not usable to the residents. And this is a family property 28 townhouses of two, three and four bedroom units. So we’re requesting 25,800 to repair and replace the structure for the families in that neighborhood. Thank you for your consideration
Unknown Speaker 1:04:38
and I’m here for questions.
Unknown Speaker 1:04:42
Do the residents want
Unknown Speaker 1:04:43
the cameras? Yes, it is. We’ve done resident surveys. We’ve worked really closely with what’s in your services or advisory board and done surveys for the last year and a half. One on one meetings, group meetings. And that was one of the biggest things that came out of the properties of a birthday already even getting back activities, they really wanted that sense of security.
Unknown Speaker 1:05:06
I would think something like that paved surface, like there’d almost be a requirement to replace that at some point, you know, fix those cracks and safety concerns. So is that true? And how would that happen if the funding didn’t happen? No, I mean, like,
Unknown Speaker 1:05:26
we would request to use a reserve replacement. for that. We’re trying to we have some other structural repairs and stuff, we need to do that make ease for that as well.
Unknown Speaker 1:05:37
Just a curiosity. How do you feel about the playground is like a sweet playground? You know?
Unknown Speaker 1:05:47
Yeah. Well, the picture I think is, is the one submitted that is actually part of our, that we went for bid for, and look into,
Unknown Speaker 1:05:55
did you have the kids to a panel? That’s right, I remember.
Unknown Speaker 1:06:06
So we just wanted more accessible, accessible to different age groups, we do have a couple of handicapped children living in the playground. So this has some other features that they can utilize as well. So we looked at the different textures and stuff, deciding
Unknown Speaker 1:06:23
that will say that also with, you know, that’s what you’re talking about the surface with hood, they, they have inspections. And so if they don’t get that done, then you know, we can get fined. And that’s more money that they will have to pay, we don’t get the services, because of those inspections. So it’s like better now to get it done when it’s that amount of money compared to a little bit later. Yeah, you know, with snow and salt.
Unknown Speaker 1:06:52
And that’s really age that property. And with that being a senior property, and with redoing the parking lot, it will actually allow us to bring the parking lot up into the current ADA code to allow because we do any research seeing any restriping we have to bring it up to current code, which would create more handicap spaces on property for the residents.
Unknown Speaker 1:07:11
Thank you. Any other questions? Okay, thank you, Lisa. Thank you. Restart your vice chair. Sure. I’ll call this meeting to order. Thursday, June 9 2020. To order any public invited to be heard. No. Okay. Approve minutes from the May 12. Meeting.
Unknown Speaker 1:07:54
minutes. Second, all in favor? Aye. There, yes,
Unknown Speaker 1:08:02
Unknown Speaker 1:08:06
that was in there. Alright, does that pass if we don’t have quorum while we have the majority of the quorum here?
Unknown Speaker 1:08:18
That’s true. Yeah, it passes four to zero. And 111.
Unknown Speaker 1:08:24
Yeah, as long as you have a quorum, right? You don’t have to have a quorum for every move.
Unknown Speaker 1:08:29
Right. We have majority for a quorum, and the vote passes as majority of
Unknown Speaker 1:08:48
all right, item four. We’ve completed already outside of the meeting. That was the affordable housing CDBG funding round presentations. Next on the agenda is estimated final submittal of the 2022 CDBG action plan.
Unknown Speaker 1:09:06
So I’m gonna ask if I can, I’m gonna have to function a little bit so you guys are just going to have to look at me for a minute while I get things squared away. So included in your Molly O’Donnell Housing Community Investment division manager, that’s pretty late in the game since we’ve been here now for a while together, but still. So you heard our presentations tonight from our applicants. I’m going to go ahead and share this budget proposed budget on screen and then kind of walk through the funding recommendations from staff based on the applications received Okay, so this is gonna be quite challenging to see on the screen for the group here. Because Because I’m can. So something that I want to stress to the group is that our CDBG funding this year has decreased by $40,000 from last year, the year before that we received about a $10,000 decrease. So it’s trending down. And there’s a couple of reasons for that. We don’t we haven’t been able to chat with it yet, because this just came through on Saturday. But we, we know that there’s a set amount of funding for entitlement communities, CDBG communities, if if based on population increases, new communities arise, it’s still the same amount of funding, so it gets distributed amongst more communities. Also, we think that because of ARPA funding, and other, you know, there’s a lot of federal funding out there. And we think that there was some discussions at Congress about making sure that you can demonstrate that you can spend all of that as well. And so we think that other funding sources such as CDBG might have been reduced. Because of all the funding out there, the only branch of a senator campaign right there, not that we know. So our funding amount for CDBG has gone down. So it’s 519,000 is a total grant. And then what we have available for competitive award right now is showing it 124,000. But it is we ended up increasing our rehab allocation because we didn’t get enough applications to complete all of our CDBG funding. So we could always flex our rehab funds and reallocate that back out to a competitive project in the future. Does that make sense? So the projects that we have applications for for CDBG funding, that staff is recommending award totals 124,000. And we typically put about $100,000, in our home at home on home owner occupied rehab program. So we’ve got about a $100,000 of flex funding right now that we could keep in rehab, or if we do another funding application round and a few months, we could pull some of that out and fund a new project. That makes sense. I’m just trying to go over the funding basics first. And also given that this entire group that is online and here is all new to HCI in this funding process with Kathy’s retirement, and then the prior staffs departures as well. So we have a kind of a an open book, if you’d like to go over certain things, just let me know. Or otherwise, I’m gonna kind of give a background on the CDBG funding and affordable housing fund, and then talk about those staff recommendations. So going back up to the top here, this is not a home funding year for Longmont, we do get the Consortium’s share funding for 2023. So that’ll be next year. For our more affordable housing fund. This we have more revenue projected for this upcoming year than ever before. That’s because our fee in Lieu is projected to start coming in and a pretty good wave. So with that, once you consider the administration that we need to pull out, which is at the bottom, we need about $483,000 to cover staff salaries and other administrative needs moving back up.
Unknown Speaker 1:13:57
And then we have several projects that we have commitments to already that we pull off the top of that. And then what is left is open up for competitive award. Right now we had about our competitive funds available are 1.6 million. And we have the one project proposed here for habitat for 646,000. So that means we’ve got a month about a million dollars right now. On obligate into a project, we will put out the funding cycle again and more times if needed to to soak up that that really I will let you know overall we’re in an interesting time. That is because the city with ARPA funds, in partnership with the Housing Authority has a lot of affordable housing development on the horizon. But at this point of this year, it’s all in planning phases except for a couple and so they’re too early to apply. So we think in a few months Time by certainly by next year, we will have some really large projects applying that will most likely get larger size allocations. But what then what we’re talking about tonight? Is there any questions on how the funding budget? Yes,
Unknown Speaker 1:15:14
so if we don’t use that million by the end of the year, that hurts the budget next year.
Unknown Speaker 1:15:20
Not necessarily it will carry over, we do have a pretty, pretty hefty projection on the revenue here from fee in lieu, and that might not all hit either. And in that case, we it will come next year and we just put that in that funding pot for next year to open up.
Unknown Speaker 1:15:41
This isn’t a funding question Sugar Mill is that are those sales secured for two of the three parcels? You know,
Unknown Speaker 1:15:50
that habitasse participating in where they mentioned it? And I’d heard
Unknown Speaker 1:15:53
that developers spot you know, one each of three parcels so two of them that I didn’t know the city was involved in any any of that in terms of affordable housing?
Unknown Speaker 1:16:06
Um, yes, we are. So I’m opening up my screen maybe. Right back to zoom to show our folks okay. Okay, me Do you mind unmuting. I want to introduce these this crew here my assumption me for a moment so I can introduce everyone. I should have done it earlier. But in our our interesting start to do that you maybe didn’t get there. So I’m going to ask you to introduce yourself, Deb Kaylene. Katie, and Adam KV. Will you start since there’s a question about the sugar mill?
Unknown Speaker 1:16:59
He was wondering if the parcels that sugar mill had been have been purchased?
Unknown Speaker 1:17:05
Yeah. It sounded like there were two parcels that were being purchased by developers and whether city of long months involved or affordable housing on those
Unknown Speaker 1:17:21
interested parties is what I was told. I haven’t seen that coming for development yet. But I know that this is working quietly to try to help make something happen. Okay,
Unknown Speaker 1:17:39
thank you. Alright,
Unknown Speaker 1:17:40
so I introduced Kayleen is our affordable housing specialist. And she primarily runs the inclusionary housing program for us. So when a development comes in for a pre AP and starts getting through the actual development review process, she does the inclusionary housing review and make sure that they meet their 12% requirement in some fashion. And then Adam, do you mind introducing yourself?
Unknown Speaker 1:18:07
Good evening, everybody. My name is Adam Sanderson. And I am the Housing and Community Investment Program Specialist. primarily doing CDBG and the rehab program.
Unknown Speaker 1:18:23
And then Deb, do you mind introducing yourself?
Unknown Speaker 1:18:26
And don’t mind me, sorry, I’m
Unknown Speaker 1:18:28
having internet problems. So I’ve got my camera off, but I difficulties
Unknown Speaker 1:18:32
housing investment managers, so I get to help support them with all the
Unknown Speaker 1:18:39
project. Thanks to him. And then Katie, if you’re there, do you mind introducing yourself? Yeah.
Unknown Speaker 1:18:47
So I’m Katie. And I am the housing development specialist. So we’re seeing all our development projects that we’re getting off the ground with ARPA funds with the council allocated earlier this year.
Unknown Speaker 1:19:03
Thank you, everybody. So we do have our resources here. We are fully staffed and housing beauty investment. Yay. And so if there’s any other questions about inclusionary housing or anything like that, we can put them in.
Unknown Speaker 1:19:20
Thank you. So 215,000 for needs assessment. housing needs assessment is that separate and distinct are included in the you know, every three years? Housing Human Services does it needs assessment is that separate?
Unknown Speaker 1:19:31
So this is separate so this is actually grant funded by Dola. So we are in the end will end up putting about $26,000 of affordable housing fund at the local match, but 86,000 will get reimbursed by doula but we have to hold it all here so we don’t overspend but it will get reimbursed back to the to the fund. So that yes,
Unknown Speaker 1:19:54
this is a minor change. It’s good. Again, these two words is This is a more attainable housing versus affordable needs assessment.
Unknown Speaker 1:20:04
So it’s, it’s more specific than the assessment that we feed into the comp plan every four years. So it’s really supposed to it does what you want it to cover affordable, attainable, really just housing stock. More than, well, we do get some good income information related to housing needs. But this is more about housing stock, what kind of stock we have gaps in and what we need, and looking at our affordable housing incentives to see what we could do compared to other communities in the nation. So it’s specifically grant funded out of the state. So it will be our grid working with planning close into
Unknown Speaker 1:20:48
Patapsco. Sir, fiscal year again, is it not calendar this is okay.
Unknown Speaker 1:20:59
So, I’m gonna just adjust as we go to make sure we can see everybody. Okay, so let me go back to sharing this
Unknown Speaker 1:21:09
screen easy. So it just seems like in terms of 1.6 million, with the million if this Habitat for Humanity were funded, the approximately million left it, it seems like we’re already at this point in the game. And it’s not likely that there’s going to be any large projects that are coming up on with planning and all of that I would think they’d already be in the hopper is that for me as
Unknown Speaker 1:21:37
well, so not. So habitat in the in between our partnering we’ve heard and they do plan on submitting next go around. We also know that hoever communities, their their senior living communities, they have a need for some rehab work, they just weren’t quite they didn’t have their cost estimates. But they’re gearing up to apply next time to next time I’m thinking the end of summer is when we’re going to open it up again. So we do have a couple that are going to be in the hopper that may or may not use fair amount. And then the real the larger developments, we will have some that will have financing in place enough to know what their gap is by early next year. Okay, so I really think this is for an odd little dip. It’s kind of a post COVID Dip where we had a couple projects that were in development during COVID are hitting now like the sunset element, permanent supportive housing project got awarded Chrisman to affordable apartments are getting, they’re gonna close next week. We’re just in that post COVID Dip where everybody was kind of pausing. And now they’re ramping up again, especially with ARPA funds. So I do think this is a temporary dip. Okay. Okay, so there any other questions on any of these, the projects that we have basically pulled off the top before we open up the competitive funds. So then I’m gonna go ahead back up and go back to our CDBG funding here. So public service, we are only allowed to use 15% of our CDBG funds for public service. So that means something that is not specifically rehab for the support of low income people, or some other example projects that we’ve had out there, but primarily rehab and other eligible activities. So every year we plan $50,000, for housing counseling, we do support that an ongoing basis. And that is definitely public service. And then II for all who you’ve heard from tonight. That is an economic development activity. So there’s a couple of ways in CDBG, you could go about that. You can track job creation, which is very intensive. And we need a lot of really specific data from the people that ended up being successful in starting their business through the program. That is something that we have, the city has not delved into for a very long time, just because the affordable housing need here has been so great for so long. So the best way to move forward for E for all and for us is to call it a public service and use their education sessions as the the true public service that’s happening. They do have to to still get some income data for their from their participants, but that’s the way to do it. The reason they had requested a higher amount but only 30,000 is available for this is because we are capped at by public service at 80,000. So I would say typically going in the past decade of the Housing Community Investment division, if we had housing projects coming through This project would probably not be funded, because of the that’s just the history of what this, this board has advised. And, and what is, has happened. So for ether, all the our division opened up this funding cycle last October, and April was the only applicants. And we just opened it up now and they applied again. And we didn’t get enough additional applications that were ready to go to fill up all the funding. So at this point in time, because we need to send some CDBG send spend CDBG money, staff is recommending that we fund them as a public service. We don’t get into the long term job creation tracking and more do it on the education side. You can there there is this a part of staff analysis, because they have an ongoing this is their ongoing funding sources for operating costs, right. So we could expect them to apply on a continual basis. And then that’s up to two staff recommendation and your board funding recommendations to city council, whether you want to fund them, even with affordable housing competitive projects.
Unknown Speaker 1:26:13
So some for some contexts, I was it was early on in my time in one month, deals you before you were chair, they have come before this board in the past years. And we the board decided because they were so new not to fund them back round, to see if they could garner the community support to make them more sustainable before they came back before the board. So just some some context, this is not their first time coming before this board.
Unknown Speaker 1:26:49
applied three times come to this board now twice. And, you know, it’s up to you guys to let us know if you think that they demonstrated what you were looking for last time
Unknown Speaker 1:27:01
suitability and Community Investment outside us.
Unknown Speaker 1:27:08
Something you’ll see that’s not in our public service that typically has been in the past is security deposit assistance for voucher holders that are now going through our well. It was really through that housing solution for Boulder County. Now it is that need has been covered for the last couple of years by the locally funded voucher program. And so we’ve had HSPC security deposits on this list for a couple of years. And we’ve actually had to D obligate that funding and and move it around. Because that need is no longer there. Just in case you remember seeing that and it’s not there. Now that’s why it’s needed is being filled. Okay,
Unknown Speaker 1:27:49
question? Do you need us to vote on the football game? Or do you want us to wait to do that? Or?
Unknown Speaker 1:27:57
I don’t know how you’ve done it in the past. If that makes you guys more comfortable? If you want to vote first are here the staff?
Unknown Speaker 1:28:04
Yeah, remember? Yeah, I don’t remember exactly how we did it. I think. I think it makes sense to you to step it out. So I mean, Jerry, you get to decide this. But I think that’s we did it before the new millennium. provide your feedback and vote at once. Yeah, you could, you could change it, you could vote on each project, if you want.
Unknown Speaker 1:28:30
So I’m going to switch sharing since now we’re getting into some detail.
Unknown Speaker 1:28:39
We used to have the TRG.
Unknown Speaker 1:28:43
Come with the recommendations first. I’m also looking at the time to take 40. So
Unknown Speaker 1:28:54
we’ll go a little bit quicker. So you had in your packet, the staff memo for each of these projects with our recommendations and our analysis. We did something different this year, we tried to include everything that’s in our funding policies and procedures, the way that we make recommendations, we translated that into a rating system so that each of us in HCI could review and and see if they met all that criteria and just try and be a little more streamlined with how we review and then how we let you guys check out the data. So the habitat project this is like a real test of coordination Okay, so for the habitat project. We they have you heard they were requesting CDBG funds. CDBG funds are out eligible are eligible for the purpose of public infrastructure, they’d have to do Davis Bacon prevailing wages, and it’s a process. But generally, because of our funding amount this year, whether we funded any of the other applicants tonight, we wouldn’t have an ASIC fully fulfill their request for CDBG. So our recommendation is to continue with affordable housing fund. That’s what they got in the past, because we’ve already funded this project. And in other ways, the terms that we recommended here are the same 0% interest for 20 years with a payback basically, once they once they close a CDBG as a grant, so they don’t have to pay it back. So that that means then if we give them a grant, once they close on the properties, then they do the people keep the proceeds essentially, rather than having a loan obligation. So our recommendation was to go ahead and fund them fully with the Affordable Housing Fund. i We could discuss if you want to considering part CDBG, and hard affordable housing fund, I could not find any examples where we’ve provided CDBG to have a tab in the past, it’s all been affordable housing fund, at least in the last five years plus, so I’m kind of making our recommendation based on consistency with what we’ve done. And given that you want a grant for the end result is those in the 60% Ami range versus lower ones. So if there’s any discussion or questions,
Unknown Speaker 1:31:45
Molly, why do you think that they requested CVD is back. But they haven’t done it in the past?
Unknown Speaker 1:31:53
I thought they requested it in the past. That’s something I’ve been trying to dig through. But it’s hard to tell if they’ve requested it in the past. And then between HCI TRG. And this board, the decision was made to make it affordable housing funds, I’m not sure. Okay.
Unknown Speaker 1:32:09
So you’re, if I understand correctly, you’re saying that those CBD G funds may be better invested in projects that are serving a lower Ami.
Unknown Speaker 1:32:20
Typically, especially when you’re giving a grant. You could consider a combo if you want. It’s not necessarily streamlines, but that is out there. It’s possible
Unknown Speaker 1:32:38
can get affordable housing loans ever be deferred and turned into grants?
Unknown Speaker 1:32:44
They can be deferred? Certainly. In this case, there have been pretty consistent at this term 0% for 20 years. So the in the first year Applegate we’re sticking with consistency as a recommendation. But we are definitely open to mixing it up if
Unknown Speaker 1:33:03
there’s there’s good feedback to do. So. Do you know if their price points were based on counting on CDBG funds versus?
Unknown Speaker 1:33:14
I do not know that? But we definitely let’s see, I think we said when we put out our Notice of Funding Availability, Hey, Adam or Kayleen, could you look at our website real quick and remind me what we said was potentially available and CDBG. We didn’t we didn’t say 646 was available. So they must be expecting that if they get CDBG will be partial? Because we didn’t even have that much on the on the table to start with.
Unknown Speaker 1:33:45
So my often my measure of like grant or loan would be with the project be in jeopardy if they don’t get the grant. And it sounds like from a historic perspective they’ve managed with the lungs. So there’s no reason to believe they like the costs would go up significantly for borrowers or the homeowner,
Unknown Speaker 1:34:08
I would say on the cost question perhaps not for borrowers, because they seems like they have a pretty, pretty good setup, experience setup and doing it that way. I will say I anticipate the reason that they’re requesting it for public improvements. Is the construction cost escalation. That’s just crazy right now. Yeah. So that might be a stressor for them, causing a gap that they don’t yet have a source to fill.
Unknown Speaker 1:34:43
So I just take my answer everyone’s questions about Wi Fi for a call prior to submitting their application and I wasn’t able to give them a second round request was quite large. And so they applied some Super Bowl to apply for bold and the more on the side more appropriate. Excuse me.
Unknown Speaker 1:35:14
So I guess it’s up to this board to decide whether or not we want to support staff recommendation to council considering this? No. Do I have a motion?
Unknown Speaker 1:35:30
A motion on? So what the motion to, to accept staff recommendation on
Unknown Speaker 1:35:38
funding? Or not to or otherwise?
Unknown Speaker 1:35:41
Or or meant to change it? Yeah, we need a motion. I move
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Brian sense of
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Unknown Speaker 1:35:56
didn’t hear your hand up. Oh, opposed.
Unknown Speaker 1:36:03
You get that motion.
Unknown Speaker 1:36:07
So I will give the kind of a combo analysis on the lhsaa projects, these are all CDBG applications. So the we do have a good amount of visibility into LSAS needs. Now that diversity is working so closely. And so we the some of these needs have come out of capital needs assessments that lmha prepared to try and plan out all of the work that needs to be done. I will say the projects on here are, are you know 20% of what the what they need to do. And so this they they absolutely would have other projects that they could use their replacement reserves or they’ll probably keep applying is what I would anticipate because they’ve got plenty of projects. And I will support the security systems have made a big difference in Resident culture and the sense of safety and actual safety. It really is a deterrent to sit for those that know that they’re there. And then the playground at the playground has not been usable for several years. It is in isn’t it isn’t need. And then the the parking lots that we kind of went over that in pretty good detail where there are ABA compliance issues. They if you touch the parking lot, a small bit, you need to touch the whole parking lot. So that’s why they’re coming in for the funding in one fell swoop rather than doing their small regular projects that they could do on their own. So our recommendation is CDBG funds for those projects. They do serve the Aspen Meadows neighborhood is 40% and the low am eyes for those families. You heard Hearthstone and lodge for the parking lot. That’s 30% and below, and then the other one is kind of spread across all the properties and the properties. I think all of their residents currently right 50% And below. So staff’s recommendation is to fund those as a CDBG.
Unknown Speaker 1:38:21
Grant. I move we accept staff recommendation to fund Lhh CDBG funds
Unknown Speaker 1:38:39
think you only need to circle back then to E for
Unknown Speaker 1:38:43
conversation. I guess the question board is that they met your admit what you all wanted from the last time, which is about three or four years ago.
Unknown Speaker 1:38:55
It’s been a while. And they were brand spanking new. A guy just rolled in a towel. Yeah.
Unknown Speaker 1:39:04
I mean, they seem pretty solid at this point to me. I mean, they have a lot of community support they funded sponsor 50 different business owners. They seem a lot more solid than some of the people will find it to be quite honest. So they’re filling a hole that I think other other organizations aren’t necessarily necessarily filling it I’ve seen in our application process.
Unknown Speaker 1:39:31
The it seems like they’ve really been effective at reaching that target market of the individuals who haven’t had opportunities in the past to build businesses and equity and wealth. It’s impressive that they have been that effective because it’s difficult. So I supported
Unknown Speaker 1:39:52
the things you have any questions with us, we want to make sure
Unknown Speaker 1:39:59
that I do not have any questions. I think it’s an organization that does, you know, equally good things for us over housing, but in terms of employment and economic prosperity for its members.
Unknown Speaker 1:40:21
I actually like that as under public service, to be honest. Yeah, I really do. Because it’s education, as well, and exposing them to career professionals or businesses. So that is, you know, for people who have no clue, all they know is that they have a vision. And so they provide all of these mentors for them, and, and give them the tools that they need to be successful in the support. So I’m looking at that as being a public service because of laterals, people really don’t know where to go or intimidated to.
Unknown Speaker 1:41:02
So I will say if our funding increases next year, or mid year, which did happen with HUD reviser award last year, we could, if there’s more public service allowed, you could find more if you want to come back for that.
Unknown Speaker 1:41:20
Motion, you can entertain a motion,
Unknown Speaker 1:41:22
I would move to adopt staffs recommendation on 30,000.
Unknown Speaker 1:41:35
to six months, 30,000 to 630. motion a second. All those. Okay, so our plan is to summarize this into our CDBG Action Plan, which we do pair our affordable housing funding recommendations with and we will take this to city council on June 8. All right. Thank you, everyone. And thank you for
Unknown Speaker 1:42:13
helping us get through this.
Unknown Speaker 1:42:14
Thanks for being the DAV support. Staff.
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You gotta be flexible, be flexible. And
Unknown Speaker 1:42:29
so speaking of if I turn my computer off, can we make it still to use your so due to
Unknown Speaker 1:42:38
the fact that we, you know, we So Eric has an IRA, Eric and I, we’re still working on the application. Tonight, my plan was to show you the how we have kept the outcomes that this group created last year, because at the collaborative level, they have reduced their 16 outcomes date with six. So Eric, and I did the translation to make sure that they still fit within hours. And we’re just going to show that to you. And I think it’s in your packets, you can see it so we weren’t expecting any feedback, or we weren’t going to we were expecting to review and answer questions but no decisions needed to be Right exactly. So we don’t have to have it tonight and of course site visits we can always do. So if the board wants to move forward and we can do those things next month, that’s fine.
Unknown Speaker 1:43:31
Yeah, let’s move item six and seven to next month’s agenda. Item made announcements or business okay,
Unknown Speaker 1:43:45
I like to see you on the gym teeth on June 19 They want to say that I have a great celebration keynote speaker
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where Will there be beer
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Oh, I’m sorry. I thought you’re being sarcastic when you sit down but you
Unknown Speaker 1:44:22
know it’s a tactic to make you go spend money
Unknown Speaker 1:44:29
Yeah, I need more food trucks
Unknown Speaker 1:44:36
food trucks, no foodstuff like I hear them on like
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shame I’ve reached out to to their food people and no one has done it that way.
Unknown Speaker 1:44:59
NASA from staff from our site is we are looking into divine meeting,
Unknown Speaker 1:45:02
because le Bartos
Unknown Speaker 1:45:06
probably couldn’t be out. Yeah. So we might have to move the July meeting to like, either the previous like the first week or?
Unknown Speaker 1:45:15
Yeah. So we’ll keep the chairs updated on that. And I’m not sure if he has anything
Unknown Speaker 1:45:25
policy to bring potentially but we can do.
Unknown Speaker 1:45:28
And I think for us, the July meeting will probably be when we’re launching the human services funding on July 15. Eric and I we’ve been working pretty hard on getting this out of this new found it. So we might be hopefully, if we do it after maybe a training of bounded and careers, we do have interaction planet training set for July, and it may be a training on how to use found it because it’ll be new to all of us. So I might even ask them to sleep they can
Unknown Speaker 1:46:03
also for us, even seven
Unknown Speaker 1:46:08
something like that.
Unknown Speaker 1:46:13
Okay, yes, this is for the Human Services Agency. Right.
Unknown Speaker 1:46:18
You’re gonna love it.
Unknown Speaker 1:46:21
We’re working through it. It’s been interesting setting up this application. So. All right, I’ll entertain a motion to adjourn. So move to do John. Good night.