Water Advisory Board – November 2023

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Water Advisory Board – November 2023

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All right, Tom duster.

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Ratchet lane. Davis over.

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Here is Lowry here and then voting is never

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contenders here Joel Spolsky. Your lead to your

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member Martin will not be able to join us today

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the previous month’s minutes any questions or concerns about last month’s

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all in favor say aye. Aye.

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Aye Sure.

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The flow of the same brain today and lines was 24 CFS, the 100.5 years historic average was 23 CFS

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column the same length was another reservoir, which has a priority date of June 1 of 1871 column is an arthropod on the South Platte River is North Sterling. Now with the priority data called Seven 2004

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belflex reservoir is no longer sprawling and is at an elevation of 63 million ounces which is about four tenths full and

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which is down about 100 acre

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Newton reservoir is HIV 3180 acre feet that’s down price 125 acre feet

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and at the end of October our base and reservoirs were at 75%

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grade level and last

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question questions

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to be heard.

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Let me jump into union reservoir. Before I do that I would like to

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introduce Jamal Stevens of our engineering group

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is as well as doing a lot of our water system engineering. So we’re going to give the engineering update for you today.

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us here today

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so we were water resources was asked to do a short presentation on Union reservoir and then kind of update the board and.

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So wanted to kind of give an update on history. I’ll start with the history union reservoir

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reservoir started out as a natural lake it actually sits in a little bit of a hole

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some a lot of geologists felt feel was kind of terminal and about the glacier and pushed up the land to the side. But we do know it was for sure it was

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such like Buffalo for 1000s of years would come through here we

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go out into

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water and to get mind fog so ended up kind of stirring it up and

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creating the deepening a little bit. But

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it was originally known as Cochon slate.

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Then caucus was the city’s first city engineer. So when in 1872, when we founded Mr. caucus actually built a house on that East Side northeast corner of the lake. The House still exist.

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A gentleman by the name of Larry French is living in that house right now. That was the original house of Mr. Cox. Mr. caucus. Oh, it was an engineer for you

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city engineer, but he also did a number of the area, ditch and reservoir company work the same time didn’t have enough work to fully employed.

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And we’ve always thought really can sleep

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might have been named in honor of him or medically named teasing because it was not was not a pleasant thing. You know, it’s just, it was on buffalo along with any water that got into the drainage waters of the one any fresh water and it actually though was used to irrigate a lot of the lands around now Calkins Lake is an area that was on the kind of center north side of what Zuni reservoir union reservoir is much larger than caucus lake used to be. So that’s important to understand the reservoir versus original Lake.

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But interesting enough, they were actually pumping water out of caucus like eight irrigate adjacent farmland but also here again, some farmland that was on the south side of today’s union reservoir and East what we now call the union life, which company about half section there, such that when in 1902, the union edition opened in the Union dish company diverts out of South Platte River down by LaSalle just a little bit Wessel acel. Later we’re down to the South Platte River irrigate a lot of the land east of us 85 These really Eastern, south south and really, union reservoir ditch was built by members of the Union colony which we called green.

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It was was a

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project to get additional foreign lands or people came out to live in through the area.

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But yes, decree was, again a little bit more junior on the Platte River and so they had trouble with the season water. So they came up to the Longmont area and purchase property around caucus Lake, adjacent or format are routed to form union reservoir competence. So originally, all the water went down to the South Platte.

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Water supplemental water is really used to supplement their damage. And it was used almost exclusively in August and September. They had enough water in the plant to for early summer.

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Finish out their growing season, they would deliver water out in August September.

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In the 1950s, more and more farmers on the planet started drilling groundwater wells, 50s and 60s. And so the use of the Union reservoir water directly into the ditch, lowered, gotten smaller and eventually the water was sold off to a couple other ditch companies further downstream. But also in a 60s and 70s. It was leased to gas which was our cooperative Design Lab. And they use it to augment our priority depletions of groundwater wells on the Platte River.

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in the 1980s, a wire broker out older, assembled, controlling interest in the reservoir.

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And Longmont then acquired.

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That control is about 50% difference, then 1986.

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So the acquisition by Walmart, really, if you go back in our records, we actually have had been looking at acquiring interest in Union reservoir since really early 1960s. And this is actually one of the alternatives that was looked at when we were studying options for storage including

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button rock, being above our treatment plan, higher quality water eventually was chosen as our storage vessel resume, but even back then long time and expressing interest in acquiring union reservoir.

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So then NIKEiD six when the water broker had acquired the controlling interest, it was really obvious to us

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he came to Longmont said hey, required this interest controlling company is all about one of these. Yes, absolutely.

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We acquired a niche

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Show inquiry by using fund balances when we add fields from balances back, and then 1987.

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We have special election in March 1987.

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Ask voters if they would pass a bond pay for

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the funds that we added to acquire the reservoir. So the 90 days that we actually did.

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Our in December, we closed on Union reservoir December 1987. And one when we did that, we filed for conditional decree to enlarge the reservoir. So it was one of the first things we wanted to do was not only do we want an existing reservoir, but will to be larger than the future for additional storage. And when we get into kind of how and why we’re using Arizona, it will be pretty obvious why we wanted to enlarge it.

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We also applied for a conditional decree

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to operate some exchanges or even exchanges from Union reservoir up to ditches.

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turnouts above above long line.

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I’ll come to that

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quickly. And then after we filed those in 1986, in a hurry, in 1987, we filed for a formal change decree for the underlined water. So there’s there’s really three things here we’re going to cover in a minute. That is the largement as a separate filing, exchange decrees as a separate filing, and the change decrees as separate funding. So what’s going on with Union reservoir. So first, we want to talk about the

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before we get to the larger talk about the existing reservoir. The first is the 1986 exchange decree.

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And that exchange decree basically the concept behind that is

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we can deliver water out of union reservoir, and then that would meet delivery obligations that would be coming down downstream of the river. Rather than having those come from above us, we would

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deliver them to the river. And then we would take the life out of the water stream.

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Probably more importantly, we had

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we had approached, we had actually entered into agreements. And so having, we had a plan to pump some of the water up to build them up our supply dish. And the height of its Ohio industry and the biggest issue in the same brain Creek Valley, we would exchange water we deliver water to them, we take a like amount of water at lions where their their divergent points are and take those 100 kilobytes and our other storage doesn’t use that was one of the biggest exchanges.

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And you really needed to do that. Originally, we were going to put in a pipeline stream door to Union reservoir up to those two ditches. But after looking at over for a decade or so we realized

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there was other opportunities to do exchanges. And so we then developed further diversifies and what we call that unit was a hot back pipeline project. And we’ll talk about that a little bit. But that was how we would do those exchanges. And then the 1997 we applied for change degree. And that was, that was a pretty good effort to get that that that color changed in Korean because it’s really involve changing the underlying grade for union reservoir and using that in a lot of different ways.

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So the first thing so so once we got the change to create them we can use that water for for municipal purposes and all the change

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uses that we’ve applied

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for us the first one is probably our foremost area, way we use union reservoir is by delivering water out of union reservoir to the same rain Creek

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when we all have our entire underwater portfolio or historical and non historical waterways that begin we have to underwater court and change those. And by doing that then we end up with a return fluoridation that we owe to the street.

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Most of our water is water that was in the long run

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seems to almost supply the edge oligarchy ditch

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a lot of the dishes around

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their return flow return, basically between golden ponds and the wastewater treatment plant.

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area. Some of them are a little bit further east. But basically, that returned to the river was here in the long road area. And so we’re able to deliver directly out of union reservoir and replicate those historic return flows

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not only in time and in place, right, right at the wastewater plant

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that prevents us from having to use some of our water. So there are times when we don’t have quite enough water, either union or wastewater plant, we actually had to deliver water out of button rock, all the way down the river down here, hey, that’s very difficult to do.

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Being able to get the water down the string pass every one of the MPs pass every string gauge extreme gauge John Waters in there. So not only is it difficult to get the water all the way down the basin, but it’s also water that was upstream that we can use. We really don’t like doing that, again, delivered out of uni reservoir. So that’s really critical to our overall operation. The

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second thing we do is we delivered

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down same rate Creek and exchange it with downstream water users. I think the board’s probably very familiar with the exchange agreement we have with public service company in Colorado. That’s the biggest nice useful one we have. We can deliver up to 3500 acre feet

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change up to 35. That’s basically public service company Colorado has CBD water that they primarily use the same green power plant but they also use just diesel here

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low located right at the top Johnson st grand Creek on the South Platte River and public service company for years.

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Originally, the use of it directly, basically public service company was doing they they didn’t want to pull direct flow water off using.

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So they were called eluvial groundwater wells along the platter, same rain right around the plant and higher quality water always less and solvents or quality water that they could put in their plant and use regeneration power. They have augment that our priority depletions with CBD water, lower grade for years within northern Colorado are concerns the district does not allow the use of CBD water augmentation water. So yes, we’ll sit down there, a lot of CVP water, couldn’t use it. And we’re sitting up here with a lot of water by going through the Change Case is fully consumable, easily delivered whole to public service without augmentation plan. So we entered in a 75 year agreement to exchange our water CVT. We exchange a lot to them. We also exchange water from the wastewater treatment plant. That’s the first thing we do whenever we consume 11 wastewater plant is that water first and then we supplement the human reservoir because of that large exchange

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that exchange is so it’s great for both of us and then we get CBD water that’s ready to go in our water.

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So their use of water primarily for the plant primarily for the planet cooling water. Yeah, for that single plant. That one is you know right now they also use

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the Pawnee plant that brush. And so one of the reasons that’s good for us and them is that they usually how they get how they use a brush. They deliver down the South Platte, frequent South Platte to Jackson reservoir and they have an agreement. So Jackson reservoir is primarily irrigation. So they take all their water out in July and August, early September. They got a big hole, then they’re a little bit more junior on the river. So a lot of times they don’t get filled till mid and late winter. So they’ve got about a six month period where they have an empty reservoir out there.

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And, and their space. So a public like public service company Colorado does.

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We give them a slug of water on sometimes 70 CFS union reservoir

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Yeah, it goes down and they pull it in Jackson reservoir. And we usually do that September, October

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tag, it’s already been done this year.

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And then they started Jackson and then they delivered out of Jackson reservoir all winter long that gives them the winter water they need to augment their hand they groundwater wells on the South Platte downward rush, it augments in winter completions. And then in summer, they have changed Greco irrigation water lines, but those irrigation water rights only yield you know, in the summer, so this gives them water. So, so it’s really both plants, but it’s primarily

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in the same way. CDT is not used for competition because it’s not reusable water.

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So it’s a policy of the

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Colorado Water Conservancy District, they don’t allow it to be used.

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So CVT system was first developed.

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Northern Colorado Water Conservancy District had to go out and get basically vote in the district. And whether or not there would be a district whether or not there would be a CVT project.

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They had the district goes throughout to Julesburg to the Nebraska State Line. So it was a little more difficult to convince somebody in Julesburg. Like, why should I pay for this, you know,

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and what kind of the

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promise was that? Well, not only

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just using the CBT occur up here, but the return flow will accrue to the river and benefit everybody. So when the CVT system was developed, voted on, and we have to everybody has to have a lot of contract. So we signed a lot of contracts for the CVT system, we basically get the first use of that CBD water, we can use as much as we wanted.

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You know, there’s no requirement, but once we’ve used it once, we have to return that string now.

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For the agricultural use of it, you know, it’s gonna seep into the ground, it’s gonna run off and your field, you can’t recover that it does come back to the string. But for me, yes, for uses, it goes through Well, some of it goes on to irrigate lawns, and then you have lawn irrigation returns. We, if it’s if it’s our water rights in Florida, it’s a little water right, we can claim fully, we can claim we claim on immigration returnables for CVD, we can just return for that portion that goes to our water treatment plants. If we have to color a basically color our water as it goes into the water treatment plant runs through the system. And then when it hits the wastewater treatment plant, that portion of the CBD water then returns to the stream and we can’t use it and reuse it. We can’t claim something that’s fully consumable. A good example is when the gap water is fully consumable, we then own that return and give it credit in the string for that return. So yeah, that’s why

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the district then they say the district made a policy that we can’t use CBP water augmentation, because augmentation is 100%. So consumed

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when when they made that policy for about four or five years and kind of add a ramp down onto it, and actually allowed it to be used if you doubled your water. So if you need an acre foot of augmentation water, you have to deliver two acre foot the CBD.

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But again, that was a little less than efficient for the CBD system. And augment and that would have also played water. And the district didn’t want to see that happening. So yeah, that’s why you can’t can’t reuse the water you can use.

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So sorry. So you went to Jackson. That’s the state park. It is yeah. So I mean, having a hold of the reservoir is probably good for a few reasons. I mean,

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just as an aesthetic thing, but also wildlife purposes. If you’re a duck hunter, you love it.

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It puts water in the reservoir. So there’s so there’s another

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Yeah, because

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more than anything else that helps officially because you know what, like it’s too long and winter.

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It’s not

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It’s not really the end, they have had

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reservoir down there. So anyway, that’s kind of our second biggest use of union reservoirs to deliver to downstream use. And we have a few we’ve had some others have some of them some of the ditches downstream.

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An example would be the lower Latham ditch, which is 20, LaSalle. And really, they own a bunch of CBD water, they take that CBD water that actually took it down the

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big toxin is eaten little easier to get it down to Mitch Thompson River.

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That gets the South Platte right out there.

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But they used to exchange with us because the loss that they incurred running the water all the way down big pumps, and that happens all the way down, because the headache is much higher than if we delivered out of union reservoir and got it down to them easier. So they would take union reservoir water, and then we would get their CBD once again, both of the videos.

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So there, there are some smaller exchanges like that.

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Then finally, our next, just maintenance of adequate storage reserves. The nice thing about union as Oregon’s brigade

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is allows us to carry over water from one year to the next.

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And that’s especially important during drier years when

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almost, we’re almost always able to get in reservoir in priority. And not only that, reasonably felt

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some of our other storage, storage, right, so I’m in real drought years, we can then carry over, we use about I’m gonna say probably three to 4000, probably four, four, sometimes 5000 acre feet out in Union is 12,800 active storage. It’s actually 13,200 capacity, the reservoir is around 13,000 acres.

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That gives us plenty of water in the water to be used during during drought periods.

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That’s very important.

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That’s just for that’s for non municipal uses for all the things that we can just discuss the desert, there’s currently no way to get water from Union back into our municipal system. Not directly. That’s what the exchanges do. And yeah, yeah, sure. Yeah. And so yeah, we’ll talk well, and that’s kind of our future plan to get even more than that. But you said that one time there in a future plan, of course, consists a little bit of this at one time, he said that there wasn’t a plan to have water be able to move back up to Ireland, or something. And

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that was never, that hadn’t been

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just a small portion of all of this hasn’t been done. We get to the combat pipeline.

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Yeah, right now, it’s just all of our love these other uses, and the ways we use unique reservoir is how we use it. And we have limited exchange exchanges.

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What it would be limited by the hat on the water, we have the union reservoir, but in terms of the state, you know, the state engineers office, like we can do as much as we want, as long as we’re returning as, like whatever we take out upstream we put back in. Yeah.

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The concept that’s the correct concept. Really, a little bit of a depends on whether or not

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what agreements we can get with upstream users, and how much their demand is one of the things we’re finding it in our basin

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far away from Union reservoir. One of the things we’re finding in our basin is we’ve got a lot we’ve got some a little bit more water on the bottom end of it, that is becoming harder to exchange.

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What one one good example is the late Macintosh used to be owned by a highly digital and they used it as an exchange. They put the water in the oligarchy ditch to prolong it would have gone an oligarchy ditch in the vital image. But they also have

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foothills reservoir, which is even larger. Between foothills and McIntosh. They have more water to exchange well and then of course

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oligarchy if we kept building houses of another, sort of less and less use of oligarchy, yes, in ditch, and it got to a point where there wasn’t enough use one enough use an oligarchy ditch to exchange all that water supply and ditch per turn. laidback Tasha divided company allowed his shares to be held by the highlands company owners and then they sold that water. So there’s a lot as a Macintosh, because they just couldn’t exchange it. And

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yes, even, that’s a whole secondary exchange. So yeah, it’s really not so much this day, you know, saying how much you can exchange, it’s

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what’s out there, it has availability to change, and you really got to get out of the

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One other important area, long range planning for union reservoir is to maximize utilize utilization of our change shortage, water rights, we basically split the same great Greek into what we call upper niches and orphanages, all the niches above nor 75th above hygiene are what we call the upper entrance and all the dishes below hygiene coloriages. The reason for that is that during the spring runoff, there’s enough water and all the ditches get water coming out off the stone. But later in the season, and irrigation is different, but just to kind of

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draw a line around the Fourth of July, there’s not enough water coming out of the mountains to meet all the ditches, calls. And so the ditches on the lower end of the denture are benefiting from return flow from the ditches on the upstream upper end of

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St. Gregory. And so they basically start functioning as a return flow damage. So when we change when we get those water rights. So given you might remember most of the ditches in the long run area up to hygiene, more senior ditches more, because we basically built just south versus North there. At very, we built the ditches, the senior ditches are right here along but they get building additions as they went west towards hygiene and your junior ditches are upstream, but they’re taken on the verge of water are called purge and flow of water.

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And so in summer, if we own for those dishes, we own above hygiene, we’re able to change those and waterpark and use those all summer all the dishes that are downstream, we can’t lose them, we use them when they’re virgins, loto about Fourth of July, then we have to use them down here. And of course, at the end we use them for return for obligations as one of the ways we use them. We deliver the some of the lower ditches and we use them for irrigation of option greenways. That’s another way you can use them.

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But one of the things we want to we want to also do is because of the resume sitting out there with this down, we can store those lower ditches in Union reservoir. And we do do that. So

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for one reason is we’re storing fully consumable Why change lower ditches considerable and

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maximizes our utilization of the reservoir? When we use union

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water half of it is a return for obligation that happens

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50% of the actual stored water in Union if it’s a union degree or is it the floor ditch degree, we’re going to have a percent of the strike again that increases our fully consumable portion of union reservoir and we do have minimum obligations that we have to deliver anyway utilizing that for those lower ditches is currently usable and in the future as our demands increases we need more water that utilizing that for those lower ditches is very, very valuable to us.

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Then the next one is

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and this is in our in our change cases is direct you use the first use of the upstream storage of unity reservoir storage. This is one that actually got better.

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But people don’t always see it.

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Current or for 100 years. Union reservoir field

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followed are all American deaths diverts just south and attainment west of McAllen. So this diverting upper ditch water, the clean water, it’s diverting that water down there, it’s an oligarchy ditch goes through town fills union reservoir.

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The way has always been a great way to fill universe.

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Another way you can think of that is another way to fill it. And kind of think about this the same as running it down the irrigation ditch is a weekend diverted at our water treatment plant, running in pipes run run those pipes through town and we get to use it in our homes and businesses, we use that water as the first use. And we treat it as the wastewater treatment plant. And thereby exchange down here didn’t start, we take note that we actually drop it into the same room and take water right above where we put it into a like amount of water. But that water that would otherwise have filled up and reservoir in the ditch now basically fills in reservoir by going through the pipes getting being able to be used by the citizens alumni. And then it’s up to the All American aviation liberty to Union resume. So same thing happens in Union resume, it gets it gets filled.

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But Walmart uses it first. And that’s a dual use of that same water. And that’s a really

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important aspect of whole or

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to create.

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And then finally, there’s invasive exchange opportunities, and increased delivery capacity. All of the exchange opportunities that are now and in the future will be available with Union reservoir or they’re

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one of the nice things is union reservoir has an ALEC capacity and 95 CFS.

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Other than blood and rock, most everything we have is you know 510 1520 CFS capacity. So

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in the case of

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observes company, Colorado, we wouldn’t be able to do some of the changes we do with them. When they gotten to me seven CFS, but you did reservoir because of its delivery capacity, we’re able to do that.

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Most all of all of everything we do and deliver out of union reservoir, we deliver a little bit of water in July and August for return for obligations and a little bit of water, salt and some water is

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half of the stories in return flows that deliver that. Basically, we’ve learned most of our water out Eugene, Oregon, which

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later on we’ll talk about recreation out there. that benefits the recreation, really kind of a shift of, you know, we talked about earlier when it was the farmers using it for the Union dish. Originally, all the water came out in July and August and but in August, it wasn’t the greatest place for fishing. There wasn’t much water in there. So. So that’s really how we use union reservoir. I probably over the years have been asked more often than any other facility I have. We have Why do you have a reservoir so long that you can’t you can’t use it? You know, you can’t get the water anywhere? You know, why did I say you didn’t reservoir is one of our workhorses. You know, really, when you understand how all this stuff works, it really comes into fruition why we do that? Is that a lot of capacity, always present like as soon as a dam was built, or did some subsequent work get done to expand that because

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that is no that’s we have the original allocates

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20 year. Don’t ask me about that.

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Companies that have to spend a little bit of money one of these days, but it’s amazing, ya know, we’ve got the original outline

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from day one.

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Then wanted to talk a little bit about the expansion

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of union reservoir. So as in 1986, we acquired the original interest in the company, we filed for a large degree.

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This case number, the current degree capacity of the reservoir is 13,219 acre feet.

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Enlargement capacity at its largest, largest capacity is increased by it says 19,800 acre feet or total

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reservoir. Potential capacity. 32,000 acre feet. That’s huge. That’s when you think about that’s all almost too long.

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Just 30,000. So that’s really useful.

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And, and really with give us

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make all of these operations, we can do all of these operations out of that one. But in 2007, we did enlargement feasibility study, come looked at it, and we looked at really a number of different enlargement opportunities, probably

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around 13 foot would be the

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lowest reasonable raise just because because you so much money to get out and do something to fill the reservoir. So if you did much less than 13, raise the human cost. By obviously, as you go up in capacity, the unit cost goes down.

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Long one has always looked a little bit, this is this will be interesting. This is well down into the future, but almost always looked at the possibility of having a partner in marching union reservoir, we actually had talked with a public service company in Colorado for probably a couple decades. They were interested in being a partner.

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Then they converted the sacred plant

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to a gas fired plant. And with other land options,

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they’re not really looking for more capacity.

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They feel really, they’re their water supply.

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In addition of a number of dishes and reservoirs, and other agreements,

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big water supplies fcbd They own 10,000 years of CBD, which is

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almost as good as almonds. Pretty incredible holding of CBD water.

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that’s a proposal.

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I mean, that’s, yeah, that’s the if you are going to large margin. That’s kind of the capacity we’ll be looking at and largest that extent.

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Probably not for long months purposes. But for the

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with a partner. Yes. Max is maximum different ways. We can go anywhere from about 5000 acre feet up to 3000.

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what you want to do you want to file we wanted to file Nigeria exists for the largest

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expansion possibility. Titles watering, so our water rights are 1986, which

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don’t sound very good. It sounds very junior. But But honestly, they’re in front of the incredible amount of

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augmentation and

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waste of water

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also, very

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parts of the year.

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It’s a better decree than if you will, as far as the margin one. What’s our thought about actually going ahead with an argument

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on an as needed thing? Yeah, it’ll it’ll depend on on long walks growth and future water demands and everything that we’ve we’ve looked at on our future water supply. We originally we actually were read ready to start looking at timing and constructing a project using reservoir we’re actually starting to

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just starting to look at that when we got firming project started initiating its exploration

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we actually we talked quite a quite a length of waterboard about this in the late 1990s.

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We struggled with

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well, we like the idea that union reservoir is owned by us

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totally, you know, in our control

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but on the other hand, we got 30 project is above our water treatment plants and can be delivered directly for water plants so there’s a benefit there whenever lining on any kind of exchange or callback or anything like that. So and then, really the windy that for me project was a joint project with the water

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Probably water users. So really, it wasn’t that it schedule wasn’t in our control. As a

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joint project, it was everybody’s we’re looking at.

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So because So basically, we ended up flipping

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What do you have, for me is a project we’re gonna get done next. That’s, that’s gonna take us 2030 years in the future. And so then that’s when the after that that’s when you reservoir will be looked at, it’s not something that we’re going to demolish our site is what we get on, we’re going to get

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quality wise, we’re at 7500 acre feet. That gives us about

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2500 700 being ready for the actual size of our 75.

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We’d love to have more, but you know, everything costs money.

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So yeah, so that’s that. So we were just wondering, just to get a kind of perspective here, like, what’s the footprint of a union? That is 32,500? So that’s, that’s a 21 foot vertical race. And

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like, I mean, I’m just thinking about the typography. I mean, does that take it

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to Caroline road or something? Or is that like,

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on the we will have a dam on the outside the west side, so that really, there’s no more footprint there, on the east side, it would go on 19 foot, but the east side, pretty steep slope over there. So you know, a couple 100 feet of additional capacity on the north side is really pretty far north.

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And North side of unions, three shell, very gently sloped, will be more. Now, depending on the race side, we actually would have to have a pipe

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closed conduit from the reservoir going towards getting on your own because

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greater than height

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is higher than the ground Western. So we have to apply.

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Whatever the reason, I did not think

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you actually go to the south

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there’s probably

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about five or six feet.

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attached, basically, close by according to the last

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fact the very highest rate sites, we would not use the current location would come down to 0.6, pick up all of our condition on the river price for the Western drives come down. Just be

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So I think I talked about some of the uses of that, again, who would provide us additional ones.

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Then the final, the third leg of this whole thing is the union reservoir, compact pipeline. And I’ll jump up here to look at it a little bit. But proposal would be to put in a pump station in Union reservoir. Now this project

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be real honest, I wouldn’t. It’s most likely in the future. When we look at this, you’re going to do the pump back pipeline before you do the reservoir enlargement. Because the pullback pipeline gives us additional water supply.

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Immediate use of water we have a new reservoir will not rely on upon other types of exchanges. And so it can be utilized fairly quickly. Also, if you build it now, you know we build the pump station back away from the reservoir so that when the reservoir is enlarged at all the facilities are gonna continue to work. But night is come in here put in a pump station on what is currently city property.

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Then the water would come up here, and there’s four separate

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portions to this project. It’s envisioned that we wouldn’t build all of them at once and may not build all of them ever we don’t know. The first leg of the pump station would come basically come from Union reservoir up to I’m going to call it the you Creek Golf Course it’s really the Rough and Ready ditch that we’re trying to trying to get to

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by doing that we’re able to hit, there’s, you know, three schools, there’s this city, Steven de Park.

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And then there’s a you Creek Golf Course, right now, all of all of this area under the Rough and Ready ditch, there’s a lot of raw water, which is really good from a water conservation standpoint. But all the water comes out of the Pleasant Valley reservoir. Pleasant Valley reservoir is there’s a couple of real small reservoirs, but basically what’s about a reservoir, and most senior ditch, it has the senior call of the St. Rain Creek.

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So starting on November 1, and usually sometimes running during the January, but in the winter, when, when we’re having to use Storage water outlet northward, what are the CBD,

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we’re pulling water out of here. Well, one could use that water in this water treatment plant. And then by by exchange later on, deliver water in the first phase of the pump back pipeline to the Rough and Ready dish. And then the rough rather than delivering it out of Pleasant Valley reservoir you delivered at a union reservoir. And in addition, you got the fox Hill Country Club. So you got two golf courses, numerous city parks, three or four schools that lie to use on the floor and of the Rough and Ready ditch. And we can utilize union reservoir water. To do that. There. Here’s my big plug on the old pump back pipeline. So one of the one of the advantages, and I probably should have mentioned this union reservoir is that when we have x, we normally don’t have any access

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flows out of the water treatment plant. We currently utilize 95, to sometimes 100% of a fully consumable F one out of our wastewater treatment plant, there’s not many, not many entities anywhere, talk about reusing, they’re treated, they’re treated wastewater effluent.

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To that extent, I mean, I don’t know if anybody, a lot of places tried to build a reclamation plant and pipe it back into the treated water distribution system. I personally like our, our watch to better where we use it, utilize it by exchange. But

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that’s getting that wastewater effluent into union wrestle.

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With a pullback pipeline, we even go one step beyond that, not only can we continue to improve the efficiency of reusing those reusable supplies, but we do it by putting it directly on city facility. And, you know, from water rights perspective, maybe that isn’t much difference. But from a public policy standpoint, it’s nice that we’re, we’re using we’re using the water and then we’re treating it and then we’re reusing it on city facilities. And so I think I think that’s really great. And it’s something that we can do. So that’s phase one, and deliver water to this. And then phase two is to come down Highway 66. To just west of Lake McIntosh. That’s really the biggest vein of the biggest part of the pullback pipeline, because it does a couple of things. One is we then would be able to drop water into the oligarchy ditch. At that point, the build out of oligarchy dish and we got tons of city blocks on the order of eth that we can do again direct reuse of our wastewater and other water union reservoir. We can put it into Mac

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Macintosh Lake,

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delivered out of there to our plants. So that’s and then also you can jump up here to the Rough and Ready ditch and that would then let you put water in Pleasant Valley reservoir.

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Again, take water out of that ditch and then also the Highland ridge. So right here uniquely right here at the lake Mackintosh, you got access to oligarchy ditch, supply ditch, rough and ready the rich and the Highlander. Those four ditches pull a bottle of water and you say right, so I mean, really are benefiting you really increasing your ability to exchange water at that point that’s

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extremely critical. So that’s phase two, the project really opens up what we can exchange to that third leg of it would be to bring it on out here to virtually all Garki reservoir number one.

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And the advantage to that is a we current water treatment plant there probably won’t ever turn that plant out again. We don’t know we might put some filters in there who

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mills. But again, that decree, we could take into the water treatment plant

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in great Greek.

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By lions above our turnouts, at our turnouts, we could lay back though we could fill virtually out of union reservoir. So take that like amount of water that’s over 1000 acre feet, right there.

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And then

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we don’t have current plans for it. But then there’s a pump station in the

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island, what people buy here, we put a new pump station and pump them up to our water treatment plant. So we can actually physically run it up to our gym, but we’re not planning on that right now. But, you know, having this facility and having this planning

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lets you do something good. The neat thing about that would be, you’d run water up here, you’d treat it, you’d run through your system, you’d Pump It Up the union and pump it back up to the plant, and you just start running around in circles until you fully consume that water.

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Summer, we only have about 35 ish percent of the water that will be reusable, because partially because of

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how much is used on water irrigation. But in the winter, we now in the 90 to 95% return flow. So you know, fuel use 5% of water, you can run around that circle A lot of times, not that not that we’re not going to be planning on that. But we certainly keep that as a backup opportunity.

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But also, what’s going to happen in our water in the future. You know, and so this, this whole talk back pipeline scheme provides us with future opportunities to use, I honestly believe that when you start down here, you can get as you go up, you get more and more exchange opportunities, the further you build the pipeline, I think there’s going to be plenty of exchange opportunities now lower that will be able to consume any water out there.

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For Jimmy, how

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does that impact is the auditor tend to diminish this, what measures it for now for the next 23 years. And hopefully,

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we’ll provide that water for long but

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possibly the build out of the city.

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We don’t know. We do know that. It’s all fully consumable water out of chimney Hall. So having that fully consumable water

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allows you to do this theme versus having CBD which is great. I love CBD, but it’s not totally consumable. So you can use all these things on this planet. So

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how much we’ll need, how much of this we need to build in the future. We don’t know what we absolutely want to keep everything, all the plans on the drawing board.

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And all of our water court applications conditionals going because when you lose them and you lose when you lose that priority. So this is this is again, we’re looking towards the future way to the future. Always, oh, I will tell you

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this, this part of the pipeline is already in the

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ground for about 10 or 15 years, there was a development that was going in there that we had to get into the ground before developing skill. And, and we were currently using it. We pump out of screens also number two, which is golf goes through the golf course and it goes past union reservoir. We have water rights and shingles. So we pump those water rights into that pipeline. And it delivers Kermit Stephen a park and

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Fall River elementary school. So these two green spots here currently being irrigated out of this pipeline. So

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that’s, again lowers the treated water demand, like quite a bit. So that’s that’s the pump back pipeline.

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Make sure

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one thing we have talked had conversations with the same brain and left him Water Conservancy District.

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They’re they’re doing some planning for the overall benefit of entire base and we’ve had talks with them about the pullback pipeline

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It would,

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they’re they’re a trying to get some some money through some federal program, there’s some money out there the federal government spending in RCS. And if they got that money there would be they might have some money to build. So

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this would allow the district to participate with a similar to the idea of participating in largely to participate in the pipeline that would allow them to have additional water supplies, not only for anybody in the base.

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They wouldn’t use our water rights. There’s a lot of water downstream, but they get good

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benefits on developments without water supplies.

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So opportunities for others.

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One what I would backing up our existing water exchange agreements.

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One concern waterboard, and we share that concern has expressed to us when we were looking at when the Fermi project was

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we were basing all of our planning

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on everything we have our entire portfolio, and one item in our water portfolio that we always like to have full control your water,

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you want to you want to control it.

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One item we don’t have is the public service companies change.

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That is a 75 year agreement that was started in 2003 years old.

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So it’s no longer zoning.

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And there’s a 15 year problem. Either party can opt out of that agreement with 15 year notice that the apartment

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I personally shares some of Water Board’s concern in the past about Well, that’s a 15 year guarantee that we have to honor smart for sure for 15 years.

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The part of the concern is yes, all our companies are looking at going more

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more more renewables. You don’t need water to get to put up a solar panel, you don’t need water for the winter.

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Probably the same green power plant is going to remain because it’s natural gas on the natural gas plants are needed as a backup for all of the power teams. But pump storage could back that up too. We just don’t know

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for sure that those power plants will remain operating both the Pawnee plant brush saving power plant east of us.

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And then you put his Pisco do do they do to keep their CBD water.

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out of $100,000 a unit is 10,000 units, you can do that. It’s a lot of money. And so you know, somebody that you know, pesto got bought out by Xcel Energy.

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So somebody back in Minnesota Senator crunch numbers and say, What’s this asset worth? And so that, you know, that was that was the board and staffs return.

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Very comfortable that we have great immunity

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is a great partner. But low long term.

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No absolute guarantee that that will stay. So pumped back pipeline project is our ability to quickly quickly,

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quickly a construction job.

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we’ll quickly be able to build them under our control and start those exchanges.

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basically take the 3500 acre feet that were delivered.

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Okay, whoever the Daskal and then using the callback pipeline, and by exchange for that, get that water, how much of that 3500 acre feet communicates

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and what’s the volume phase one exchanges you know, I’d have to look at it’s

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probably, probably on the range more like 1000 acre feet or

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But we certainly can deliver it all as a drop in center for today’s computer scientists.

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So our information

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so based on what I heard you say, I believe you’re saying that probably the pump back with the higher priority to use and enlargement

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I would see a way to do that and just out of curiosity, if that’s wanted to where would be maybe the expansion

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in that order.

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It will be for only because of this call, I mean, if if cost didn’t matter at all, it would be larger than a button wrong in a cell because that’s right above us it’s higher quality water but it’s it’s costly it’s just so on.

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So why

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do we currently having to create for that expansion, we have similar decree a 32,000 acre foot decrease or an argument about so it’s 1967

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is the same as the existing reservoir we followed for the what we’re going to build plus the same time

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again, that’s pretty senior.

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Its senior to two really anything else in the basin? In terms of new projects in the basin, in senior to every all the all the plans?

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To senior to coffeepot in Cree

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is JR to the Narrows.

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Let you guys think about that do

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so, then finally, is recreational aspects, you know, you didn’t reservoir when it was a private company. It was a private lease watersports list was the last one and only last month when we acquired controlling interest. We let them know hey, and all this going to be a limited time that they can delay surprisingly, for about six or seven years but in the early 1990s Longmont took over the recreation lease for the reservoir.

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There are numerous recreational permits the city has done.

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Some of them paid for by

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grants from the state will go code Colorado

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State Wildlife.

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It is

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literally one of the favorite right?

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I think it’s one of the favorite recreation areas in Longmont area, or citizens really liked it. And in fact, so much so when the city went out about a year or so ago, talking about some of the valid issues we’re looking at. One of the highlights of that whole study was, hey, we want to do we want to see more recreational opportunities.

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That wasn’t included on the ballot because that kind of was already going forward. In fact, one of the projects right now we’re just looking at its perimeter trail around union reservoir, that perimeter trail. Well, everybody’s, if you’ve ever been

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back in touch, people love the trail around the back, Jeff log, log in around the reservoir too. And that’s kind of starting to divide and scientists are starting started.

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There are other plans for recreational

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so most of the people were long, honest. Not sure they think of Union as a water suppliers thing isn’t a great place to take a paddleboard you know,

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saline, everything we do out there so, so you so

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anyway, that’s kind of a short run

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I just can’t say enough about

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the value

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Hopefully that helped fix

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the current master plan for expansion unions is set at 16. Or is it still pretty much a variable?

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Well, the our larger plan just basically said,

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what the different array size you didn’t right pick one.

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I’ll tell you honestly,

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that study did tell us that 94 races sort of the highest rate, race, we can do reasonably.

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The 21 foot race is feasible, technically feasible, but the cost for riding for the Toyota way up because of that, because of being able to get water into it, and how much on the north side, I mean, it just impacted a lot more stuff. So,

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you know, from an economic standpoint, it’s somewhere between 13 and 19. That’s the sweet spot.

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And that would, again, depend on a partner without a partner.

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Okay, thanks a lot.

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Very informative.

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Any agenda revisions?

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All right.

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I have one.

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All right, in development activity going on there.

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I’d like to show that my items went right through really fast.

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Really good.

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Holly, you’re on. All right.

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So my name is Joel healthy engineering and operations administrator with the city. I’ve mainly worked on capital projects at the wastewater treatment plant for the past 15 years.

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Seven years. So we just wanted to Holly and I wanted to

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kind of introduce ourselves to you guys and go over just a couple of quick projects that were that are under construction

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in the city right now. So

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those two projects will be price Park, and then some nursing brain pipeline rehabilitation near the Old North and South water treatment.

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So price Park tank. So again, just just real quickly going through some of the past work that’s been done. So the project was started in September of last year.

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I don’t know if anyone here, golf’s but the parking lot was tore up pretty good during the winter season, last year, but the weather was pretty nice. So there are still lots of golfers who were driving through there. But the contractors really been doing a good job interfacing with the pool customers and withdrawal.

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So that we so access was was maintained throughout that period, there was an existing 2 million gallon and 7 million gallon reservoirs that were on the site. For the most part, the 7 million gallon reservoir was the one that was still in use. But these two pictures

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show the show those two reservoirs. On the left, it’s the

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7 million gallon and on the right Institute. So those were demoed right away.

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So moving along into April of this year, after they excavated the site, kind of bored.

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So this was a Monday poor. There were about 40 concrete trucks that he came through the site so it was a busy day and they actually

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poured it in about seven hours it took them another couple you know, they’re finishing it as they went along. But it was a long day. You can see it was overcast is actually a perfect day for a concrete pour for the guys and everything. So it went really well.

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Nearby me replacing the 2 million and 7 million with with 8 million you know, that’s, that’s what they’re for. So that’s it. Yeah. And this is just some of the rebar you can see the amount of rebar that kind of goes into that slab and there’s no columns. It’s a pre stressed concrete heading. It’s

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So the dome is actually supported by the walls. You’ll see some of that in the next few

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slides here.

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So here you can see on the left, they are lifting, they actually have It’s like a puzzle. And they pour these pieces on site. So they have different casting beds, they call them. So throughout around the entire team site, they had

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stations, basically where they were pour these panels, you can see how there’s, they’re just slices for the walls there. And it’s the same for the don’t, you just can’t see that as well. And they would pour those ahead of time Cure Up over 20 day timeframe, they come up with a string, and then you can see the big crane in the background, that crane would lift them into place. Yeah, so it’s quite a, quite an operation, they poured that slab in May. And just this week, we’re actually doing the tank filled test. And we are so filled the team this past week, with water up to overfill our nation to

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to make sure that they don’t hold water and know just out of curiosity with a demo, those existing

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probably adapt where we have any water storage.

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Right without that, right. So we have different pressure regulating valves throughout the system. And we are able to transfer we have three different pressure zones in this system. So we’re able to transfer water from one zone to another. You know, it’s not the ideal way to operate during this time period for you know, fire flows. And just that storage capacity. While we’ve been able to get through this this year and a half construction period, just using the existing infrastructure, and the distribution system.

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it’ll be nice to get this done, because this really is the heart of the distribution system, the original reservoir where you don’t build turn of the century in the 1900s. And a lot of the piping for the three zones all come together in this area. So as part of this construction to what you’re not seeing is a pump station. So that pump station is going to give us greater flexibility and how we operate the distribution system as a whole. Once water flowed by gravity from Nelson Flanders and Montgomery tank down to this location, we really didn’t have the ability to go to the other zones under the currently the old configuration with this pump station, we’re going to be able to go from zone one to zone two, three, give us better redundancy, if something else happens to the distribution system just give us better flexibility for operations or want to move water around. What was that whole for.

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So that one that you’re seeing here is the overflow, the tank overflow, so there’s still piping that needs to attach on to that and it’ll go to a

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manhole where, you know, if there’s an overflow event for some reasonable food that never happens, but it’s a requirement, obviously the design that in that it would overflow

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directly into your house

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that’s why I’m here to just so you have a face to the name of the mind.

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That should yeah, so we we actually fill the this tank filled test up to that overflow elevation.

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And then on the right that picture that you see there you see that front end loader and a contraption behind him along the

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kind of a wood two by four structure there where they’re actually winding the tank. So they went around this tank 1000s of times with wire that’s an eighth of an inch in diameter and pre stressing it so it’s just you know wrapping of wood barrel to so that you don’t have to use a speck of concrete

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and just gives it a structural integrity. And you can see up at the top there like I was saying before those those

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that don’t panels again, all that weight is distributed to those walls

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as far as not having to have any columns on the interior. So it was pretty neat. I actually got to go into the tank two weeks ago for the first time when we were doing our inspection to make sure that the contractor was really ready for the tank filled tests and everything. And it’s Yeah.

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Without spill spilled overflow, I mean, like what’s it about the middle? Does that mean that this thing could only be filled about halfway and again, no. So on the inside what you’re not seeing there?

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is a concrete box that they build up to a higher elevation, it’s only a few feet right couple of feet below where the dome joins the top of

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wall panels.

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And so that was the Tank Project is slated for completion in April, we still have to test out the pump station, there’s still quite a bit of electrical, obviously the landscaping work all that needs to be done. Some of the tank finishes are starting to go on, we’re starting to coat the exterior that put some brick pilasters up there on the exterior also, but a lot of the work to remaining is still electrical. So it’s a $21 million project. It’s been on schedule and on budget.

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So it’s pretty good project, surpass engineer, she did a really good job planning and John Rob was was the main senior civil engineer, I definitely got to give kudos to him. And then Jeff Sherman, obviously the current Engineer here at Kaos project manager towards the beginning with all the changes in everything, I’ve taken it over since since January of this year, but a lot of good people were in

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contract gardening for me. So Garni is a contractor there, yeah, we did get a good contract also. So

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they’re a good pipeline contractor and do a lot of water at least water also, this is the first time I’ve been able to work with them in my my career, I’ve always heard good things. And yes, they’re doing a good job

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is difficult to be any of those first few months when I wasn’t involved was really a difficult part of the project, tying into existing water lines and shutdowns,

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like you’re alluding to just all the operational changes, you make just to make sure that

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the existing system state operation, there’s a lot of automation.

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So So with that, I’m gonna turn it over to Holly. So Holly is a new engineer in the water and waste department.

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She was with development review prior to that, but she’s handling a lot of the raw water projects for sure explain other other project to water all

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this project, the North St green pipeline project is what you might want to know where it is located near 36 and 66. So between our water treatment plant, and the town of mines, where why going to be lining approximately about 1600 feet of,

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of 20 existing 20 Orange mane. And it’s going to go within the area kind of adjacent 66 within the area that you’re seeing. And

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so now you can see kind of where it where it’s located are beginning, middle and end fit that that middle pit is actually located really adjacent to the intersection of 36 and 66.

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Whenever infrastructure is starting to age, might have some repairs on it. But then whenever you get to the point where you have so many repairs, then you’re either looking at potentially replacing, or rehabilitating it.

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Because there’s so much in this area. And I’ll go back to the previous one. You can see perhaps here better than

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a plan. You can see there’s a couple of ditches, we’ve got the crews we’ve got some buildings are obviously adjacent to highway 66 and 36. And this learning actually goes across one of those roads, we’ve got floodplain, we’ve got potential environmental issues, we’ve got trees, there’s just a lot of things on the surface. That could be potential conflicts. And so whenever you’re going from repair to to potentially replacing or rehabilitating in terms of putting a pipe in the ground, there’s just a lot of potential conflicts. And so that’s how we’re doing over the hill tation type of approach and Association

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This is a multi phase project this year we’ve actually gone through an inspection process and the next year is going to be the construction phase. You can see it go from left to right on this for these pictures. We did an excavation of that middle.

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Whenever the previous slide showed beginning, middle and ending. This is actually a permitted location. We have a window in the top of the pipe Oh

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put like a little remote controlled camera. And

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after the water in the pipe, we set the camera upstream and downstream from that middle for the patient. And what we were looking for was just to make sure that we want to do this rebuilding, we want to do this liner, we want to make sure that the pipe is appropriate for cordless running application. So we’re looking for things like cracking, we were looking for potential anomalies within the pipe to make sure that we could mine it. And we found things such as the one on the very right side, which was a nice gusher, we have a hole in the pipe because it was D watered at that time, and that the ground water was coming in. But whenever we have a pressurized pipe, what that means is that we’re losing our water. And so that water that we were that Ken was just talking about, we want to be able to use it and use it and use it again, we want to make sure that we keep it within the pipeline. And that’s kind of the purpose of this project.

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We’ve completed most of the investigation, the construction is going to be next year what that construction is going to be it’s kind of like a sock. It’s this flexible sock,

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typical sock, but it’s a flexible material. And what you do is you push that sock or that flexible material into the pipeline, and then you expand it a little pressure in that in that sock, you expand it to the diameter so it’s a 24 inch diameter pipe once it’s expanded to the existing pipe then what we’ll do is we where the contractor runs up a UV light through it and so it goes from flexible to hardened period place

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that then we have

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a cured in place pipe within our within our existing pipe and then we’re ready to put it back into service at that point in time and hopefully we’ll have those things like we have on

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in there.

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So that’s that’s the goal that I’m working with contractors now to get a final schedule together. This is this is scheduled for next year.

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Peter you’re doing well then we have

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hits at the end as long as the middle and they are able to run that sock the entire length between the pits. So basically we will have we will have a liner that is basically from one pit to another

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100 feet and in between but

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can we use this technology quite a bit

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so as the wider wasn’t UV cured is it structurally

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is it structural? Or is it just a seal? My yeah, I’ve asked the contractor it is evidently it’s a structural pipe. Cool.

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So yeah, so like I said, we use this quite a bit in collection system the same period sewer system.

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So we had to use the two movies and then a few other applications on the raw water side.

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But yeah, definitely gives us a cost effective solution when it’s difficult just to dig and replace type of earrings, I mean, a lot of that online repair to

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dig into

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pretty soon

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so again, we just kind of wanted to introduce ourselves we’re kind of new in our roles. We’ll probably be coming back from time to time to talk about some other projects this is only a couple of them that we chose for this time because

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we didn’t want to take too much of the time some of the other stuff

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back to the tank

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right now it’s April of 24 so spring

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is what we’re looking at. There might be some landscaping and stuff that has to be done after that but we’re hoping to have the pump station commissioned by then so that we have the functional use of it at that point

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what’s what’s the status of a restored

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historic all

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too much other than we’re not touching it with this project

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for the most part it’s being used for telecommunication

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promises gonna paint that

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I don’t know how good is

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it everybody there is a lot of people that think this you know, kind of a

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landmark for

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helps you find your way home here.

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And then all the time

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that keep us posted? Yes.

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Okay, we

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are going to talk a little bit about project. Yeah. And hopefully it’ll be a little bit shorter. But

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just to do things I want to talk about the, when the Fermi project

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just wanted to give you a quick update on on the project itself. And we’re up about half the height on the dam. So

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projects, about halfway done. So that’s really good. He is tall enough now, if you’ve ever gone up past Carter lake to the county road that goes up to flatiron reservoir, past LIDAR reservoir of the plane with reservoir, right, yeah, flat iron reservoir, you can pull off on the side of the road there and actually see the dam now. I mean, it’s you can see how tall it is. It’s pretty impressive, even though if you’re a little bit away from it.

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And of course, this is the photographs off of the website where they take a photograph every Monday and post it there. And then you can go back.

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One thing I’ve had a lot of fun with watching these photographs, a you can watch the reservoir come up. This is July 24th. So a couple three months ago, um, you can just see the start of the dam here. But what they have found is if you can see this rock outcropping here, and this rock outcropping here, one way I’ve been able to watch the race I for the dam is by looking at those two rock outcroppings. So I’m going to just fast forward through up to today. And you might might keep an eye on those rock outcrop beads, as the project went on. This is August 21. And you can you can see the one on the north, the downstream side, the north side of the dam, there’s not much left of it by August 21.

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Just a tiny nugget of it on September 5, and you can see the other one. And so now it’s gone. And but you can still see the one on the upstream side downstream side. Then October 10. Start that disappear. October 23. You can

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culture part is gone. And then November 13, which was Lastly, you can just barely see a little tiny bit right here. So you can imagine how much the vertical the vertical rates now when you look at it, you can really see that on both sides of it. So

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yeah, it’s it’s a it’s about so

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that part is going really well.

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Probably the one other thing on the project I wanted to talk about is Colorado River conductivity project that was

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plan if

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you guys are used to when you get excuse me, because we’re used to come down to here

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the dam was relocated to here and the connectivity channel has been put in there.

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And that project went very well this summer. I love this picture because you really can see you can see

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now was relocated from here to here. And you can see the connectivity channel coming through there.

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I just thought that was a really

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integral integrante

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So and this is actually a close up of the channel. So extra three good size and you can see the riprap and everything went on with it. This is a mixture of a couple of weeks ago, we started running water sewer connectivity challenge. So there’s still work to be done out there. But this is substantially complete to where they were running water and this is I believe have really great art as a overall Vinnie got from the project made this possible. It’s it’s great for water user community because we choke out

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both out of water diversion of water so

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release, but also protect the environment. So that’s the this last month’s biggest nightmare case

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is that water started running through

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like the people

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in Michigan

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Oh, suppose you wanted to this, actually but pretty happy with all the hell turned up? Yeah, they’re they’re very happy.

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This this was a real point of contention for 40 years.

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Now it’s

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And the nice thing about it is the upper half of this whole three legs

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anyway, that’s really glad to report that sort of, you know, I feel some sort of difference. They’re working long, there are a lot of hours. Jimmy housing

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sounds like seven days a week, 2020 hours a day, two shifts a day.

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All right.

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So just just real brief on gesture, little, we’re continuing to have conversations in house with the departments and divisions within the city, the city manager’s office and such, and trying to continue to work through the process of notifying impacted individuals for cash in lieu.

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So we’re still working through that process, we thought that

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PR Pa was going to have in front of the Northern board in November, a couple of their sales for their wedding gap parent water, that’s now looking like it’s gonna go to the board in December. So we’re gonna have to wait and see. So we really don’t have any new information on the front of transactions in the parent water, but expected to have two of the three in front of the board in December and then the third one would be in front of the board sometime the first quarter so

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if we have all that information will be that in December but it just a real brief update that we’re really what resources staff is working on our internal process for communication of any future changes, whatever whatever those may be. So

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the process of informing those people that are going to be impacted by this going yeah, we’re just wanting to make sure that we’re not missing anybody that when we we have a good way to communicate any future changes so that anybody that

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is in the process of development, they will be aware of those changes and have that time to react to

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So am I hearing correctly that we may or may not have a final evaluation for may not have that in December? That’s what you’re hearing.

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Okay, definitely first quarter. It sounds like first quarter that’s what they’re and when they take it to the board it’ll just be the board getting their approval to then complete their transaction and so I don’t know how long it will take after their approval for the TRPA the person that the entity that’s receiving the wishing to purchase the water that that may take

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a few months. Approval is kind of a nice official it is the official piece is

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everything at that point

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anyone else?

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Okay major project listings

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off about their brains got a chance to work

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our way

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questions about it

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everybody happy with it.

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Very good. All right.

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Long term planning Ken’s got some comments as

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soon as your items

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Yeah, what we’re wanting to do is just I guess,

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broach the subject we’re not asking for any input even in the input or decisions today, but

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Over the last few years, we’ve been kind of thinking about what waterboard what actions the waterboard takes on things. And what we have before us. Probably even today’s agenda might be a little bit.

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illustrative, we have noted all the activities that have

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to be realized it seems like

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that is slowing down over time.

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And a lot of projects we’ve been looking at and a lot of things we’ve done waterboard

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seem to be coming to fruition, I think it’s, it’s really good. It shows the results of long term planning on the waterboard solid staff wanted to do was just have a conversation with the board about

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what what the board sees,

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or has an interest in doing as we go forward, we don’t have anything to put out. Other than, you know, there are some areas that we may want to consider. If we go back and look at like our charge charge, or water board, you know, it’s really, first and foremost is the water supply. And I was an incredible job of that over the years. But also, if there’s a little bit of a charge there for water quality, and we’ve had a number of water quality issues and water quality things that we’ve brought up over the years.

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And, but there’s probably, you know, there might be some areas that the board might be interested in, going forward with, you know, I know

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right now,

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for we’ve probably worked with the board and the staff and externally, for a

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in stream flow program for 20 years we worked, we worked in industry full program for years, and really in conjunction with the same rain looked at our Conservancy District will help us do that. And Boulder County and lions and

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a lot of people have put that together. Some of those kinds of things that are specifically water supply related that we want to believe community is interested in and would like us to move forward. So we might want to look at a few of those types of things.

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Right now the district as tree management plan that put together

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that plan and they’re continuing to move forward with that we appreciate all their efforts are there. So really what we wanted to do is kind of broach the subject and let waterboard think about it. Either. We talked about the next month or January or something like that.

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Are you concerned about anything, you know, your staff, bringing the right things to you? Are there areas you would like to step out in the future?

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And I’m not going to try to throw anything on the table. But you know, maybe some areas like

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storm drainage,

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water quality downstream or is anything anything you know, are you comfortable with water, drinking water work, routine, you know, just kind of want waterboard to think about that, you know, what’s the future waterboard? And where do we want to go? I would propose if waterborne one. Once we’re more than happy to do some kind of strategic planning effort, if you feel that’s necessary and rain, somebody where we could look at what we do and how we do it. We do it right. Also, I always like to remind even ourselves as much as anybody, you know, water boards Advisory Council. And, and so, you know, we would want to talk with counsel, do you know, counsel, are you getting everything in one word? Are you getting the advice you want in the water arena? Is there anything more you would like? And so not trying to not try to throw anything out there other than with offer to the waterboard that if

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you any process or bring anything up? Feel free to think about that. And over the next couple, two or three months, we can maybe talk about that and if there’s anything you would like us to do more. So we just want to make sure we’re we’re meeting our work needs from staff and bring the items in need. Is there any areas you need to review to expand upon and crack on?

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I personally am very

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Interested in water quality, I think we have good water quality, but I think water quality issues are gonna become increasingly more of an important part of picture for water utilities. So like, and I’m talking about affordable water quality and talking about ethos and talking about lead lines, things like that. And that’s, you know, distribution, system oriented, and treatment oriented. But I would be happy to have more of that information. You know, we’re kind of a public conduit to, to get this call at the discretion of city council, but we’re a public conduit as well. So I would love to have more conversations around that. It’s not my area of expertise. So I don’t have any questions. But it’s something that I think is increasingly more and more important in our industry. And, like farming brought the water tank. Yeah, yeah.

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touch on that. So yeah, another thing that I’ve wanted to do in the past amount of speaking up, because I do have, you know, almost 10 years on the board, you know, kind of new, in a weird way is that there’s the water loss audit. And that is definitely distribution system.

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And everything from like billing in customer information system stuff for the water loss audit is this huge thing. It doesn’t have to be hard. But it’s a it’s a conservation measure, that’s revenue positive. And my gosh, that’s neat.

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And so I would be interested in seeing how the four could support that and or educate Council on it too. Because it’s a, it’s a free activity, like you can save water, you can save money,

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or, you know, make more money

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for that. So those would be two things I’d be excited about, and they our distribution system significantly. I’d like to see a little bit more on water distribution, the distribution system and have a better understanding of how that works, the left and

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the right.

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Give them all kinds of

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water quality is very important. But water quantity is certainly an important factor. I’d love to hear more about instruments on what we can do to push that a little bit more. And along with that, I think I’d like to hear more about what’s going on with fish passage in particular, and how that impacts the city from that perspective, knowing that like, sounds like the bandwidth is soon maybe off sooner, but maybe the next app, you know, that might be involved in that. What did that mean, to the city? From? Again, I’m thinking, you know, we lost the bonus ditch, you know, we had to in order to make that elevation.

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We had to do like nine drop structures. And what was added back? So the same thing was back with, do you lose that? We deal with that? What? What are the successful?

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Because we’ve got what, what’s the

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fish passage? kind of book now? That, you know, may get a little bit on?

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Yeah, we actually get

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to make certain certainly, you know, again,

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I’m aware of some of the partnerships. But

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yeah, it was great to hear to pump back as much our priority and how do we how we kind of pushed some of those things, if there’s such advantages to the city.

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Always an issue with dollars, right? Yeah. And the timing and people and to be able to

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have more discussions about maybe those long range capital projects and how we can better partner with other folks to make those things happen.

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You know, speaking of water,

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maybe it’s been said,

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already, but I’m curious state of our planet, talking about lightning.

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What’s the state of our facility?

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per se? I mean, at what point? Is there a concern

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as it age and when we do about it if

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I’d rather have something proactive rather than

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disaster disasters, determine when we get in and do something so yeah, we get them talked about that a little bit. Like to know that we have a fairly safe infrastructure as well with that. Yeah, asset management and distributions. Yeah, yeah. Almost a deeper dive into that fantastic figure that they had that last month or the month before where it was like, all of these kind of like, time time periods where you know, where things are starting to

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come out of

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starting theory or whatever lifecycle assessment,

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like a deeper dive into something like that figure would be a visual or a nice supplement.

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I will say that I mean, so

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water quality is my area of expertise. So

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I’d love to hear more about that.

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Something that came to mind as we were talking, as you start to recycle water, of course, this amazing water quality that we do have here online starts to deteriorate I like so you take water that has come out of the wastewater treatment plant, you pump it back upstream, and then you say, well, we’ll use that again, you know, of course, you use it on the lawn or something, and that’s fine. But if you’re using it

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in municipal deliveries, for drinking water, I mean, there will be an inherent quality loss that really hit down, you can do a whole lot. I mean, taking water from Crystal Clear streams in the mountain. I mean, obviously, that’s better, right. So so there’s some quality issues just associated with water reuse, reuse that

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came up. That said, I’m I’ve always been kind of fascinated by the concept by these exchanges. And like these different points of diversion and all these kinds of things, right, where, where what happens in the middle, right. And that’s where these instream flow type programs really need to kind of like show show their magic and their work essentially, is ensuring that that even when you are changing, where you’re taking water from and you’re exchanging pointed version from here to there, or whatever, over you’re putting water back in the river down here, but you’re taking it from up here. And there’s a sketch in between where where those instrument blow programs are really important, and how

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to add Marshall in here, but I am curious about what does counsel think about what they’re getting from us? Yeah, I really don’t know, because I never hear. But certainly there’s some opinions.

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I just don’t know, it can’t be my question, because we have already aligned counsel, marginally post election, what is their process today convene, and really prioritize as a collective once they have some turnover, or is that just, I’ve lived for 23 or 24 years, I need to do with sequence perspective, because they do travel with some regularity, that doesn’t need to create new focus don’t intentionally go through, here’s what we want to do, or basaltic, white hot, kind of once a month basis, whatever the witness is, but their work.

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But it would be nice to have some more directions, we don’t get a lot of top down direction,

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which is okay, but if they had something that you’re more interested in,

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and knowing that like when he asked, and it was a pretty significant project for the city, at what level?

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Are you or, you know, involved in any kind of organization, to the new council members, so that they have a better understanding of some of these operations? So yeah, we actually do have normally, you can say, every voice out of Louis, normally our

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time, or the new council members come down and meet with staff in each of the division.

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Always want to come down to the water department. And the number of times, you know, we we get like an hour.

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I’m not gonna load don’t get the union rest.

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But, yeah, we do get an opportunity to lease documents, and then, you know, kind of explain what the department has. And more than anything else, give them a face and a need or be able to access. But yeah, it always helps. More conversation. So we’re more than happy to talk to counsel and get more feedback.

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That’s pretty good. Start with the lesson.

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And I think that’s important. When we do stuff like that.

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I know I appreciate that feedback. And feel free to you know, think about over the next few months and there’s more we’re more than happy to.

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So sometimes you just keep plugging away and don’t take time to say hey

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are we doing

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a presentation

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I never see

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It’s all that all work. So I appreciate that it was

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a little bit of fear, I really do understand you.

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That’s it, that’s the level of detail that I would enjoy. If for some topics, every, every meeting, to be honest, like I said, just picked some random topic doesn’t even necessarily matter. Because as we start to sew things together, we just increase our overall understanding of this, in general. I mean,

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so I was fantastic.

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I mean, personally, I mean, I’ve heard about the pump back for a long, long time, you know, and it was always, you know, we’re gonna go through your open space to do it was it really negative overtones for me, until it occurred, you know, and saw the big picture and what the advantages are for the exchanges and the things that you can do further upstream? So I thought it was a great presentation. Very helpful. I mean, just as another example, that could go on to the list, like, I would like that same, I mean, this would be really heavy, to be honest, but that same level of detail on just like, all the dishes, really, right, like, where they go from and to and who, who, who has the lion’s share of the shares? And, and how you got involved, eventually, and, you know, to what extent be operating with partners through the entire system?

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Yeah, I was gonna say,

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so, of course, it would have to be small bits, you know, maybe you break it into the upper, upper DITZLER ditch kind of concept, or even fourths or something, or something that we, you know, take off those small pieces, or the biggest ones, we start with the first or whatever it is, but with some level of detail on how

Unknown Speaker 1:56:54
we got an expert in the

Unknown Speaker 1:56:57
world, we’re gonna be going where are we going to be in 10 years with these companies? Yeah.

Unknown Speaker 1:57:04
Good conversation.

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Sometimes, yeah.

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Yes, we do. But as they aged out, or your place, it’s very challenging, and my replacement describe that any concept of what that actually, you know, 20 years ago, we got a weekly report.

Unknown Speaker 1:57:29
I can’t remember the guy who submitted this right or for decades.

Unknown Speaker 1:57:33
There’s a lot of detail, but I don’t hear much about.

Unknown Speaker 1:57:41
So there’s a lot to do can I hope, you know, you can’t retire early January.

Unknown Speaker 1:57:47
Well, we’ll see. But, but actually, to kind of wrap on into we have been putting, or we’re trying to put in the list of waterboard items. We’re trying to put like, one a month.

Unknown Speaker 1:58:04
Because we don’t want to overload the meetings, but we’ll try to try to do that process when we bring in things like that. So feel free to look at that list we have and say, you know, I’d rather

Unknown Speaker 1:58:17
hear about this or sometimes I like hear about that. Yeah, we you know, we send out things like our our presentation

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this month.

Unknown Speaker 1:58:28
And we’d be really good. And the good thing is being recorded, so everybody can you know the community and make it a learning process for where do those recordings

Unknown Speaker 1:58:43
are waterboard city?

Unknown Speaker 1:58:47
She’s I was gonna ask you about things like the slides that are presented. And that can sound like a moot point it’s recorded.

Unknown Speaker 1:58:54
But do

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you have access to the slides? Yeah.

Unknown Speaker 1:59:04
I would, I mean, maybe we could do a place where they live.

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the partners that come in and share I would like to go back and review those things periodically, just because I’m, I’m, too.

Unknown Speaker 1:59:19
I’m not smart enough to absorb everything immediately. So it would be nice to review those integrate.

Unknown Speaker 1:59:28
So far. Well, thank you very much.

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All right.

Unknown Speaker 1:59:35
Any other items that somebody wants to bring up?

Unknown Speaker 1:59:40
Seeing none, is there a motion to adjourn? Motion to adjourn?

Unknown Speaker 1:59:46
All right. And second.

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