Water Board Meeting – December 2022

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Water Board Meeting – December 2022

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Unknown Speaker 0:00
Okay, call the meeting to order.

Unknown Speaker 0:06
Allison gold here. Tom Lester. Scott Lueck there. Roger Lang can use it. Here and then boom here. Jason Elkins here, Bartlett pear. Bob Allen is not here yet. Josh Sherman, there’s not either. Heather McIntyre is here. And councilmember Martin is not here yet. Jerry do you have

Unknown Speaker 0:34
for everybody’s information in case you didn’t know, city house is going to choose the board member tomorrow. Our vacancy decision will be made tomorrow night. Okay. Approval of previous month’s meetings, minutes. Questions or comments on last minutes, minutes or motion to approve. And you second it’s got

Unknown Speaker 1:11
nothing to do it. The silence so I thought maybe.

Unknown Speaker 1:17
Okay, thanks. All in favor by saying aye. Aye. Okay. Spencer, could be

Unknown Speaker 1:31
that. This morning, the flow of St. green lines was 16 and a half CFS with historical average of the same 16 CFS. The call on the st rain this morning change to file number two, with an admin number of 1006 42 and a priority data November 15 81. To call on the main stem of the South Platte River is Riverside reservoir at number, episode number 20,006 98. And the priority date of May 29 19. Route price reservoir is an elevation of 6397 or approximately 1570 acre feet which is down approximately six. Human reservoirs have an elevation of point 517 feet, or 11,000. Zero sudden flooding 1000 acres, which is approximately 617 100 acre feet and the same green base and storage. December 1 was 69%.

Unknown Speaker 2:51
A question? Alright. Thanks for inviting me here.

Unknown Speaker 2:58
We are with us. I’m training him to take my place in case of absence or anything like that. So we’ll be filling in. And I’m not planning to

Unknown Speaker 3:16
I will be missing the January meeting. Oh.

Unknown Speaker 3:20
Any agenda revisions?

Unknown Speaker 3:24
We do. We at Berkeley didn’t get the memo item in for cash in lieu so I’ll just pass that out.

Unknown Speaker 3:44
Okay, on this development activity, last few acres.

Unknown Speaker 3:51
So I’ll just call that briefly with waterboard. Once you ate acres annexation is a 7.6 acre parcel. There are no historical rates pertinent to the annotation. Included in that annexation is a 1.6 acre right away and airport. So let’s do acres annexation isn’t going to require a policy solution. It will be a time to final plats upon the satisfaction of the 18.75. Just for a quick little background the what’s been proposed on this side is approximately 22 watts. There’s currently two lofts. So the adding 20 single family homes around the perimeter that existed to us

Unknown Speaker 4:46
that’s all I have.

Unknown Speaker 4:57
Can we have a lot of vacancy right Watch out that way I wouldn’t think

Unknown Speaker 5:08
that’s what’s being proposed they put a concept plan annexation, that’d be fleshed out.

Unknown Speaker 5:15
Question from anybody? Is there already a residence, there are

Unknown Speaker 5:29
lines to existing residence.

Unknown Speaker 5:32
That makes sense, and they’re gonna break it out.

Unknown Speaker 5:36
It’ll the plan is right now, those two lots existing lots of say, around the perimeter will be an additional 20. It’s pretty good. Yeah. It’s not as dense as some areas. I mean, it’ll be, but it’s commensurate with probably the surrounding area.

Unknown Speaker 6:03
Okay. Motion to approve some. Right. Second, on favor. So yeah, I

Unknown Speaker 6:22
can I should move. So yeah, I’ll take that. So just, this has been very similar to what you saw in the last quarter. That being that reminder, cash in Lieu is presently $48,500 per acre foot. And that was based upon Council’s recommendation to set that based on the entire cost of providing a full acre foot of water to the city portfolio. More specifically, as it relates to the windy gap project has been the principal project. We had thought that there might be some more financial information coming in from the northern staff is managing the project. However, at this time, we’re still waiting on that that kind of ties to the Colorado River and connectivity channel project. And until around, we’ve talked about that a little bit in the past. The we’re using the project is using some of its reserves to cover project changes and cost increases. Money is still in there in those reserves to cover that. But it’s likely that next year, we’ll be coming to the participants to cover those additional costs is just kind of expected. And so as soon as we get any additional request for, for money for this project, that will bring that to water board, and then those numbers can be revised. But as of right now, it’s still at that sum total of 45. So therefore, staff is still recommending no further changes to the to the current cash in

Unknown Speaker 8:17
your in that information. If you have any sense of which direction those numbers might go. They would change or we do not know. Until we get to

Unknown Speaker 8:29
the direction, are they going to be asking for money. So the money to love that’d be the direction? I think what you’re asking is maybe how much like?

Unknown Speaker 8:36
Well, I know first, I want to know, you know, if you sense that it will change.

Unknown Speaker 8:42
I believe it’s going to it’s going to change. Yes. And I don’t know how much. Usually a large project, it’s standard to have a 10% contingency. I think in this case, even before the litigation is I may be led up to close to 20%. But there’s, you know, a large project like this and significant part of it is probably build us. And the project takes this long fuel costs change. We all understand that. And so there’ll be a lot of different details that will come out. But so I can’t say exactly how much but I think it’s fair to say that we all should be anticipating another request for to keep those reserves in place so that they don’t have to stop work.

Unknown Speaker 9:35
And the timing of this will be one sometime first quarter where you go beyond that.

Unknown Speaker 9:44
We might have a march setting more than likely. We kind of know what some of the numbers are. We’ll cover that a little, you know, the actual will need any additional million probably the year because reserving the right to cash is there. So it won’t happen next year, not contemplated. And with that mentioned, three, we believe we’ll know the numbers, the spring

Unknown Speaker 10:18
selections for

Unknown Speaker 10:23
ya, I do have a question. So given that we’ve just kind of recently moved to a new cash in lieu value, I guess, and that we’ve adopted kind of a new approach and calculating the cost. I don’t think we had any decision yet. But I think it may be worth discussing the extent to which any of these kind of incremental increases in project costs get passed along to this concept that we you know, that is cash in lieu? Right? So, so in other words, is every dollar amount that goes up, that we have to pay out in order to kind of like, cover some kind of contingency or something on the connectivity channel? Or some kind of cost increase on it to me hollow or something? How do they do that? How do we anticipate that those things will translate into increase in cash in lieu payments for or for values?

Unknown Speaker 11:32
So far, how we did it in our last kind of reassessment of we use when the gap for me project terminal construction, as the benchmark for that. As time goes on, we’ll continue to report all the different variables we’ve looked at. But if you use if we continue to use a windy gap for me project, if that cost goes up, then incrementally instead of 45, that project will be 49 or 50, or 51. And then I think waterboard can look at that and say, we’re good before we have now we want to use that new numbers. Now to really be up to the board when we get any new numbers. Right now, we don’t have it, you know, there hasn’t been a request, it’s gonna be a while before that, that’ll probably be the biggest thing is when we pull that trigger, when we actually spend the money or when we know how much it is. So but yeah, in my mind, I would anticipate we have a new number for the moody government project, that seems like a reasonable metric to use to set cash in lieu. So if it goes up a little bit, I could see cash similar to how we’ve always done it, you know, whatever metric we want, we use CBD CBG went up. Kashmir went up or down. Many times it went down. But it attracted. Propose would probably drag it with this project.

Unknown Speaker 13:18
Yeah, I guess I guess my my point is that there was kind of stable for so I mean, not necessarily stable, but certainly much, much lower than it is today. For a very long time, or for some period of time, at least, we’ve just made this kind of recent update to the cash in lieu kind of approach. And whether or not we as as waterboard would want to kind of like, recommend that any costs, future incremental costs, and these projects get passed on immediately or directly, whether that’s the kind of like future kind of approach that we want to take is, is small, incremental changes over time with each one of these kinds of new updates and the cost of the projects, or whether we would want to kind of like, you know, roll those out, kind of some type of, you know, different type of basis, I guess so. I don’t know that I know the answer to that. I’m just kind of putting the thought out there, I guess for eventual discussion.

Unknown Speaker 14:27
Okay, any other comments?

Unknown Speaker 14:30
Oh, one question

Unknown Speaker 14:31
kind of related to Thomas’s for looking is my understanding this really comes

Unknown Speaker 14:39
through the window is the cash in lieu payment and how to get triggered. So cash in lieu payments are received more frequently as related to planning. The raw water requirement policy affords the developer once it has been annexed to satisfy all the remains. Even deficit for that annexation, but typically they’ll wait until they have like a subset of that remaining and the plat it, otherwise, the cost is much greater. So you can envision if you had 100 acres and annexed, you might plat for 25 acre pieces over four years and only do your cash in lieu associated with each one of those. But depending on the owner, the developers perspective, they may choose to satisfy all 100 acres, whatever’s left with that right after annexation, so that, if you will they satisfied there’s they’re not less than three acre foot per acre requirement. But we’ve had that occasionally. But it’s usually been when the historic water rights have nearly satisfied all the deficits visits, it just makes more all call it marketing sense to say there are no further raw water deficits, who instead of saying do a small little fraction, but it each annexation is is unique for sure. Okay,

Unknown Speaker 16:09
thank you, that’s really helpful. So using this method, we’ve got kind of two different categories of property within Lomasa. The ones that give charity or this passionate, one are things that have yet to be asked to have things that have been asked, but have yet to be planted. Do we have a sense of how much area? It is? And if so, how much are we looking at the current rates, it was at 45. Or if we do a constant testing kind of further. So we had maybe like a high growth scenario, or global scenario just kind of evened out a little bit in terms of the actual order magnitude of these two categories.

Unknown Speaker 16:49
So we we do have a gross idea. So we’ve, we’ve based upon the current Longmont planning area, we know how much area within that planning area has not yet been annexed. And then we also have a pretty good idea of what the historic water rights are associated with that. So then removing that from the equation leaves the remaining amount, but each again, each property is unique. So you’re looking at a growth scale. But probably a little bit of emphasis added the policy is an area that he’s policy about to use base policy. So I know we talk a lot about, you know, high density versus low density or whatever. And we there’s that I also remind the board that there is a piece in the existing raw water requirement policy so that if any parcel shows to us greater than three acre feet per acre, did they have to bring that additional water to the table to satisfy that additional amount? So I don’t have that number in front of me to say how much less the historic water item is there. I think we could probably get a general break. Give me a general sense maybe next month and what magnitude you’re talking about. But again, also gotta keep in mind that the policy allows them to bring acceptable non insured water rights. So it may or may not be passionately that we received to satisfy that episode.

Unknown Speaker 18:17
Yeah. That’s, I’d be curious about that. Just take that.

Unknown Speaker 18:23
We have all of that in a GIS format as well. Really hard to not look at it in GIS format to bring that up. Not right now. But future meetings. Often, sometimes to see where it is and it gives a sense, compared everything visually, you can see so if you’re interested, we’ll be happy to Yeah, I posted. We will do that. Okay. We take action, or motion. We’re not changing it though. All right. All right. All right. All right. Next. Nardini is right here. Down here. I think I’m

Unknown Speaker 19:32
supposed to talk about are your org structure organization online.

Unknown Speaker 19:40
Yeah, that’s the item on the agenda here.

Unknown Speaker 19:42
I was I was kind of realizing that. I was digging drilling down into this waterproof structure, not thinking about the whole city structure, which might might be quick to review. So I don’t know how many know exactly how the city is recognize that for the last few years certainly since Harold’s been here, we moved to this assistant city manager model. And each of the we have three city assistant city managers manage a I’ll call it kind of a portfolio of city services. And so Jodie Marsh still has the planning, development, redevelopment code. I’m not even gonna go through it all because I won’t pull it out of my head real quickly. But she’s kind of focused around that area, which is an obvious called things with affinities to planning. And then Sandy cedar has a group that’s called Shared Services, which is all the cities was careful uses term there, I was used the term enterprise level services, but not like enterprise funds, enterprise level being legal finance, you know, human resources, things of that nature. And, in particular, financers centered in that group. And then Dave Hornbacher now has the portfolio of Public Works and utilities. So within that group, and I think that’s the slide we have up here is Dave Hornbacher is group under which resides this water and waste department. You can see on the far left a public works group, and then the electric group. We’ve got some things off to the side, but the three major focus areas of the utilities, the electric utility, and the Public Works transportation. So within within this group, the staff predominantly in here today are within this water and waste services group. And the purpose of this organization was a few things everything, of course, suddenly has different reasons why we bring in change. But one of the one of the big things we had for a long time was a very strong leader in our organization, who recently retired. And in doing that, that that leader Dale Rademacher that most of you know, have been here a long time and had really good knowledge about a lot of things, and even to a pretty deep level. And so the organization that was structured under him, was one that was really played to his strengths and his knowledge. And his ability to direct that group within what I would call a matrix organization structure rather than vertical integration of the utilities and other services we have. It was a hybrid to be sure, I mean, the electric utility was vertically integrated. However, the water sewer storm, and even transportation utility was kind of in a matrix form where you had engineering in this slice, you have operations in this slice, you had the financial services in this slice. And when he retired, there was a consideration for how to maybe change that organization to a place of strength, so those who remain and then could leave certain areas. And that’s kind of what we have here then is, we’ve gone back to somewhat of a vertical integration of the water, sewer, the wet utilities, rather than them being split into a bunch of different departments. They’re now sitting predominantly in one department of transportation and public works on that far left, kind of more vertically integrated, more traditional style, public works group. You’ve got the pie any way you want to and still be successful. This is the way we’ve cut it working with Arrow two, I think deliver the services in the best possible way and kind of kind of restore a little bit of a focus in particular, on these wet utilities, we have so much of the decision making split up among so many different people that it was becoming almost too complex was a little bit of the who’s on first, who’s making this decision versus that decision. So a little bit of this was to actually refocus that. So that we have these groups that really have common, a common portfolio of services within them. And it plays a little bit more of the strengths of those of us who are providing leadership in the organization. So that’s what we have, yeah, that this is your Yeah, this shows just this group. And, you know, at this point, it’s really kind of a an accumulation of the things that were in these other groups when it was a matrix organization. Should. So we’ve got a treatment operations group pressure and gravity systems operations that are in a kind of a big operations group, which is somewhat similar to what we had engineering, ours focus just on water and wastewater in that area. And then you have the regulatory services, environmental services in the lab. And then water resources. So those are really remnants of a past organization, they fit in here pretty well, we’ll probably continue to do a little tweaking to optimize this. The other thing that’s in this group is the sanitation the waste, Solid Waste Services. And that that group is technically a utility, it certainly is different than everything else. I think it continued in this group, in part, because I’ve led it for quite some time, and it kind of followed me in. But who knows what the future that might be. It could be it could be something different. And it certainly has affinities with other things in the organization. But I think the the takeaway here is that we’re really trying to take a stab at refocusing our efforts in the wet utilities, businesses in the city, and kind of kind of go into an assessment right now, what our strengths are, where our weaknesses are, where we have issues, collaboration, issues, integration issues, anything that we can identify that we could maybe work on to make us a stronger utility organization. And Roger, I’d be happy to answer any questions. The board has been a

Unknown Speaker 26:50
while. So referring to Harold are there three assistant, city manager? Dave, the

Unknown Speaker 27:05
replacement, really today all but it’s a different organization, what Dale that some of the things that were in here are no longer

Unknown Speaker 27:13
or was Dave. When Dale was still here.

Unknown Speaker 27:18
He was the electric utility director. What’s not in here is natural resources, the sustainability program, the financial. So we had Dale’s group that kind of reproduced the whole financial group. And for good reason. The enterprise funds are a little different, certainly than the general fund. But it was somewhat of an adjunct anyway, to Jim Goldman and Sandy cedars Financial Group. And so that formally moved over into into that area, just to fully integrate all the financial work together. This is, this was about a month ago. And I mean, Harold’s been working on these changes for about the last six months at the time. Dale

Unknown Speaker 28:10
retiro unveiling and you know,

Unknown Speaker 28:14
yeah, it did. And that that was part of the thinking here was to work the strengths of those who have.

Unknown Speaker 28:26
questions. Any questions about this?

Unknown Speaker 28:32
No, I think that was a really good overview. Thank you.

Unknown Speaker 28:39
Okay, thanks a lot for you.

Unknown Speaker 28:43
Please, with these would be worth

Unknown Speaker 28:50
you know, I love the challenge of working to optimize things and I think that’s mostly what he does in really strong teams. So

Unknown Speaker 29:03
congratulations.

Unknown Speaker 29:05
Thank you. These are the short straw.

Unknown Speaker 29:09
All right, appreciate it, Josh. I don’t know. I guess Josh, you’re running that project on a

Unknown Speaker 29:22
hill. Yes, sir. Jason and asked up. My name is Josh Sherman. I’m a civil engineer with public works, currently managing the city’s price Park tank replacement project. So up at sunset Street in the golf course area, doing some work there to replace our existing treated water storage and distribution facility at that location. I have a brief presentation if you’re interested in it’s one that I given before. So you might have seen it if you’ve been involved, been in attendance at the public meeting, where the city presented earlier this year on this project Back to the public. You bet.

Unknown Speaker 30:05
You bet. Okay. So this, again, price Park tank replacement project, and we can jump to the next to the second slide once Heather gets it up and running.

Unknown Speaker 30:31
I’ll speak a little bit to the to the project scope of work for the project, some history on this site in general as relates to the water system. Some of the project benefits, we have some project plans and renderings that we can share with you all. I’ll discuss a little bit about the project schedule and some of the temporary construction impacts around that site today. And then be happy to answer your questions at the end. This graphic here on the on this introductory slide is a landscape rendering of what the facility will look like when we’re done actually have the same rendering later in the presentation. So I go over it in more detail in just a second. So the improvements that are included with this project are a new 8 million gallon, circular pre stress concrete water storage tank, a new troubling gallon per day pump station, an electrical building and emergency generator for that facility. And then some adjacent side improvements, some new fencing, some landscaping to buffer, the new facility, and then some irrigation system improvements around that area.

Unknown Speaker 31:42
What’s the existing capacity in a tank up there now?

Unknown Speaker 31:45
Sure. So the next slide shows the scope of work, which includes demolition of the two reservoirs that are there there today. There’s an existing 7 million gallon reservoir that was in service, and then an existing 2 million gallon reservoir that was not in service. So both of those are being demolished. There’s a pump station, actually at that site that has not been in operation for several years. It’s also been demolished, along with a few miscellaneous outbuildings and some limited tree removal. The existing water tower, so the elevated storage tank is not being impacted with this project. And then additionally, there’s some waterline replacements around the facility. So in Sunset Street and sunset circle, and then in Sunset pool parking lot to help replace some of the transmission lines and distribution lines that help feed water into and out of this particular site.

Unknown Speaker 32:41
A lot of people talk about that existing water tower, we just use it for antenna relations,

Unknown Speaker 32:47
basically. That’s right. So it’s it’s no longer in service. And as it relates to the water system. It hasn’t stored water for several years or decades. But it is still part of the city’s infrastructure as it serves as a communications tower for emergency operations. And it’s seen as a landmark by the community. So the next slide is a little bit of a history on this particular site price Park was once known as reservoir Hill. The first 2 million gallon reservoir was constructed in the late 1800s. And then subsequently 1922, the original 7 million gallon reservoir was constructed. And then in the 1940s is when that water tower, the elevated storage tank was constructed with a pump station and Z continued to grow from the original town to the north and to the west, there was a need there to provide some additional elevated storage for pressurized, pressurizing the distribution system. And in those new locations, and then in the 1950s, the original 2 million gallon reservoir was replaced in the late 1960s roofs were installed over those reservoirs. So you can see in the picture on the bottom right is likely the 2 million gallon reservoir. And again, these are reservoirs, so there’s storage below ground and then for water quality purposes, roofs were installed to keep out birds and other things. And so then, let’s see in the 1990s we we took that 2 million gallon reservoir offline also in the 1990s is when the water tower was no longer in service and the pump station was decommissioned. And then in 2015 is when the planning began for this project to start looking at replacement of these facilities. And then between now between then and now to 2021 it was designed and we started construction this year.

Unknown Speaker 34:49
Oh you’re heading but the the existing tank was finisher the new tank. What will the coverage of that will be a structure over at or

Unknown Speaker 35:00
It’s, it’ll be circular in shape, it’s partially buried, and I’ll have a domed roof over the top. So there’s some renderings that’ll show that, okay. So some of the benefits to the distribution system that will be able to protect and improve water quality for the entire city, be able to enhance the ability to meet current and future water demands, provide critical water service during emergencies and then significantly reduce the footprint of the facility which I’ll show in this I plan to speak in more detail.

Unknown Speaker 35:35
I also wanted to add it to the the background and blue tags that are being replaced, were at their core definitely do their lifecycle, and not likely to be able to continue passing the state’s inspections for our storage tanks. So that was that was coming to an end. That’s hence the water quality improvements.

Unknown Speaker 35:57
That as part of the water quality improvements. And some of the ideas behind increasing from the 7 million gallon to 20 million gallon storage facilities provide some additional storage not just for the area that this particular tank serves, but for storage for the entire city because there’s a new pump station that allows us to pump into some other higher pressure zones, which provide some redundancy for our distribution system and reduces some risks related to where some of our other storage is located and having the water into the city as a whole. Yeah, I think that’s the other little footnote on this slide is that this project was included back in the 2020. water bond that was approved by 80% of the voters. So this was one of those two projects, and in addition to the treatment plant expansion that were included with those, those costs.

Unknown Speaker 36:56
You know, you’re there’s a ton of new piping going on. And yeah, all right, what now? Is that necessary, replacing existing? Piping harder? What’s that all about?

Unknown Speaker 37:09
We have about 100 years of the city deciding how we’re live in operating our distribution system, due to growth and other factors. And so part of it is trying to separate out some of that piping away from an around the facility today. And as a part of the first phase of construction, so that we continue to move water into the city and through the city while then we can turn over sort of the rest of the site of the contractor for the next year to really focus on building the new reservoir pump station without having risk or impact into into how we’re moving water. So that was part of that that was waterlines that I mentioned. And, yes, there was a safe number in the parking lot in around this facility.

Unknown Speaker 37:57
A lot of that was Asian Infrastructure, too. So yeah. Yeah.

Unknown Speaker 38:03
So next slide. This is just an engineering engineering drawing of the site plan, it shows the circular tank there in the center in the dark gray, you can sort of see in the background, the aerial image, how that new facility fits within the footprint of the larger 7 million gallon reservoir. And then off to the left, or to the west of the tank is the new pump station, and electrical facilities and other appurtenances that are needed for the site. And but again, we’re reducing the footprint today and around the perimeter of the site, you’ll see that we’re sort of bringing that fence line in around this around this facility. And you’ll see in the next slide with the landscaping plan, how that opens up a little bit of buffer to the north and some green space. And so, Councilmember have had your hand up for a question. Yes. Yeah.

Unknown Speaker 38:54
Do you know what the power consumption in full operation of the pump station is?

Unknown Speaker 38:59
Oh, that’s a great question. Not off the top of my head. I do not.

Unknown Speaker 39:03
If you can, I’d like to know, I’m thinking about counting up all of the discretionary power consumers we have in the city. Okay, doesn’t have to run all the time. Right. That’d be

Unknown Speaker 39:15
a pretty infrequent operation, wouldn’t it? Josh, for the

Unknown Speaker 39:19
most part, so not necessarily so that pumps so in a broader picture, the city’s distribution setup as it is in three zones or pressure zones. And this tank serves our lower pressure zones zone one. So the tank just feed water down into zone one. This pump station is going to boost water back up into zone three. And the idea is that we would do that typically during peak demand season so that would be during the summer and during the irrigation season, which means it would run more often than during the summer. And whether or not there’s a need to run it in the winter. is yet to be determined. There may be a need to run it in the winter. Not yet. necessarily because of the demand and zone three, but to maintain water quality in that tank and turn over that water, because there’s not a lot of demand down in Zone One to do that on its own

Unknown Speaker 40:10
and in the summer, run most of the time or does it when something needs to be pushed?

Unknown Speaker 40:17
It’ll run when there’s a demand. So when something needs to be pushed,

Unknown Speaker 40:22
the cycle

Unknown Speaker 40:24
won’t run 24/7. Right? What’s the capacity 12 million.

Unknown Speaker 40:30
Our Skyline team currently operates that way early in the summer cycle on exactly for that reason that our system is by that is predominantly a gravity flow system all the way from the headwaters that we get our waters from down in through the city. In the past, we did way back gas water treatment plant in the summer months and had to lift that water with pumps off to the north thing. So ever since we’ve stopped monitoring that facility, we’ve had significant reduction in power usage. And the addition of this pump station and running Skyline still wouldn’t equate to how much we added once from that, which is point four, seven months. Thank you.

Unknown Speaker 41:26
So So again, this is just more of a detailed rendering of the landscaping plan. A couple things I’ll point out is there’s a designated Park price Park immediately to the east. By removing the 2 million gallon reservoir and pulling back the fence line open up some some open space there to the north of the tank. The area that sort of looks great to me in this in this picture is is turf grass, because of that park use, but the area that’s light green around the tank facility is native seating to try to reduce some of that water consumption within the facility. And then we have like I’ve mentioned before, we provided some some landscape planting trees and shrubs, to buffer the new facility from from the right away, whether that’s long P long speak Avenue or from the residential use to the north, some of those subdivisions. To also know there’s a there’s Zero Escape garden sort of to the northwest, it’s kind of like the little orange area on above the red x’s that will be maintained up in that area. And then I’ve mentioned before we needed to replace the irrigation system, there’s actually four separate irrigation systems at once work, you know, operative price Park versus what was inside the fence versus the sort of the boulevard for Long’s peak Avenue. And so we’re combining all those in the into one system to make it a little bit easier for park operations to maintain this area. And then last but not least, there are some mature trees, specifically the red x’s, we tried to limit how many needs to be removed, but they need to be removed in order to allow for construction of the new water lines and facilities. They’re actually probably growing over and around the existing water lines in facilities today, but might be why they’re so nice and healthy. Next slide. So this is a rendering of the new facility from sort of looking northwest from sunset Street at the intersection of Sixth Avenue. You can see the circular tank, there’s some architectural relief with brick pilasters and and then a domed roof that the domed roof is a function of it allows for not having pillars or columns on the inside of that reservoir, which can help reduce the long term maintenance cost in that facility. The next slide is another rendering sort of from the sunset circle neighborhood. looking west, you see the elevated tank and then in the background, the new ground storage tank and how that domed roof elevation sort of fits with the existing roof lines of the neighborhood. Again, the the tank is partially buried. So there’s there’s water storage below ground similar to what the reservoir did before. And then additionally, there’s some storage above ground, which is new, and will allow for some flexibility for the city to provide a little bit better pressure down to that zone one, which currently if they is teetering right on sort of our 5055 pounds pressure down in that zone above our benchmark.

Unknown Speaker 44:40
So the new water level is going to be higher than what you had before them.

Unknown Speaker 44:47
It’ll be above Existing Grade and it’ll be higher than what

Unknown Speaker 44:50
you had before did not go above.

Unknown Speaker 44:53
That’s correct. Next slide. So the project schedule I mentioned some of The planning have started in 2015 through through 2019 culinary design. And final design, we’re in 2021. We did this project out early this year, and awarded the contract in the spring. The contractor didn’t start work out on site until after Labor Day when these sunset pool closed. And we tried to allow some time between when we awarded the contract and started construction for material procurement. Given the current industry today and still been a challenge, but nonetheless, the construction duration is for 18 months. So that was a project completion in about March of 24. And they have started work out on site. I know you’re aware. It’s next next slide.

Unknown Speaker 45:54
Do you live in that area around you? I do. Yeah.

Unknown Speaker 46:01
These are some of the construction impacts. Again, we’re following standard work hours within the city 7am to 7pm limited work on weekends. Construction access is a challenge in this area. We’ve actually allowed the contractor to close the Westown lane of Long’s peak avenue for staging. We’ve temporarily widened the eastbound lane last week avenue for two way traffic and included some temporary pedestrian access down there as well. I talked a little bit about the waterline work. And there’s always an impact on customers when we’re connecting in new main sold names and some temporary shutdowns in that way. And then the last thing I want to notice the recreation facilities so the golf course and the pool will remain open. And Sunset Park and price Park will also mostly remain open all the time parks currently closed because we’re constructing a water main right through the middle, but it’ll be opened as soon as we’re done. Next slide. This was just a brief visual of what I just described where the staging is that that dark hatched area on the westbound of Long’s peak Avenue so that upper section of that road if you’ve ever driven it, and then the lower section on the eastbound was temporarily widened to allow for two way traffic. The next slide. That’s all I had in there today. So there’s some highlights of the work that’s going on. Again, we are under contract and the construction is underway. They’ve they’ve actually demolished the 7 million gallon reservoir. So that roof and all that work has been done. They’re given a lot of water on work right now in and around the facility. There’ll be some continued demolition through the winter, a lot of earthwork to bring in some fill in areas of that existing reservoir and then the new tank construction will happen through the spring and summer of next year. So you’ll start to see that come up and out of the ground along with some of the other ancillary items like the pump station electrical building and things like that.

Unknown Speaker 48:07
I know your construction for your for being challenged by a lot of people walking dogs. I mean, it’s a very popular place for people. And they’ve been very nice about it. I mean, I’m glad to hear that a lot of nerves are walking behind so that equipment but people stay away but it’s really your contractor

Unknown Speaker 48:28
guarding constructions the contract. Questions?

Unknown Speaker 48:36
Yeah, I feel compelled to ask Could you share your website?

Unknown Speaker 48:46
Yes, that I think the last slide show that we do have a website. These slides are up on Engage longline as well. We have a project hotlines of any other public out there has any concerns or notices anything they call the hotline that’s on this. There’s some signage out there as well it has that number and then my contact information

Unknown Speaker 49:05
Okay, and that’s about quarter, quarter acre, lots of the gray areas well, and

Unknown Speaker 49:34
I don’t know for sure they’re pretty good sized blocks.

Unknown Speaker 49:38
Okay. So just to clarify, this is going to be natural seating. This is gonna be sacrus. Yes, we’re adding in about an acre and a half of sod grass

Unknown Speaker 49:49
we are adding in sodroski and we know the total acreage

Unknown Speaker 49:53
just for water consumption purposes.

Unknown Speaker 49:58
You know, we work with natural resources and they do not have a master plan for Christ Park and Sunset Park. So price Park sort of is the designated area to the east. And then Sunset Park is that little facility up on a golf course clubhouse. They do not have a master plan yet. You know for ultimately those those two facilities, and we’ve talked with them about that, you know, long term, how does this new area integrate in with that. As an engineer, my sticking point is that’s Water Department property. And although we also don’t have a master plan, that might tell us what we need to use that for, we may need it sometime in the future for water purposes. And if we call it a park, we may not ever get that use back for water for water facilities. So we’ve had some of those high level conversations, but we didn’t we we opened it up for that use, I guess I should say, as a more it will become a more open area for the public use. One of the ideas that should provide sort of a cross connection, if you will, between sunset and the pool. Because right now, the only pedestrian access is really one sidewalk along Long speak Avenue. And if you’ve ever walked it in the previous condition that was really what happened people do is they just walk in Long’s peak because traffic volume is relatively low, but it’s really a four or five for the wide sidewalk that has bicycles and people walking their dogs and all kinds of time. So there was some thought about, you know, that area being available for better cross connectivity between sunset Street and the pool. But that doesn’t necessarily answer your question about you know, should it be solid, or should it be native, we did have that larger discussion, which is why we went with native on the interior.

Unknown Speaker 51:52
I wouldn’t say and also a couple things, I think they’re usually as an attempt to kind of match it with the surrounding area. And of course, the same type of term, I think, but I’ve, I’ve heard before too, that you have to be a little careful those natural grasses near a golf course, because that seemed migrates into that and then creates that wrong growth into it as well. I don’t know if that was a concern here. This is east, basically downwind of the golf course. So it shouldn’t be a big problem. But some areas, which buffer strips can cause those types, there’s

Unknown Speaker 52:30
sort of two other factors not only that, it shows up very well on that particular slide, but that area north of the new tank will be sloped, because the existing tanks sort of setup a little bit on the hill, compared to where the park elevation is. So it is a bit of a slope. And then again, that there’s some anticipated heavier use in that area, which might indicate the need for sod versus a native grass.

Unknown Speaker 52:55
Just we all talk a lot about it and then trying to encourage people to consider so I kind of wonder how grass would translate to others

Unknown Speaker 53:17
Yeah, it it’s a good question. It is thought inside the fence today. So footprints obvious different obviously different with two reservoirs and the limited amount of sand that isn’t there but it is solid inside the fence today and that hasn’t changed. So I’d be interesting to do the net calculation on how much additional size

Unknown Speaker 53:35
what was the timeline in terms of the turf restoration there

Unknown Speaker 53:40
right so the impacts to the two parks they’ll they will reach restoring those so that they’re getting can get it back up this morning. So this is about water monitor construction now which is why sort of this whole area is closed but I’ve asked them to repair this and repair the work done at sunset. So that so that this spring and summer those two areas are opened back

Unknown Speaker 54:09
up service now I want to kind of waffle in terms of what goes here

Unknown Speaker 54:13
oh, well no there is up here. Because today this is where the 2 million gallon reservoir sits and the contractor has been allowed to have the use inside the fence. So the fence line story here today. They’re gonna need all of this area for construction. So even once they demolish out the 2 million gallon reservoir you’re going to be with to construct these circular tanks there’s gonna be concrete casting beds on site and things in that area before this gets real landscape.

Unknown Speaker 54:43
Waste for a while

Unknown Speaker 54:45
it is it is the focus to just reopen up the park use as soon as possible. But not ends up if we could

Unknown Speaker 54:52
build a and then that there is still some

Unknown Speaker 54:55
time to make that decision. Yes,

Unknown Speaker 54:57
Joshua would that what would that do to the project? Project timing, you’d probably want to, were there that was going to be changed on recommendation. You’d want to know that by what a year from now, six months from now, yesterday.

Unknown Speaker 55:14
The sooner the better always in construction. But we do have some time. I think if we knew even by, you know, spring of this coming year, we could get that change implemented easy enough that, you know, it impacts things like the irrigation design. Yeah. And so that stuff that

Unknown Speaker 55:30
wouldn’t have been natural resources, I assume, kind of want to weigh in on how that was. They were

Unknown Speaker 55:35
they were involved with that original decision. I think it’s prudent to include him again.

Unknown Speaker 55:39
So if there’s a recommendation here, the sooner the better, and then we get that that natural resources,

Unknown Speaker 55:46
what would be the area approximately? In that area, like acres?

Unknown Speaker 55:54
Yeah, the one so I heard somebody say one quarter or one and a half acres is probably not a bad estimate. It’s probably at least an acre because the entire that landscape rendering sort of up took out one speak Avenue, that whole area is about five and a half acres. So again, I don’t have the exact number off the top of my head, but

Unknown Speaker 56:15
that’s why you’re asking about lot sizes. And because you were trying to

Unknown Speaker 56:19
puzzle of how many you can fit in there.

Unknown Speaker 56:22
Because acre and a half looks like you’d be pretty credible. gasps right. Yeah. Yeah.

Unknown Speaker 56:32
Okay, any other questions for Jack? All right. It really is. The existing kings, we’re going to kind of start ceasing to kind of meet regulatory requirements with respect to kind of water quality. Just out of my own kind of curiosity and interest, what are the types of things that start to show up and like those water quality tests, or what what types of parameters are the ones that start to kind of come out of spec with older tanks.

Unknown Speaker 57:13
So in this case, deteriorating concrete is always an issue. In this case, this tank had a liner in the bottom. And that liner was a membrane that has to be maintained with zero penetrations through it. And that’s really hard to do. And we were at the end of its life. So just to replace that, in that tank was not possible on the type of membrane we were using. So it was going to take a lot of change to the floor, and then some kind of surface closure membrane on top of that, and now you’re getting into the cost of building a new tank. For those types of items. It was it had doors that it shouldn’t have humans could enter the tank, which is never a good thing from the surface ground level. So those penetrations also were notorious areas for leaks, for air to get through, or critters to get through. So, so a lot of just deterioration on the whole structure. But in particular, the liner was a problem and was not going to be able to be replaced.

Unknown Speaker 58:30
And no one has masonry walls that are the vertical walls that support the roof. And so it’s more of a risk to water water quality than it was impacting water quality yet, but there were gaps in some of that masonry that was going to need to be repaired, right, and go around all the vertical walls and deal with grounding and things like that, that would have been, to a certain extent, new new walls.

Unknown Speaker 58:55
And allow last piece of it is that tank had a lot of dead spots in it. So you’d have stagnant water in areas just from the way it was designed. And so eliminating things like that are pretty important to us over time. John, thanks, Josh. Thank you, Josh. Thank you.

Unknown Speaker 59:25
Jason, sir,

Unknown Speaker 59:28
what do you have for us?

Unknown Speaker 59:29
I just got two quick updates for you. So I received him set plans for the VTR 112. That is our North eighth grade pipeline replacement project. And so that’s for that. It’s about 1917 1800 linear feet somewhere on their pipeline that needs to be replaced as part of that CIP. And that’s everything that’s basically within CDOT roadway and highway 66, just east of lines. And so I know the title at CIP is free placement, we’re we’re actually we’re actually going to replace the pipe where to run a CIPD liner through it. So long story short 100% plans for that we’re going to be starting in January next year, we’re going to start going up into that those funds are the projects fully funded, we’ve even had some additional flooding given the lb a cost from recent market conditions. So we feel confident, we should be able to go out there and do that, in the light of that we’ll be putting in that we’re gonna make that a an NSF approved winner. So it’ll be drinking drinking water standards, even though it’s on raw water. So there’s some some additional funding in there for that. And then the the other project we have going on, it’s not directly related to water resources, but it kind of is we’ve got the union reservoir inland bridge project that we’re doing. And so the initial plan was, I don’t know if you’ve been out there recently, but it’s you know, we’ve got the culverts and the inlet channel. And that’s really just it’s it’s falling apart, it’s not very safe, you don’t get some more quality issues with that. It just, it’s one of those things where sooner or later, it’s going to fail some missing border. So we’re going to install a bridge. And that bridge actually will be able to incorporate that bridge, if we get some funding and move forward with the reservoir and marketing project, because it will be able to pick that bridge up in you know, raise the abutments up and reset it down so that it’s going to that construction starts in January. And it’s a lot it’s expected to last about two months, and the bridge will be ready in April. And so once the bridge is on location, we’ll literally set it down. And

Unknown Speaker 1:01:47
not always. Is there a date for rent or an argument or that we’ve discussed,

Unknown Speaker 1:01:57
it’s something that’s been discussed, we have it in our CIP is an unfunded project. But it’s something that we don’t every six years and we’re diligence case on and there is some NRCS funding that the st. Greylock and Water Conservancy District has put in for a potential I think like 25 million. So, you know, should we be awarded that? Or Should there be the potential of us getting the work that what might be a 20 year project might end up being a five year project? So I have no idea what the odds of us seeing that grant funding is, but it’s it’s probably in the top five

Unknown Speaker 1:02:44
questions. By the way, are two minutes. So last week, we presented to city council, the council communications that we presented to you all last month, overall, it was really well received, they expressed interest in our landscape standards. Heard the conversations we’ve been having for the last year probably, especially for the public, roadways and arterioles. There, we talked a little bit about the the public arterial spaces that are maintained by private organizations such as HOAs, or businesses, and then the city pays for that water. And so that was brought up. So that’s definitely something that we want to make sure that we’re studying in our efficiency Master Plan update, just kind of ways to approach that moving forward. We talked about population and not to use specific number and our population projection. And so potentially looking at scenario planning, the Colorado state water plan uses scenario planning and they’re fine as well. So I think we would be encouraged to pursue that. Obviously, we would have to work with the accounting department in that sense of other people. But I think that’s what’s important about where we want to go is collaborative and cross departmental collaboration on all of our goals, especially in our articles. So yeah, it was really well received or excited about it. And then they also asked the question, which is kind of in waterboard as well, about efficiency versus conservation, and why are we using for the definitions? And so I did some digging and the Colorado Water Conservation Board, which is the entity that requires us to do these efficiency master plans. Put out a definition for us And for the purposes of this plan, conservation measures and programs are replaced with water efficiency activities. So we’re using efficiency to encompass conservation for the purposes of these plans. I don’t know that we’ll do that programmatically or internally within the city of Longmont, but for our efficiency master plan, purpose, that’s what we will use. So we will use them basically interchangeably for the purpose of our plan.

Unknown Speaker 1:05:35
So it’s still a little circular? Yeah. You can’t say efficiency without saying efficiency and the definition? Yes. We are communicating water heaters have the detection capability, or water system of detection? So we don’t use it. Right.

Unknown Speaker 1:05:55
Correct. Yeah, so that’s part of it, I’ll let you speak to this too. But but you have our new water meters do but we don’t have the program yet. And so that’s one of the big projects I’m working on actually is figuring out how to do it manually until we can get basically the software to be communicating from years and years to

Unknown Speaker 1:06:16
that is the replacement program driven by remote reading.

Unknown Speaker 1:06:27
And those the ability to do detect other information from the meters, we have not really advertised to our customers, and we’re using the meters to retrieve other data other than totalization data. But we do we do look to see if there’s a backflow on the meter, which would be really critical information and, and leak detection. But it’s a little hit or miss right now it’s mostly based on investigation where we either hear a problem or we think there’s a problem then we’ll go back and look at the data. But yeah, eventually we should be able to have all leaders reporting into a central database anytime they see 24/7 flow through the meter right would be some indication that you probably have a leak or an appliance that’s using it more than it should and then then reverse for those of you who have two critical pieces of information besides the billing information

Unknown Speaker 1:07:35
like you told you I keep it on a timestamp

Unknown Speaker 1:07:42
was about really your fault

Unknown Speaker 1:07:49
blaming you won’t.

Unknown Speaker 1:07:51
You are interested. It’s great.

Unknown Speaker 1:07:55
Okay, when the Yep, yeah.

Unknown Speaker 1:07:56
Yeah. So I’m gonna cheat a little bit today and actually just show you the presentation. Normally our staff gives the winning guest participants committee I was really it was a really good one this year so you’re heading so just a quick update on so I’ll start with this photo just because I really think this is a cool photo is actually middle of the night. They’re fully operating 24 hours a day. So that so much work to do. You can really see the site lit up at night and of course you can see long North Denver on the right lobe London on the left side of that kind of kind of a neat perspective of the project. Most important part of courses were with the dam, you can see on this photo on the right, this is where the cost of the dam had been over excavated 4550 feet well existing ground to get down to competent Rocky and get the plant started and everything going. If you look this is looking towards the east right abutment. This is the steep side of the reservoir site. This is very steep as you get up here. This part of the plant is completely done now and then switched over and they’re working on the west side of it, which is still a lot of work to build. They’re still fairly steep but but this was the really critical part. So good to see that. If you look Eric the bottom 42 feet of the dam has already been cut. started. So that’s not insignificant. This on the left is a photo of the actual machine, the lay down. This, this particular machine lays both a Dalek asphalt core, which you’re seeing here in the middle, as well as the

Unknown Speaker 1:10:23
sandy rock news on each side, the buttresses that contains the gospel, and then on the right side that are each side of that, and you can see the rockfill. In here, you can see the rockfill out here, as well as out here. So 42 feet is a really great start. And that’s going well, this is the actual rockfill process that have these 777 drops, or six of them fully in use 24 hours a day, they got another string commerce, so the team plan for the whole project. So that’s, that’s one of the largest trucks you can get. So that’s a lot of a lot of material being moved. This is the looking at the very, very west side, looking down, this is the West left about this is the part of the planet that still needs to be constructed. But for the most part, it’s it’s nearly done. Once the plant is down, then they start drilling through to grout. So about 40% of the grout curtain has been constructed, they’re doing it at the bottom and really decides to stay out of the construction. So grounding is going well. And then as far as the water deliveries, the conduit will come out of Carter CVD buying up on the top of pole Hill west of the project, that will on down to the control house. tie in to the CBD systems all done, including valve that has to shut off the water. So it doesn’t come out of the CBD system. That had to be really carefully controlled timewise with the Bureau of Reclamation, who shut down the main shutdown the CVP system to do maintenance on the CDP system, and it had to get done before they were done. And that did happen. So that’s good. This is one of them. I believe that’s control of the upper valve house inlet and outlet tunnel actually looks like a tunnel now, you probably saw the pictures earlier on when they were going in the header and just starting, you know, this is a 40 foot tall wall there at the bottom so eagerly in November is 24/7 present complete, they’re now they’re now getting close to the Valve Chamber and they’re starting to just now starting to come in from the upstream side. So they’ll bring those two vowels together. This is just where the interconnect was on Bald Mountain. This was there was an interesting this is if you’ve ever been up to fight with reservoir speak all rattlesnake reservoir, this is where the water comes out of the reservoir into the pole Hill tunnel through Bodell before it gets to the to the power conduit above the flatter reservoir, this is what they had shut they have drained the reservoir down so you to just get out one small leak in the actual CBD side of the system. virtually be repaired but it wasn’t it wasn’t repaired as part of this. And this is at the base of the dam. If you’re standing on the dam looking north down on the downstream side, go to the left you go up to work up the hill to where you can back to the CBD pipeline. If you go to the right this is where the pipeline will connect to the conduit that goes from the flutter reservoir and powerplant up to Carter lake so this is if you look here, there’s there’s a pipe was up here Carter lakes on the other side of this ridge goes up the hill and into the bottom of Carter Lake and water actually comes out a lot of cargo and it fills car like this you will be interconnected so that there’s a real problem with a flat iron power plant. And it has to be shut off to get out that there’s three units in there. One of the three is a reversible turbine pump up or deliver water down and generate electricity. That moolah 10 years ago or so we were out of water, putting a watery guard. Luckily Carter had water in it or we wouldn’t have been happy. But that was recognized as a weak spot on the RCP system. So this will allow water to come out to the hall angle and all by gravity to do Carter Carter’s down and Jimmy just redundancies that he’s starting, and then the excavated on the downstream side. Down valves. So this is where all the water we control. Coming down from the West, you can see the penstock for the flat our power plant here, we are here to double the hills or this pipe will come out and come down here. And then the water can either go from here into that. Connecting bipod we just saw with guard Lake, where it will go from here into the pipeline through the inlet outlet tunnel into the chimney. So this is the main workhorse one of the projects just you know, just starting to activation just getting going. Hopefully that’ll be started as well. One of the one, I guess we’ll call it a completed item is that this is a picture of the road we’ll go around the west side of the reservoir starts up on the county road, it’ll go around wildlife waterway, run through the west side of the reservoir third in the south side of the reservoir. This will be the road for doing all maintenance on the reservoir as well as the saddle down on the south side. And it also will provide access to Larimer County, recreational facilities and constructors or the reservoir. Just some of the key milestones the federal gas wall started October 13. The access road was pleated November 16. And last placement. Then hopefully out the car late interconnect done. Next screens, which is pretty soon. One thing I did want to show here is this is the in an ideal world, the blue line was the expected expenditure line. So if you’re one way of one way is monitoring the construction and others monitor the expense expenditures, this, this would have crossed the school as expected, this red line is where we really are actually are right now, which is pretty good. And the orange line is kind of the lowest, the slowest expenditure which both both lines end up getting about the same time. So as long as we’re in between those two, original contract amount of 45 million to date of change arrives at 26 million. So the current construction contract is 511 million. And earn today is 127 million. So about 25% expenditure at this point done, which is basically on target and doing well. The 26 million Change Overs. As all the ones we’ve talked about the rock, the additional rockets, it’s going in heavier and tighter, which means that better I feel down but it’s going to be a little more rock. There was a little bit extra excavation on that to get down to competent bedrock. And just a number of different things, as of course was on all of those changes are well within contingency amount that has already that was budgeted and is already up to northern water, which kind of leads back to our cash position. Right now, they’ve also looked at future potential change orders or anything they can see and we’re Go ahead, sufficient funds, although it’s pretty close, projecting, that we may fully utilize the contingency funds. Artists right now particularly more, one thing that is I’ll call it additional was the costs due to the federal lawsuit. So that’s $2.4 million was a cost for delay of the construction due to the federal lawsuit.

Unknown Speaker 1:20:35
That that’s contractor costs, not the selling cost. That amount. So far, that amount, was kind of I’ll call it paid out was included in contingency, but because of contingency fund probably will, we’ll cover that northern water is looking at asking the participants to pace separately, so to speak, for the change order amount for the lawsuit. So they’re looking around to do going forward, my guess would be that people are thrown in, which was an actual change order that was approved at the time and settlement of the federal lawsuit. If that happens, that will be an on top of what we’ve already been in 34,000, some 7.5 or an 80, yard horse portion. That’s the entire projects. So we’ll probably be asked for that. We’ve asked, Hey, let us know before budgeting, we’ll actually probably collect the money till 24 is asking to give us you know, if we’re going to collect it, let us know so that we can put it in our 23 budget. So that then I guess really we’ll have the conversations. Hopefully, we’ll have we’ll have never by the large cash flow, because if that’s the case that we can have that conversation, do we want to? And then of course, the more I believe in policy decision within the board, do we charge the developer for federal lawsuit? Is that, you know, we ascribe that to the cost of the project, probably so I think so. But that’s, that’s a conversation once we get that number. So that’s that, because that’s a little bit of a different read on where that is. Request. certainly hoped that the remainder of the project and the expected change orders will get us over what the original project van costs and

Unknown Speaker 1:23:01
that’s kind of where we are right now.

Unknown Speaker 1:23:07
And this is just a copy of the actual executed change orders to date. Both already already. A second because I like these photos. I don’t know why. They’re just really impressive. The

Unknown Speaker 1:23:33
first one shows Dale flying to Cancun and that did it come back? Not coming back. us back

Unknown Speaker 1:23:50
questions. Our presentation. Those costs, I assume, spread through the participants based on percentage of what they spread that way. So

Unknown Speaker 1:24:07
yeah, it’s really I mean, we’ve gotten that result just pays for allergies.

Unknown Speaker 1:24:20
All right, very good. You know, one thing I always ask somebody Joe Public wanted to get a view. Is there a public play up on the hill and you’re pointing that out and way up on top? There’s some kind of access is that true or not? There is a property

Unknown Speaker 1:24:43
or Yeah, so there is a worthy goal. Jimmy overlook. One of the properties of on the east side, basically on the Hill between Carter and Jimmy Hello. There’s a property that came all the way down the side And you came in came up for sale, so purchased by the project, because it actually what have you bought anyway, that it’s been turned into an overlook. It actually used to work they had a few tours last fall, but the road was in such bad shape that they shut it all down and the rebuilding the road. And then once it’s done next spring, they’re going to reopen for tours so public can get a tour go up and overlook that. You can see some of this actually just went up the county road. Just drive off the county road from bladder and reservoir. Park on the side of the road, take a look. You can see it from the distance but the overlook on the east side is the best. There are no invalid tours anyone that just because of the construction. One of those trucks will finish as a demonstration they squashed.

Unknown Speaker 1:26:00
So sometimes they’ll be reopening, they’ll be

Unknown Speaker 1:26:03
reopening and people will be able to urge everybody look at the website during the holidays. Because you can see all the pictures to actually be able to sign up

Unknown Speaker 1:26:19
All right, moving on. Items from the board any department items as scheduled procedures. We’re reading the comments about that and that basically unchanged. Yeah.

Unknown Speaker 1:26:33
We’ll just be coming probably a January was.

Unknown Speaker 1:26:44
11 informational items on and I can see what are tentatively scheduled for future board meetings. So all right, any other comments before we adjourn? Everybody having a holiday okay, we’re not

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