Water Advisory Board – January 2025

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Water Advisory Board – January 2025

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The Water Advisory Board meeting in January 2025 covered several key updates and decisions. The flow rate at 8am was 25.8 CFS, below the 125-year historic average of 14.5 CFS. Reservoir storage levels were noted, with Button Rock at 63.82 feet and Union Reservoir at 18.4 feet. Sean Cronin from the Left Hand Water Conservancy District presented their programs, highlighting a 200-250% return on investment in 2025 and a 700% return in 2024. The board approved the designation of the city’s website for meeting notifications. The city’s Beck with Change Case is progressing, with potential water benefits of 200-300 acre feet. The next meeting is scheduled for February 24, 2025.

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Order. Yes. Tom duster here, Scott Holbeck here, Roger Lang here, Renee Davis here, Dan Wilford here, Ken Houston here, West Lowry here, Kevin Bowden here, hope Bartlett here, Alex merklein Here, Nicole Halpin here, Chris Huffer here, Heather McIntyre is here. We do not have a council liaison right now, but we also have with us Sean Cronin and Scott creepling from left Saint brain, left hand, Water Conservancy District.

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The liaison is that yet to be decided? Yes, they haven’t done that yet.

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Okay, very good. I have approval of any questions on or comments about previous months minutes. So if not as Can I get a motion to approve? Dan, yeah, second, second, all in favor.

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Sure support

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the flow on the same frame this morning, at 8am was 25.8 CFS. The 125 year historic average is approximately 14 and a half CFS for the state. Currently, the South Platte River and the sand dune Creek are operating under free river conditions with no calls on the same green at this time. Button rock is currently at an elevation of 63, 82.6, approximately 12,616 acre feet in storage, which is about down 17, just over 17 feet over 3500 acre feet. Union reservoirs in a gage height of 18.4 feet, or 6632 acre feet in storage, and that’s down approximately 6000 acre feet from full basin. Reservoirs at the end of December were 59.8% of full last year. At this time, the reservoirs were 75% 75%

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Thank you. Okay to

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be heard. We don’t have any. We have special presentation, though, just

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like to introduce John Cronin that’s got a grieving with the same granite left out. Water Conservancy District give us an update on our programs for the year, and we partner with them and a lot of different things. So Sean, I’ll let you give it a shot. Thank you, Ken.

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Our internet went down tonight this afternoon with next slide, I left them a message I didn’t know, and actually walked past their office on the way we leave here. You hear yelling. We didn’t have internet today anyway. Let’s talk water Next slide, please. Or do I have control? We can control. Okay, so those of you who are not familiar with st Brennan, left hand Water Conservancy District, our district our district boundaries from the west are the continental divide. So the left side of that map, where you see the brown is Rocky Mountain National Park. All the green, dark green is federal forest service land, while wild wilderness area. Then as you go east into Longmont, past union reservoir, past I 25 all the way to the confluence of the South Platte. So all in all, about 300,000 acres. There are about 50 Water Conservancy districts across Colorado. It got created out of the conservancy act in 1937 we were created in 1971 all the conservancy districts largely have the same purpose out of the Act, which includes education, water quality protection and legislation. We all have a taxing authority. And as you all well know, we were on the ballot a few times over the last few years, in 2016 2020 and again in 2024 and then there’s a board of directors. We each Conservancy District has a different number of Board of Directors. We happen to have nine, and director Woolford is on our board. We adopted a water plan in February 2020, something. We’ve come to this board and discussed in the past, and from that plan, we came up with what we call our five pillars. And so you gotta protect water quality and drinking water. Sources, safeguard and conserve water supplies, grow local food, store water for dry years, and maintain healthy rivers and creeks. And that’s sort of our guiding principles in terms of how we administer our programs. As I mentioned earlier, we have been on the ballot. This is the results. The far right is the 2016 and that was what’s called Deep bruising, where the voters said, go ahead and maintain the tax the mill that you have at the time. And then in 2020 we asked to increase that mill with a 10 year sunset. And then in 2024 went back to the voters and said, Hey, would you allow us to keep that sunset in place perpetually past 2030 and so you see the results there, 84% saying yes on the extension. Something. Again, we’ve reported to this board in the past, we had adopted a stream management plan. We actually have a meeting coming up with many in the basin, including your staff coming up in the next few weeks, but it has these basic initiatives which many in the area are interested in having management activities done, which was flow management, habitat restoration, water quality improvements and infrastructure you structure. One idea that came out of those pillars is the use of additional storage. So we’ve come up with a unique way called Creek improvement facilities, where we look at existing storage off channel, look through additional exchanges, the dead storage that might exist in existing reservoirs, and how can we regulate those and manage those in such a way that we deal with environmental flows, which rolls back to that stream management plan we’ve also incorporated with the funding that was voted for in 2020 and again in 2024 what We call our partner funding program, which is used to leverage the district’s dollars against other projects. You’ll see city of Longmont there on the bottom left, we participated in a conservation program and many other partners where we’re doing good work and leveraging the district’s dollars with other federal and state grants. So all in all, we’ve seen the bottom graph there. In 2025 we had a 200 over 250% return on investment. In 2024 700% return on local dollars that were leveraged with other grant funds, as I mentioned earlier, the pillars that the District uses to administer the programs. Here is highlighted in colors each of the years and each of those pillars so that partner funding program is well utilized. Similarly, here’s the red is the district map, so each of the blue dots represents a partner funding program. Some of the partner funding programs have multiple geographies, so it might be duplicated on there. But really what this is intending to demonstrate is we are diverse in how we spend that money, across the district boundaries and all the different pillars, as I mentioned earlier, being being executed. One thing that is beneficial to many of the ditches which, long on, has an interest in, is really looking at making those next generational upgrades. So this is working with the supply ditch company on addressing some trouble spots, and we’re launching a program this year to do that at good number of ditch company space and line. Skip over this one for time. Another one that I think Longmont is very keen and interested in is fire mitigation projects. And not only are we investing dollars up towards the button rock reservoir, but also throughout the basin, and then we work with hope and your staff on turf replacement program, and we had also funded a zero demonstration garden. This one is certainly of interest to a lot of folks, including Longmont, for for decades, or many decades, have been interested in how water is diverted out of South Saint grant creek down to left hand Creek. The ditch company actually approached us and said, Would you be interested in helping us fund or funding and automation that would actually tighten up the water delivery from same grand Creek to left hand Creek. So we gladly funded that, and that’s been in place and been yielding some good results, another one that is of interest to the community, especially here in Longmont, as well as passage projects, where we look at existing diversions and figure out a way that we could I. Sediment or past fish. This is off of left hand creek where they have truck loads, plural of sediment, that they haul out regularly throughout the year, not just annually, but regularly. So they’re very interested in a project that would not only reduce that sediment load, but out past fish during certain periods of time. So we are co leading that with the watershed Center, our local nonprofit watershed group. My turn this over to you. Yeah.

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So one of the big ways that we are hoping to fund some of these projects and others is through the NRCS is PL 566, program. It’s their watershed program. I believe we’ve spoken the group on this, presented to you on this in the past. There are several projects that the city of Longmont is the co sponsors are on and kind of leading on that the district is helping to facilitate through the funding process with any big federal funding process, we are learning as we go, and it is taking longer than maybe originally thought or originally communicated. So we’re kind of have several groups of projects, and we are moving them through the process at different phases, and we’ll keep everyone posted as we move along. And city, city staff has been really helpful and giving us the information we need so that we can then make those presentations and those that available to the NRCS, it’s just real quickly to the it’s to the tune of $240 million worth of projects across the district. So really unique opportunity to leverage the watershed program to bring a lot of funding for a number of different types of projects in the district. Couple other projects I wanted to highlight. One is our Aso, our airborne snow observation

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project, and

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it is using LiDAR, mounted, or airplane mounted LiDAR, to measure snow pack across the basin. This is a map showing the snow towel sites that we have in our area, kind of across Colorado. What ASO does is it provides, instead of just three measurements, in this case, incredibly, on a three meter by three meter basis, snow depths across the whole basin. Really cool program, it calculates the actual snow water equivalent, instead of snow tail sites give a percent of normal which is really useful, and it’s a time series. But what this does is actually measures the sweet volume, the water volume in the snow pack, and it also shows you how that water, how that snow pack, is accumulated throughout the basin. So you can compare different basins, different tributaries. You can compare different aspects, different elevation bands. As we fly these flights, we are just learning more and more ways that this data can be used to help inform water management decision

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making. How often do you do the flights? So the

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flights, because they’re really expensive, are we’ve been able to do one per year for the last two years, and we’ll have another one planned this year. You shoot for a round peak snow pack. This fight was May 21 because the weather that year was so cloudy, there wasn’t a good flight window until later in the month or later in the season. This year, we’re shooting for sometime late March or April.

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Scott, can I interject? So one thing that relatable to Longmont is the technology is continuing to advance, as Scott mentioned, and apparently they make the lasers a little smarter over time. And so one thing that we were not necessarily expecting, but we got last year was they could actually tell the temperature of the snow when they shoot that. And so it’s one thing to know.

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Oh, sorry. Real quick, we’ll get back to that. Does

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it measure thunder? Yeah,

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exactly. That steals it from this is just an example of the report, and I can’t remember if we send these to you automatically. If not, I’m happy to once we get the flights in. Shows, you know, the quick overview of where the sweet where snow hack is accumulated, and how much there is. There’s also some forest health applications and, oh, I didn’t include it shall see, yes. So it also does there. It’s actually not a direct measurement, but they use a number of tools to model what the snow pack temperatures and how close to melting it is. So snow crap. Snow pack can be very, very cold. Um. Um, right now it’s probably really cold. After the last several weeks of cold weather last year, especially into March, it was pretty warm, and like right on the cusp of melting. What that means is you get a string of hot days, you get a lot of solar radiation, and that snowpack can melt quickly. And so there was concerns about even localized flooding from snow melt, which is not a regular occurrence, but might become a more regular occurrence as climate shifts and and all that. So we were able to reach out to some emerging emergency management folks with the reports and say it looks like this could be something to be aware of. And just to kind of give them an extra heads up before other forecasts made before they actually saw the water coming down the creek.

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So the lot, the city, Longmont Emergency Management appreciate that information. I don’t know that they messaged any differently, but they said, we have we weren’t aware of that information. So thanks for listening.

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Yeah, so this, this sounds like a big consortium kind of thing. I mean, is this like a private company that is running this in long line, or, I’m sorry, Conservancy District is part of a group.

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That’s a great question. So it’s a statewide effort. The Colorado Water Conservation Board is is leading a kind of loose collaboration of entities that are making these flights happen. We are leaving the local the Northern Front Range flights, which covers from Clear Creek all the way up through the Middle Fork of the pooter. And we’ve banded together to make the surveys more cost effective, because you can kind of group different watersheds, and we get support from municipalities kind of all throughout that area, as well as Northern Water Conservancy. Okay, thank you. And the state is the hardest piece to those ASO flights is the cost. It’s about $700,000 to do those one flight for that that area. So the Colorado Water Conservation Board is contributing the bulk of the funding. This year, we are looking for more state and federal funding or sustainable funding sources, because we really believe this is the direction that snowpack monitoring needs to go to provide the type of insight into how, how to manage that essentially the largest reservoir that we have another kind of area related to snowpack is our cloud seeding program, or our snowpack enhancement, as we like to call it. So we have two generators on the east slope here that seed the st green basin. One is located just outside of lions, or the others just outside of nywah. And they are pretty simple. You can see the trailer up there, and the generator is actually just kind of like a propane burner, almost that the silver iodide, which is the seating agent, is injected into the process is, you know, when we get storms that have the right wind and moisture conditions and everything and temperature conditions, usually storms coming from the east to the west. So you get a strong upslope wind. We turn on our generators. The silver iodide is released into the storm. It’s carried up into the cloud deck, mixed with the the liquid water that is not yet frozen. It’s super cooled, so it exists below freezing. But because water can go down to as low as negative 15 before it actually is forced to freeze, the seeding agent speeds along or helps facilitate that freezing and snowflake formation process. So that’s kind of what you’re seeing here.

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When’s the last time you’ve done seeding?

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We I think we kicked on the generators for this past storm for a few hours. We have the consultant that operates our program has a meteorologist, so I get a personalized weather report for all the storms that come through, telling me exactly what the wind is going to do, when the snow is going to fall, and kind of what their plan is to operate each one. So that’s pretty cool. A big question with cloud seeding is, does it actually work? This is a reference. It’s an image from a research study that was done up in Idaho. And it’s really, it’s, I won’t get into the details, but what it’s showing is they’re able to use radar to actually detect a signal from cloud seeding. Cloud signal has been known to work in a the physics of it are clearly understood and known, and it works in a laboratory environment. But proving the impact that you produce from cloud seeding in a natural environment over a large watershed is really challenging. The research is finally getting to the place where it can be showing specific. Typically the impact. And we’re working with the researchers on this to use some modeling research to determine what the impact is for our seating efforts. So excited about that as well. And this is where the generators are. This was last year’s season about 100 hours of operation, and the runoff estimates you saw there were about 1000 to maybe 4000 acre feet increase depending on what the actual efficiency was, which is, there’s a little bit of a guesstimate thing. What’s that? Are we working on the third site we are working on putting in a third generator on the Green Lake site to capture storms coming from the west going to the east. This is just a quick picture of kind of what typical generator dispersion looks like over our watershed and costs. So for the first year, operations and equipment costs. The equipment was purchased by the cwcd. So that’s the total cost for one year of operations, future year of operations. That cost comes down because we’re just paying the operating costs. When you look at it on a acre foot basis, it gets really, really affordable. And that’s one of the large drivers here is that it’s even with all the uncertainties involved in the process on an acre foot basis, it’s pretty cost effective. That’s all I have. Anything else that you wanted that,

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no, just the temperature thing.

21:40
Well, thank you. Happy to answer questions. Thanks for letting us give you an update. Any questions?

21:51
Dan, I’m good.

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Well. Thank you for your presentation. Thank you. I i do that.

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Okay?

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Any agenda revisions have none, okay, well, our activity looks

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very sparse, so move on to general business.

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We need to propose

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a designation for a post replacement board meeting, and the one that in our agenda has been suggested. Any comments on the proposed location at all

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we’re happy with somebody make a motion accepted.

23:06
Sure I’d make that motion to designate the city’s website as the official posting place for the Water Board public meeting notifications with the bulletin board located at the west entrance of the civic center lobby as the secondary physical location for posting. And as always, feel free to contact West Lowry. That is official number or his official email address

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still working. Now we’ll see

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there a second Scott’s motion. Second. All right. All in favor. Say,

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aye. I think very good. Okay,

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yeah, we’ll be happy to do that normally. I have to try to show you a few pictures. There aren’t any new pictures to show. So I’ll just give you a quick update to be realized, the projects on a semi hold right now, the the main dam, hydraulic asphalt core contractors from Switzerland, and so he let all his folks go home for the Christmas holiday for two weeks. You can understand that. And then, and then, about the time they would have fired up again, the cold weather had wouldn’t have really impacted the hydraulic asphalt core, because the cold weather actually makes it set a little faster, so they can actually put it down a little more, but it did unfortunately impact the rock fill portion of the dam. We’re starting to get some frozen clumps of rock fill that. On from the from the quarry pits, so they had to wait until you get just a tiny bit more weather. So the actual dam itself was put on a little bit of hold originally. Of course, you would have thought that the dam would have been the critical path. But it’s, it’s, actually was a little bit ahead of schedule. It only has 68 days to complete it, so they’ll easily be able to finish, hopefully be able to finish the dam right now. Actually, the critical path is all the electrical partially because it took a little longer than anybody had a vision to get the valve house approved for construction through Larimer County, the building permit sound construction of valve houses so that that’s now the kind of critical path the outlet tower in the dam had two pores, I think they’re up about 20 to 30 feet, so it’s starting to look like an outlet tower. So that’s going well. So the one thing that, even though the hydraulic asphalt, the actual height of the dam, is not going up right now, the critical part of all that was getting the rock quarried, they were struggling with that more than anything else, and the rock coring process and crushing pressures is still going on and so that that will get a little bit ahead of the rest of the operation, and which will keep it going faster when they start up again. So the we talked before the valve that had to be shipped back to Germany with some buzz then repackaged and put back on a ship it should be about now in Houston. So we’re hopeful that that Val will come in this week and her ship to the construction site next week. So all of that seems to be going pretty well. Hopefully. And

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hopefully, hopefully we’ll be back under full construction. So schedule wise, no break scheduled.

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No no, it’s yeah, no no, it’s on schedule. And still, still planning to be done this summer, in fact, looking now when to schedule, but looks like we’ll schedule some first fill By late summer. Obviously, there’s currently sufficient water in the CBD system, and we’re hoping to be able to pump a little bit of windy gap, and so we should be able to get some water in the reservoir starting this summer. So hang on. Hopefully have some ribbon schedules. That is a report on that any

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comments or questions for Ken? Alright? Thanks again. Okay, what else?

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Yeah. So I wanted to just give water board an update on our Beck with Change Case. Water city staff, through its legal counsel, filed in October. Change of the remaining shares of the Beck with DISH company, as board may recall. In 1987 the city of Longmont changed its then ownership, which was a little less than 50% of the company. And since that time, we’ve received ownership of almost 100% there’s still a couple outstanding shares, but those outstanding shareholders have given their consent to include it in their in this case, so we put that through in October, objectors had two months to respond to that. We had a total of eight statements of opposition to that. So we’ll be working through those different working with those different objectors, to understand what their questions and concerns are, obviously, to get those addressed. Think we have a status conference on that coming up here next week or or so, which is very common. So once that case is finalized, it’ll be good for a long month. As you may recall, the Bedford is one of the most senior water rights in the basin, which is probably why it receives some attention. And also, thanks to Scott, I’ll be giving his cell phone number,

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but it will, it will give long mod some, some added water when it needs it. So it’s the we’ll see what happens with our negotiations, with the with the different objectors. But that was a pretty big effort. That was a took a lot to put that together. One I’ve been working on that for years, and so to finally be able to get that done, or to this point, I think, was quite an accomplishment, so hopefully we can continue to report as we move forward and get that done. So I just wanted to hit that and then if anyone have any questions, specifically trying to answer

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you saying additional how much water are you talking about?

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It’s how hard it is to work with the people that are, if probably in a real rounded number, 200 300 acre feet depends what the final yield is on a per share basis, and depends on the the hydrology of that year. It would depend on if we used it, put it into storage, as opposed to renting it, putting it for direct flow, but a few 100 acre feet, but it’s because it’s so senior, you could kind of think of it as being there pretty reliably, not a lot. But for now, until we hit some planning horizon that could add up to quite a bit of water.

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Was it the county, the school district, major shareholders at one

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point in time, the ones that were not, yeah, so there’s two developers that own a share each, and then the Albertsons and the Safeway Coronavirus organization have owned two shares, so total of four outstanding of the 217 that Walmart doesn’t have. But we’re hopeful to have full ownership of all 100% this year. We’ll see.

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Thanks, thanks.

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How are you doing? By the way, I’m good, good. Thanks,

32:30
doing good, just trying along. We presented the updated water efficiency plan to council a couple of weeks ago, and they accepted the latest update. So we’re currently in our final draft processing process, and we’re adding any additional comments or edits from that are applicable to the latest update. So we should have a final product for you all to review in the next month or so, and and then we’ll be submitting it to the state for final approval. And then once it’s approved, it goes on file for seven years. It will be our guiding plan for the conservation program for the next seven years.

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Very good. Any questions, okay? Mike, good report for us.

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I do before I get into that. Though, I just want to make a interesting note. Several months ago, I was reading one of the past future water demand evaluations for Longmont from the 80s or 90s, and I saw they noted how the Soviet Union was conducting cloud seeding operations, and made a note how that might affect precipitation into the future. Look at where we’re at now, 50 years behind those guys, all right, but yeah, so as We start to enter this new legislative session, sorry, I I’m sorry I haven’t done this a lot so,

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So staff will be monitoring bills that are introduced which are most relevant to our work. So far, four bills have been introduced which are relevant to our department. Among those four, one is being brought to the city council tomorrow with the recommendation to support the bill the building question is regarding individuals who work. On backflow prevention devices and the removal of the license licensure requirement for individuals who inspect, test or repair the devices, and that one again, will be going to the city council tomorrow for recommendation, I believe, brought by the city legal representation and among other legislation, there’s a water project eligible list. There are no Longmont projects included on that. The Water Resources staff doesn’t take any particular stance on that. One another is increasing efficiency Division of Water Resources, which changes the length of permit for ground well construction, which extends it from one year, I believe, by another year to two years. I believe, again, with that one staff takes no particular stance. And the final of those four is future of severance taxes and water funding Task Force, and that is aiming at creating a task force to look at the future of severance taxes and funding and water funding. And again, with that one, this app just takes no particular stance. And continuing into the future, Water Resources staff will ensure we continue to follow what legislation enters and try and see what what we can what stance we may or may not have on

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it concerns what may be coming out of legislation.

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The only one would probably be the one regarding the back flow light, or the one that’s

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going to be going to be going to set account City Council tomorrow, but we support it in the fact that it should make backflow inspections an easier task, given they wouldn’t need a license to do such a

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little tiny bit counterintuitive, yeah, why would you not have a license? What really happened is you got, you’ve got people get plumbers license do all types of plumbing. You had to get a specialty license to go back to the license. And so a lot of block plumbers out there, a lot of people have plumbing licenses, but very few people that have ability to have extra license for quite honestly, backflow devices, pretty easy to install. It’s really honestly similar to many plumbing things. So basically, this will then allow the plumbers, if you have a plumbing license, you can install it by backflow devices. Impactful device that was really just to make it seemed like a redundant license.

37:47
This is actually corrected legislation. Roger last year they passed legislation which had an unintended effect of creating an incredible backlog, because there weren’t enough supply of people that were licensed to do what needed to be done that could do it so they had to do an emergency session, have a work last session. And this is correcting the legislation that they passed to allow supply and demand to be any equilibrium, because they restricted it so much that nobody could do it, and that for nobody could get anything approved right, because there’s a leader approving. So good news, it’s good news. It’s just weird. It’s a weird way of bringing legislation, because it was done, because the legislation went last year, wasn’t thought out right.

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Anything else, Alex, that

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is different, and hopefully

38:44
having these links will be helpful if you, you know, like the, for example, that city of Walmart Legislative Affairs link. You know, when we submitted the packet, it read differently than you would find today. So if you were to click on that city of Walmart Legislative Affairs link, it’ll pop up the cities that the city’s taking to city council tomorrow on particular items. So not just not just water related items, but any of city interest you’ll find under the City of Long Island Legislative Affairs link. And so we’re hopeful that this makes it more efficient for any of you that want to go out and find either specific water ones that might be of interest, or just in general, the city of Longmont. So that’s why we’ve kind of done it this way, and we’ll continue to do it this way the forthcoming months, until they adjourned in May.

39:37
So who’s our city rep? Sandy.

39:41
Sandy someone. So if there’s any, if she has any needs some input, she reaches out to select staff to provide input,

39:54
follow up. So does anybody at long mine actually sit on state affairs? Or do you guys have any conduit of. Municipal League people that do that on behalf of water, or is it just the generic legislative liaison for the city?

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Sandy cedar, she doesn’t actually sit, I don’t think she sits on the state affairs. She kind of takes over the whole city, and she looks at every single bill, and then she parses about water to water, to transportation, to engineer. So she keeps real close to having something pretty sure we don’t have a legislative liaison anymore,

40:46
right? No, I know there’s other entities out there. I just know we had a specific person that was involved in any of those sub,

40:53
yeah, it was really, truly Sandy secretary,

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yeah, do you can I don’t know. I don’t know. I don’t know the answer this, but with the proposition that was passed by the voters last year to reallocate dollars from gambling revenue towards water projects, you know how that’s been implemented, if at all. Yet, I haven’t paid any attention. And thoughts on me that we’re talking about budget shortfalls this year, there’s supposed to be additional budget dollars for water projects.

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I have not heard that they’ve allocated

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any what their protocols were for having extra money and using it the fashion that was

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intended by the voters. Take it for granted that it’ll happen. Fauci I haven’t, I don’t know anybody that’s following up on how much came in from gambling and how much has gone out, but

41:46
we had up to the $29 million part already, so probably haven’t gotten anywhere near that since then competition passed. But I’m just curious how that’s going to be extended. You guys might know. Okay,

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other staff updates, yeah,

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I just have a couple real quick ones, more even items. One is we’ve talked in the past a little bit about our forest stewardship plan up at Bucha, and we’ve reported on a number of the thinning projects that we’ve done. One of the, one of the aspects of thinning is then you end up with maternity thin. And so uniquely with the weather, we had snow, and then we had three or four days of low, zero weather. So we had, we had done the thinning project at the moment of the reservoir, and the weather allowed us, because we had a real great snow pack. In fact, normally we wouldn’t have burnt any piles, but because we had enough snow, and then the cold weather to keep the snow there. And as you looking around, we’ve had snow for a week and a half now. Last Saturday, we were able to burn the piles in one of our

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There we go. So this is Ralph price reservoir. This area around here at the inlet, about three years ago, three or four years ago, we did a cut here, the piles, the branches and that smaller diver trees were all piled. And so this is what it looked like a week ago. Saturday, they were able to start those piles. You can see that out in the open, plenty of snow camp around. So about 258 piles were burnt on that Saturday, which is, you know, quite a few takes a little bit, but it takes three to four days for them to completely burn down. But with cold weather, we stayed, and even afterwards, Rangers were still smiling. So just wanted to give you a quick update and let you see what it was like to do some of those pile burns. Ironically, they were at the same time the same last week, just because of the particular weather, the US Forest Service burned a whole bunch of piles up at Pearson Park, which is halfway between button rock and the peak to peak highway, just on this side of the twin sisters, they burned so many piles that you literally could see this whole thing going up. And we got a few calls about it, but that was burning, and the National Park Service, just today sent out a notice that they’re gonna do some burns in Rocky Mountain National Park over the next couple days by Allen spark so. And then this Saturday, I believe it’s this Saturday, Boulder County is going to do a couple pile burns in Hall ranch. So just. Is kind of a unique it might be sometimes three years before you can get the conditions reasonable and safe enough to do pile burns, and so they happened this last week. So everybody’s out burning piles. So just thought I’d let you know that. And the other thing I wanted to let you know is that last, not last Tuesday, but the Tuesday before city council did excuse this coming Tuesday tomorrow, city council will be reviewing the resolution for the caption move so we’re finally able to get that to get all together and approved, and it’s on the city council agenda to be approved. It’s a resolution, so it’ll be on consent. Probably won’t even be pulled off consent. So it’ll pass on the overall consent, and then if that passes, we’ll have it’ll still be set up as water board recommended to increase on maybe first this year. So it’ll give us a few months to contact all the development community to make sure we’re all aware of it before it actually happens. And I think that’s going to be much better. And then in March, we’ll have our quarterly review. And really do that, we’ll come back to water no through to report on that in the Cashman, but also to talk about further about how we continue to move the cash in the program forward. So that’s, well, I haven’t cashed

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in those dates that we came agreed on what may has that information been given to the city council? They were aware of that? Yes, that’s

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actually the right so it says it and they were actually both the city’s administration, city manager. They wanted that little bit of time that has sent that council packet

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who’s hiding there behind sliding in.

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I was on a water conservation project. I was moving snow to produce

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my garden time. Sorry. Okay, well, any comments on what’s coming before city council, but familiar to you,

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Ken did a really good presentation. I thought it was very thorough. Answered questions before we even had a chance to ask them. And I think it’s a goal all the way around.

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And before you got here, we were talking, I guess your group has not decided who the council liaison is going to be for all the different

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committees. We haven’t decided to decide yet. We think we might talk about renegotiating it, or we may just wait until December, when we have another election coming up here in November. So we might renegotiate, or we may just kind of pick and choose, see what the new guy, what he what his schedule is like. So we just haven’t had a discussion about deciding that. And it may just be that those of us that have filled in continue, but just for my own I’d love to keep coming back to waterboard. So yeah,

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continue to see me. Know me a little bit. So well, just curious. All right. Well, that’s what I was wondering about Kenneth that was going tomorrow night. Everybody’s all right with it. So okay, any comments on major product projects coming up for our consideration? I’m going to get a chance to take a look at that. Look like there’s any big surprises to me. So any other informational items? Ken, no, they were included

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in the panel. Then

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these are the dates we’re targeting every quarter. So thus establishing the new dates, hopefully we’ll get this ironed out so it will flow and everything will work out and happen. It will be approved and go forward next January. So good process would be better than what we’ve been doing. Everybody plan on the date. So

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okay, that’s all I have got. Anybody have any

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anything else? Next meeting will be February 24 because of president’s holidays. So it will be the fourth

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one day of the month. We’ll adjourn. Yes.

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