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The Humanize Podcast

S1E5: Is Racism Normalized?

Are we actually ALL racist? What would the country be like if we all owned that? Would we act differently? Would we be able to move toward change quicker? On today’s episode, Courthney and Emily are exploring this question, why America has such a hard time accepting our history in order to make change moving forward, and how to start moving toward a community that is working towards empowerment in dismantling systems of oppression.


We’re digging into:

  • The difference between prejudice and racism
  • Breaking the bootstrap mentality
  • Why we need to change our baseline assumption to really create change
  • Emotional labor and how to meet each other half way
  • The thing that has been in the fiber of the creation of this country and why it stands in the way of change
  • What you can do as a white person to start being part of the movement (and what NOT to do)
  • The layers of normalization that need to happen to dismantle the system of oppression
  • What’s MORE powerful than reactionary activism
  • And more!

Resources we mentioned:


Great women to follow on Instagram. If you learn from them, please pay them for their work through Venmo. Most have links to give donations through their IG linktree:









The Willie Lynch Letters & The Making of A Slave, by Willie Lynch

Stamped: Racism, Anti-Racism and You, by Jason Reynolds and Ibram X Kendi

Post Traumatic Slave Syndrome: America’s Enduring Legacy of Injury and Healing, by Dr. Joy DeGruy


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