Parks and Recreation Board Meeting – October 2023
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hereby call this meeting, October 9 meeting of the Parks and Recreation advisory board order. Can we have the roll call?
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Here Scott Condon here is David
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H. Lewis. Yeah, so moody here. Nicholas Novello here. Dan Olson here. Council liaison, Tim Weiner.
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Great. So let’s move to approval of the agenda. Can we jump first to after you do the initial stuff? A few new business A and B first.
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Thank you for
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any other proposed amendments to the agenda.
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Okay, can I have a motion for approval of the agenda as amended.
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I move to approve the meant the agenda as amended. Second.
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All those in favor?
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Okay, so now let’s move to approving the previous month’s minutes or any edits to them?
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A couple of minutes.
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So number, letter B recreational ballot initiative resolution.
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On the first sentence says the board would like to make propose changes to I think it’s to the
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creation ballot initiative resolution.
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And then second bullet at the end. I think it should be population and transportation.
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sort of the next page. The second kind of big paragraph that starts with Jeff reasoner stated, I think we just need to clarify about was talking about the
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recreation impact fee funds. And so those funds can only be used to build new recreation and leisure type facilities.
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And then there’s just kind of some lack of clarity in that. So
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since these funds cannot go toward existing
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projects or facilities, yeah, it must go to new programming. So what is being proposed is that
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the recreation impact fee funds,
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go to the new recreation center and 5 million
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of fun files generated through the ballot question could be used to do improvements on immigration. So
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I said one other on the first line of Section B. Resolution Rs 23 dash one,
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which is correct later, but it’s the number one solution.
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Okay, any other
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If not, we need a motion to pass approve the minutes. I’ll move to approve the minutes of the previous month’s meeting as amended. Second, I second. All those in favor?
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Dan abstained because I wasn’t here.
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Okay, do we have public invited to be hurt? This was actually
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okay. Great. Sitting in the public invited to be heard.
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Great, right. Okay.
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If there’s no public invited to be heard, per the amended agenda, let’s go to Item A under new business. So one of the things we talked about at our January meeting was inviting Angela Brill to come and talk to us about the art in public places.
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Process and Angela’s here to do that.
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So, name is Angela Brown, and I’m
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art historian by trade with an emphasis in theory and criticism, so don’t worry too much.
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Today, I’m just bringing you an overview of the art in public places process. It’s
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Very, it’s there’s a lot of images. Hopefully I get through all of your questions during the program and or during presentation. And then of course, if there’s going to be in the clarify about that, then so I’m not going to read this to you. But overall, we’re going to talk about 1% for the Arts, which is what we are, and then how art in public places functions within that. And clearly you do not have the city font font. And so here we go.
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So the art in public places, you know, 22,000 years ago, folks were writing on cave walls and 2000 years ago, and Pompeii folks were writing in describing their societal influences. And in 1872, the United States decided to do a public art initiative to put funding towards identifiers of cultural history in public space. And then in 1959, and Philadelphia, the first percent for the arts program was put into the United States in Philadelphia. And so I put Robert Indiana’s love up just because I think that it ends up being one of those quintessential unique identifiers of the city of love and what public art really can, can be at its best, and that’s fine. So this is from 1976
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are in public places here in in Longmont was established in 87. And then it was codified in 1993. And we are funded through a 1% levy on construction line of the city improvement projects. Most of them there are exceptions. And so what that means is any construction line item for a CIP project that is $50,000 or more 1% of that goes into a special fund for public art. In our code, it does not specify that that 1% has to be used specifically for the project from whence, from where those funds came. Sometimes it’s best practices. Sometimes you have next slide, and it just 1% Aren’t those 1% funds come from lots of different places. So
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our mission, of course, is to provide manage and promote a diverse and ongoing collection of public art for the enjoyment of the citizens of Walmart. And we are administered through the Longmont Museum, managed by a 15 person commission like yourselves that are appointed by city council. And we are recruiting right now as you might imagine, are as well, which closes on the 13th. So
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brick sculpture here on sixth, the main was the first piece into the public art collection in 1991, by Ken Williams scan states, very cheap, and it is.
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put our guiding principles go from of course, envision long, long and certainly from Council direction and their initiatives. But I point out that the quality of life, I guess, if you will, from economic vitality opportunities for all, and then the livable corridors and neighborhood, this is infused what will be called in envision Loma it says art and culture or in art or in the art stuff. And so that would be where hardened public places tends to fall. But specifically, we fall in 3.4 C, where a calls out public art as creating more through beautifying, of course, but also quality of life aspect. And so but then I like to distill this down a little bit because what is public art and public art, it tells a story. It tells the story of people in a place of public space that is intended to be for everyone. And of course, it often is visual art. And so the art and public places commission currently is working on trying to find ways through the digital world to extend the public art collection to be more available for everyone. But of course equity. And accessibility is always at the fore of our minds, but tends to be intended for everyone is generally created through a public art process, a very open, transparent process. And the community has the opportunity to directly impact their surroundings through the public art process in that identifier of place.
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It tends to generate community pride, and it tends to be a community narrative and time. And again, I know that this is very
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so let’s talk about long art in public places in our annual programs. So we have our own the move, which is a program which is loaning artworks or borrowing artworks from up to seven pieces or sets I guess, if you will, from regional artists. Regional is
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So, as far as someone wants to come and ship them to us with the stipend that they are providing, so we have had folks as far as Idaho, this piece on the left, who was from Sedalia, northern Colorado Jade window was working in Colorado marble there on the right. And then these are our 2020, some of our 2023 offerings, of course, the processing after Rodin’s Thinker on the left, which is very whimsical, we have a bronze interactive piece where kiddos can climb onto the little frog at the Museum of beautiful limestone piece and St. Stephen’s. And just this year, we’ve extended a number of plants in the old
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tree grates, where forestry was forced to remove a number of trees. And so instead of putting trees back because that wasn’t scheduled to happen, we instead have built plants. And now we’re addressing that area on Fourth Avenue. We also did some two dimensional art, I guess two dimensional or wall hangings because it’s really two dimensional indoor this year. So John Norman stainless wings, on the left was an interactive piece where there were little feet on the ground, and you could go and encourage people to stand and take their picture with the wings on the left and then still on the Safety and Justice building on the right is Becky wearing seals, digital photography, she makes tiny little models of humans and then puts them up into very large stage but then creates these vignettes. So people are actually just little tiny. And Becky wearing steel is a really good example of the vitality and the prominence of Longmont artists, she was a student went to high school grew up in Longmont is a thriving visual artists down in Denver. And when she saw this opportunity to do a display in Longmont, she jumped at it and it just so happened that the Commission chose this work without even knowing that she was from Walmart. So we really do try to choose the artwork that’s on display, specifically for the art and the space rather than the artist. So we’re really trying to think of it from an equitable lens. That way, the piece that is around the corner here in this building and milk pods, I don’t know if you’ve seen it, it’s just around the corner. It’s lovely photos, it was actually in the shortlist for the museum space. But because of the light in the museum, we were afraid that it would damage it over time because these works tend to be up for a year. This is what our contract is. And so we didn’t want to ruin it. Anyway, that is a lovely piece of
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our other annual program is shop art which we work with LPC is partnership, it came into play in 2010. And these are the little markets for the pad mounts which is very specific box that LPC allows us to, and the community put them on display for the community to choose the winning design. And then artists are paid a stipend arguably the best. In Colorado, we were above market value on this too. And so here is the picture of the selections from 2023. And then down on the right hand corner is the pieces on display that will tell marketplace for folks to vote, we had over 2000 unique votes. And we take that voting very seriously talk to
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the city clerk to make sure that it is a very straightforward process. And then of course artists up on the right, going through the process of implementing his box. We have over 80. And I think that the collection overall at this point is we’re getting close to 175. So nearing 2000. It’s quite a collection, but the boxes themselves, I think we’re close to 80. And then this is from 2019. We’re updating our map with GIS but you can see that they really are all over town. So something for real. Yeah. All right, I would say arguably our
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beloved program. And so some recent projects, we were working on addressing standard operating procedure for graffiti abatement, especially along pedestrian bypass, it’s been a challenge. So this artwork at ninth and alpine was originally painted in 2018 and idle hands during the COVID times weren’t helpful for us. And so we came back from mission the artist again to do another community painting kind of under paint by numbers. I wish I could tell you have those stats somewhere. But it was over 200 participants nearly 18 to 20 kids under the age of 18. And only one hailstorm.
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But we learned a lot about how to wrangle wrangle folks and
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and keep everybody busy. That was way too many volunteers for any given time. This is a number of the commissioners who came out to to get work in and then Evan the intern, bless his heart. Evan pan on the right, was our high school intern who worked on this project and was really very valuable. And that’s part Millbury. Finishing up the touches with the aerosol cans after that. The Butterfly Pavilion was a project that came about with the Sister Cities Association that wanted to do a piece to dedicate and commemorate the 25 years of their partnership with C u dot Guzman. It was supposed to go into the Ocala Park, which is a park or do you know what we’re not quite there yet on that park. So we had to hustle, same kind of thing during the COVID time to find a new place for it to go. And so Sister Cities met with superintendents of the park. They chose Flanders Park, which is an idyllic scene, of course, overlooking McIntosh lake you can see the Twin Peaks. And so every year going forward when the exchange happens, and down in the left hand corner, you can see some of the kiddos from the exchange, they’ll be meeting at the park meeting at the Pavilion, but it also is a gathering space for community. So it serves that dual purpose of an identifying mark that is symbolic and representative of their home in some of those colors, but sits in Longmont and really is evocative of that partnership. So this is a quick and dirty look at our project management kind of scale, if you will, at any given time. Because we are cyclical we have a project queue. From staff people to looking at our CIP projects, we try and narrow and get a like an overall view of all of the potential projects and opportunities. And then every fall, the executive team of our 15 person board, narrows it down and prioritizes those projects, and then we move forward after research, some things fall come up the queue, so I’m gonna fall down.
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In the planning phase, a task force goes is nominated and a selection panel which tends to be a number of residents, and finalizing all of those details. And then the execution, which is really, really fun part, which is when we put out the request for qualifications to an artist. And then we narrow it down to a field of artists that are experienced in the kind of artwork that we’re looking for, then we pay those artists a fair wage to actually create proposals. Those proposals come forward, open community meetings happen, anyone can give their opinions to the selection panel of what they liked, and what they want to see. And then the selection panel narrows it down to to one artists that they want to go under contract with an alternate. And that goes into internal review, contract phase fabrication, installation, dedication.
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all things so.
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So some of the things that we have coming up and some of the things that aren’t in public places likes to see, such as your fox meadows, which doesn’t have its name on the left, and clover Meadows on the right. We’re in the infrastructure piece of it is already in the project that the parks department is going forth. So we’re bringing the artwork into an integrating, so we’re not double doing duty. We’re not double, pouring concrete. We’re not double forklifting and all of those bits and pieces. So these are two exciting projects in the heartland public places tuition has allocated 60,000. For each of those. You have the three part projects that are coming about these two, and then also a turf. I always call astroturf. And then Steve, laughs and
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turf synthetic turf, which doesn’t really make a lot of sense firm public places to participate in the integration project there. So some of those dollars that had been reallocated into these two. And again, it doesn’t have to be a one for one that exact 1% to this project, but it sure is close.
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The Pratt Bridge is a project that will be underway. And then its subsequent sister Bridge, which will be the Boston bridge so this call for artists will be going out and these are
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one of the parks the fox Meadow Park as of 20 $23 allocation, averages 23 observations, and then Clover will be 2044.
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Other things that we get to do with a program from 1987 is take care of things we already have. So this is gather enough people which is right across the street and the Army Corps of Engineers as you know is going to be putting in a levee and it’s gonna go right we’re not pieces, so we are going to be deconstructing it and
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salvaging as much of it as we can, putting it into storage, and then we’re having some structural come in and look at what it would cost to, in fact, refabricate it somewhere else, potentially, in Isaac Walton, and then our public places, we’ll look at the cost. And then they’ll make the decision to reallocate or put allocate those funds into reconstruction, or to decommission the object.
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And who knows what that will look like. But works, I think similarly to a pneumatic truck scale, or did when you walk out and you gather enough people, the weight goes down and electrical signal goes out, it goes up what I call the worldly good and the worldly good, kind of hoping some like a butterfly hasn’t worked for many years. And of course, the flusher didn’t help. And then low hanging fruit, which I hate that term, but it’s true. These traffic cabinet historic photos are super popular. And the commission is very excited about taking the Times called photography archive that lives in the museum, plus a lot of archival photos that we have, and putting them on traffic cabinets in a vinyl wrap around town. So it’ll be a fun way to see the museum out in the world.
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And then going back to that project queue we work with, we collaborate with lots of different folks around the city. Of course, we work with our neighborhood, folks in the Neighborhood Improvement projects. The piece on the right play by playing Kitely neighborhood was a grant that we did through the Neighborhood Improvement Project. We work with the downtown district often cross departmentally we worked with growing Water Smart to protect the Unity project at Kensington Park recently, who’s getting hit by mowers and so we fixed the piece and instead of putting concrete around it, instead, we put a water smart gardens if you haven’t been over there to see that brilliant, fantastic use of cross departmental energies. And things that we’re looking into, of course of the Civic Center Library, we’ve looked at some silos, the Nino Gallo restroom, which is an adaptive reuse of a silo that’s going to become the restroom or something that we’ll be doing a mural on. Of course, we have a couple of new fire stations. And then we again, we have a lot of maintenance. It’s not the pretty stuff, but it’s true. Sophomore Main Street Bridge has some has some maintenance and then let picnic at left hand the big ants, we need break. So in a nutshell, is art in public places. How do they do on time? Not bad. All right.
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How can I answer all of your questions? Anyone have questions?
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we have this new process, something he did and something in his art in public places part of that when when you guys do the new parks,
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eight, slash five all that you know, is art in public places in from the get go or after the fact you say oh, now what should we put in? Or I just wonder how it works?
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Good question. I was yeah, what’s your you can go Go ahead we’ve already working with with our team on Fox meadows and clover Meadows. And the money from our construction budget that does hit their bucket. So it’s not that we have to award we don’t award artists are 20 selections early on, but we collaborate so then they can get their process started and work to find out what the most effective to saw a site or
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size or I mean, that’s somewhere design
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phase right now actually masterplanning Fox Meadows so you guys are coming up with some pretty fun ideas. Yeah, Clover Meadows is a little further in design. Because it started Yeah. Right. So it’ll be a little bit lighter. It won’t be quite as integrated. But yeah, they’re involved. So they are involved or that’s great. That’s that’s the way it ought to be. I think she’s even Yeah, she’s angel has been at all of our meetings. Yeah. Wednesday to. Yes, absolutely. But the integration is really it’s where it looks the most seamless. For example, some of the things that they’ve been speaking about in the community meetings at Fox meadows, and who knows if it’ll go in is potentially an amphitheater. Well, if that is the case, and an amphitheater could be in you know what I’m talking
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say, a mosaic project along that so it the the artist will get the artist under contract at the same time that you’re
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the parks, conceptual is coming into play so that the art and the fabrication of the amphitheater happening at the same time other than the park goes in and then we come in afterwards, it’s just as not as seamless. Okay. Yeah. Has a far better look. Right. That would be my opinion to
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a question that might be related to that because I was just wondering how when you put out an RFP, for artists for like Fox mountains or clover,
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do you put out like a theme or something
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that you want them to respond to like, what kind of guidance? Is it just? Yeah. Any idea you have? Or is it? That’s a very good question. So we start with the RFQ. And the difference between the RFQ and RFP is we’re asking for qualifications. And there’s certainly a narrative that goes along with that. So let’s use the word whimsy, because I think that everyone you can see in your mind, but the difference between maybe a figurative bronze versus a whimsical piece of public art, there’s certainly the distinction there, right. And so within the narrative of the qualifications, we say, we’re looking for our mosaic artists who uses mixed media or even something like a, if we wanted to use upcycled materials only, who would put that into that narrative of what it is that we are looking for. And then artists are going to come forward, and they’re going to put their qualifications of the artwork that they’ve done before, depending on the scale and size of the project. You know, if you want to bring in an artist who maybe doesn’t have a lot of experience, or if you’re really looking for someone who has a lot of experience, like the proper edge, that’s going to mean permitting, that’s going to mean getting different equipment down. So you know, we look at it that way. And so there’s always subject matter experts that help this selection panel along, but really, they look all of the applications that come forward. And when they’re looking at a park project, anybody who’s submitted their paintings for their qualifications,
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them along them along, and so the shortlist kind of
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narrows itself down. But then that’s where the good stuff happens, because then we pay those artists from the shortlist to bring their actual proposals together. And that’s when they do a little bit of heavy lifting. And say, this is really what I’m thinking based upon my qualifications as an artist. I’m using my methodologies. And this is what we want to bring. Great. Thanks. Sure.
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Just a brief question, the digital implementation that you brought up there briefly at the start? Is that something that also has a physical element, like it’s a, it’s a touch screen at the outside, or you’re just talking about better photography, so it’s available online? Yeah, I think that where we’re starting right now is going to be a QR code that ends up being on the artwork label, and then has tour information, physical information that someone should hear, they actually spoke with the School of sight and hearing, I can’t remember the name of the actual school, but down in Colorado Springs and said, we’re thinking about implementing Braille onto our labels. And they said, Oh, please don’t, because we are so technologically advanced now that folks can actually use their smart devices. Or you could go get one from the library. And the devices are able to find that QR code and then zip straight into the profile of the piece and go for that way. So it’s going to be a slow rollout. It’s going to be starting with tours. So very guided direction of going to these pieces downtown. And then we’ll campuses where we’re starting. And then hopefully along the resilient st frame, and then something like this has a seek and find aspect to it. So how many kittens are there? How many kites are that are entirely. And so hopefully, the goal is that slowly but surely, we will continue to build these these assets and make this visual piece of artwork at the very least interactive with non sighted people or others. Yeah. And that was, the other thing I had to ask was beyond the disability element of it, like Trump getting kids involved with it as well. You mentioned like, oh, go spot having cancer? Yeah. Is that? Is there some sort of planning for implementing more of that as well? I wouldn’t say necessarily planning but certainly our community projects like this are the quickest and easiest way to get kids involved in the public art process. We do field trips with the st. Green Valley School District all of the time, which is great and over COVID It was actually something we were really successful in is bringing digital field trips have to go and find things around Longmont so kids can kind of go out on their own. But yeah, we’re working with the school district all the time, because the littles I think that are a little bit harder, but certainly within the museum, the discovery days program, along with public art, there’s a beautiful marriage that way.
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what’s the best way to stay abreast of new things? I look for a newsletter or anything on the website? Yes. So you can sign up for the loop newsletter there are only quarterly we really don’t blast the general public with a lot of things, social media, Facebook, and we got an Instagram account. So we got approved. So slowly but surely that as I understand the website with the city is being revamped, which can be very helpful for us, but the entire collection is on the website. You just have to scroll
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it’s so many pieces of art.
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Sorry, I can’t be there in person, I’m getting over COVID. So you don’t want me there in person. But it’s great to be here with all of you.
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So anyways, I’m Rachel Trent, I’m a Director of Community impacted foreign teacher experience. We are an internal education organization, currently based in Boulder, soon to be based in Lafayette. And prior to this role, I started about 10 months ago, I worked for Wildlife Trust recent volunteers in Longmont with Taylor for a time so she and I go back and
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but I’m just pleased to be working with her again and with the city of Warren lot moving forward about some really exciting things. So I’m going to
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talk a little bit about our Acer Kids program that primarily been based in Lafayette up till now and that we’re working to bring to Walmart. And then we’ll leave myself a few minutes for a quick video that speaks to it better than I can. And then of course, if you want to ask a question.
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Um, I’m going to share my screen if that’s okay. And hopefully that works. If it doesn’t, I will go without the slides. And that’ll be fine too. What? I’m gonna try to share my screen.
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my experience, actually putting it in my present presenter mode doesn’t work great.
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So let me know if anything gets messed up with that. But like I said, I’m with Thorn Thorn does a variety of zealots sort of a traditional environmental education programming from summer camp to in school programming and field trips throughout Colorado School District and also with freezing rain School District, you can see you know, we’ve got a moment to go through a lot of this quickly. So I normally have about 15 minutes to talk. But
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we’ve got, you know, 17,700 participants a year, we really work
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hard to engage with parts of the community that have been historically left out from environmental education programming. And that’s really a big mission for us in nature kids hoping to celebrate or at least that is a really core piece of that effort.
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So nature kids started in 2016 with a great outdoors Colorado grant so great outdoors Colorado, as I’m sure you all know, funds all kinds of different projects, including what they call generation wild communities, which are communities where the focus is on engaging youth and families in a really comprehensive suite of programming to ensure that that all youth in the community have access to nature.
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This program started
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In 2016, with a large about $200,000, Grant focus just on community outreach, really asking the community, what they were looking for in Lafayette. And then from there,
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we’re now starting our seventh year of programming. After that initial year of community outreach from the program Lafayette was 20 Plus organizations, this game 100 participants in unique participants, but 15,000 PARTICIPANT engagements.
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The vast majority are Spanish speaking families. So the program is really
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highly bilingual. And the intention is to provide a suite of experiences from pre K through high school back there to background three, integrated with family programming, career pathways and paid employment. And then the initial grant also included several capital construction projects to ensure that all if you live within a state 10 minute walk from nature,
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where you know, there’s a ton of different organizations and they are engaged, you can just see sort of image across the board from local government, the school districts, nonprofits do, really, you know, across the board, Dax mercantile, so not just nonprofits either, really, with the idea that, you know, thorn has a niche in the space of getting your feet outside, but we can’t do it all, we can’t do it all the best. And so the more we work together with other organizations, the more we can provide programming that fills the gaps together, and then really can engage and provide multiple entry points for youth and families. Some of them might be really excited about going on a camping trip, and others who might come for gardening program and others who might want to try equine therapy. And so having many hours, we just need to retake, you know, childcare in the summertime and pre summer camp. So really looking at as many different pieces of the picture as we can, knowing that we can only do that, well, if we do at with partners. I’m in Lafayette,
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the art community that we really ended up prioritizing, because there wasn’t as much and many community assets in Lafayette as in other parts of Boulder County, really focused on neighborhoods serving the Spanish speaking community, particularly around Sanchez Elementary, but also serving pioneer Elementary and Ryan, we really focused a lot of our outreach and our programming and our capital construction in those specific neighborhoods.
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For those reasons,
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come back to that video in a minute. So so like I said, one of the most important pieces in this process that we we also know is crucial for long run when we are able to start
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bringing programming to Longmont is knowing what the unique community needs and assets are in Lafayette. And knowing that those are not the same now, as they were, you know, almost eight years ago, and that they won’t be the same for Longmont and we’ve expanded in a small way to Boulder, the City of Boulder as well, and that they’re very different. They’re two.
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Then, like I said that, that in and of itself and Lafayette, because we had this big ranch to back it up was a $200,000 Almost process of just getting out there connecting with the community, sometimes in nature itself, and asking the questions. So we were really talking directly to folks
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in a really authentic way and working directly with leaders in the community to make sure that we were, we were talking to as many people as possible and getting real answers that you can’t really get unless you are building relationships at the same time.
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Like I mentioned, the other will, when another real core piece of this was that scaffolded approach from pre K through high school building and family engagement and looking at as many different entry points to engagement as possible. So we center this in a lot of ways around head, heart, hands and feet, which mean looking at how we learn how we explore how we connect, how we act. All all of those are pieces of getting us out in nature and families out in nature, when some of them are going to speak differently to different people. And also as you grow up, there’s, you know, there’s different developmentally appropriate pieces. You don’t want to teach a five year old about climate change before they’ve had a chance to learn about the plants and animals in their own backyard and build for a relationship with nature and empathy for the world around them. They’re not going to have as powerful as an impact. So starting and then starting local and building out from there. There’s a lot
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Receiving system. These are the best ways to build connection over time and create, create a community of folks who are connected and want to take action and are, you know, essentially stewards of the environment for the rest of their lives.
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I’ve talked about a lot of this already, but like I said, programming pieces later play really well programming pieces really spans
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the gamut, like I said, fundraiser three summers, Camp camp spots, not just with Thorin, but with other summer camp providers as well. So you know that for a long time, like all these different organizations were in competition with one another. And we really try not to see it that way. So instead, we’re focusing on it that way. It’s okay. Well, we can’t serve everybody. So who else can we pull in to provide more space and more opportunity. So three summer camps, in school and after school programming, family camping trips, family hikes, right in town, and stargazing and Zumba in the park and equine therapy, art programs, really as many different things as we could think up.
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And then, like I mentioned, there were also some capital pieces. We bought the nature play area at Sanchez Elementary, we built some access trails. Some of some parts of the community here in Lafayette could see, you know, certain open spaces but had to go way around because there was like a chain link fence just to get there. So we we worked with the city to shift that so that folks had access, no matter what part of the community they lived in to the open space was so valuable.
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I’m not going to spend a lot of time on here, but we’ve got a ton of data just on the outputs. There’s, you know, one example of summer summer engagement 874 participants on average, 24,000 hours of engagement. In summertime alone, school year engagements, there’s obviously there’s more because we’re able to access every single kid and the three schools that we work with here on Monday, as
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I say here, because I live in Lafayette.
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My admission, the capitol construction, that was also a piece of this project.
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You know, one of the things we heard from folks, when we did that community outreach in the first place was that there are all these gazebo is one of the lake is a real a real gathering place here in Lafayette, but you had to rent them once on what months ahead, online and the system that was only in English. So we built a new gazebo that was non reservable.
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So that folks would have access to a gazebo that they didn’t have to read her mind in a language that they didn’t speak months ahead of time.
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And then, you know, the the most important pieces of this are what, what it’s brought to the community. And one of the biggest things to emphasize the we built this around what we and I say we I wasn’t involved at the beginning. But we as environmental educators knew the benefits of
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time spent in nature because there’s tons of research about it. But what’s emerged as we’ve done evaluation over the past, now six plus years with that, the second bullet here social cohesion and community belonging that’s been one of the biggest pieces not just connection to nature, the connection to the rest of the community connection to the local government, our Lafayette’s open space.
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Agency and staff have been really involved in this project. So connection to local government, not just with an open space. But when Lafayette’s current mayor who is I believe the youngest mayor in the state of Colorado, in the history of Colorado, when he was worth running for a government, it was this community who had met him through these programs, because he was a nice to this community that rallied and spoke at various events and really, like came together. So that and then that belong to one another, and community connection with one another as well. There’s a whole bunch of other highlights, like that appreciation for the outdoors. Time spent in nature. So I’m your sense of place. But this community belonging and cohesion was one that maybe wasn’t quite as anticipated, but it’s really emerged as a theme.
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Because it’s been so vital to what we’ve put together.
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So that’s where we’re coming from in Lafayette. Like I said, what we’ve done here isn’t the same thing that we envisioned bringing to other communities a couple of years ago. These are kids who have expanded to the city of Boulder in a much smaller way. And we did a year long pilot program there to get community impact input from the city there and from the residents there and figuring out what was different
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We can’t base what we’re doing now. And info from seven years ago, the world was an entirely different place. And these are different communities. So looking ahead, you know, we are still going in Lafayette and we just got additional funding from Google to keep the program going in Lafayette, someone is actually building a nature center right here in Lafayette. So will will soon be based in Lafayette ourselves as well. We are expanding the work that we’re doing in Boulder.
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And then most relevant to you all is this pilot that we are working on with Taylor and others in Longmont.
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And in connection with that it’s nature everywhere initiative, that Kaler and myself and a couple of other partners from human services as well as from the nonprofit sector.
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Our core team also has learned from the Community Foundation on it. So we are coming together with this commitment towards long not being a nature everywhere city. And so we’ll be traveling as a team in a couple of weeks to Austin, Texas to start visioning what that looks like, with the anticipation from Thoris side of things, that in 2024, we have, I’m still working on exactly how much but funding to invest in a pilot in Longmont to launch some initial programming, some summer camp scholarships and family programming in conjunction with partners, including the city and one enough reason volunteers and how what applications that are out there Epic Games found to utilize some initial programming is a chance to really get a sense from the community of what what would be valuable, they’re also building on the asset mapping and resource has already been done by folks within the city because one of the great things about one month that Taylor and I talked about is that there are assets already in place in Longmont that Lafayette didn’t have when we started. And so we want to know what’s already happening and how Thornton support it.
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And the biggest reason for this, stop sharing my screen, you don’t need to look at this anymore, um, is that we know from conversation Goko that in the coming year or two, there will be an another wave of generation wild funding, and that they’re really encouraging foreign in partnership with others to apply for new funding. And so we are initial grant and law in Lafayette was nearly $3 million. So there could be a really big investment from Goko. And our ability to launch a program like that with in partnership with folks really already rooted in the city,
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hopefully in 2025. So
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that’s sort of where we’re coming from. And we’re really excited to be working with the city. And like I said, we know that there’s so many amazing things already happening in Longmont. And so our goal is to come in and support and bring what we have and what we’ve learned not to take over the things that are already happening. But really to help network and bring in new partners are excited to be there as part of what we’ve already built.
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But really do that in a way that’s responsive to what the city is already doing. And in conjunction with the folks we’re already working with an open space and Human Services.
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I will pause there. If I have five minutes, I’d love to share our a short video of some of the impact of the program. But it’s if you’re short on time, I fully fine also just going straight to question and answer.
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It’s a short video. Cool. Can you give us five minutes? Cool.
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Let me share my screen again then.
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Okay, can you see that? should pick up your
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project second. There we go. All right. And let me know if you can hear it.
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Did you hear it or not? Yeah, no. I think you sent me a link now so we can find that.
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Yeah, I don’t want to waste your time either. So you can try to pull it up. But I can also just go straight to answering questions. Here. We’ll give me 15 seconds. I’ll see if I can pull it up. And if not, then we’ll just move on. Okay.
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Well available to it online.
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What Taylor is doing that this? That was quick. very speedy. Do you want to pause for a second, though? Or should I start putting a little bit context? This is a question page had about I think something we read in the last minutes from Taylor about the brand. And Keith Knight, their executive director starting this conversation. Probably. There’s three COVID I think and one thing is Rachel Nice job transitioning to the fact that LogMeIn has programs
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Jeremy talked about that to sandstone ranch and stuff. This really this idea of supporting each other is an important piece of what is coming in taking numbers really partnering, building and doing stuff and Taylor quite talked about the afternoon. We’re coming to Austin, but that’s a nice transition, Rachel. Thank you.
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All right, Rachel, you probably won’t be able to hear it on your end. But we’re gonna play it. I’ll tell you when we’re done. That’s fine.
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matric kids started back in 2017. And basically, it’s a program with with the goal of trying to get more youth out into nature and connecting with nature. And so the way we do that is through lots of programs,
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programs for all ages, you look them up labels, Persona is always good, either popular in other communities, as soon as possible. So is that is the only benefit that is certainly important to
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the things that they learn and the things they get to do family archery, hikes, fishing, all the different things. It’s amazing. We offer them options, we really tap into what their interests are. Because that’s a fun little things, we’re actually following the children and their designers. It’s not like school, where in school, you’re spending eight hours in a desk learning things non stop out here, you have the freedom to do what you want. The high school students that are at these camps that work with these kids are amazing. Some of them have been through and have their own problems. And they really, they really help them they really mentor them. I like that we get to see like kids connecting with nature, and we get outside and we get to like, hang out with them. Catch crayfish play games with them and just see them like really develop a love for the outdoors. I feel like a lot of families would think to themselves like I can take my kids and just because of money reasons. But here it’s more of like, you can’t come because it’s for anybody and whoever needs it or wants to use me see what I thought of the apps I’m I’m gonna be somebody who would actually Yeah, so when I ask people they feel you’re so people that you might escape with run in campus.
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And can resume you’re gonna see, so I think they open has opened their mind more to the outdoors. That’s amazing. My seven year old he’s the one that said to me, you know, these or whatever you find out here in nature so it’s like yeah, that’s pretty awesome honor because they love letting these kids use their creativity and use their curiosity in ways where they can like positively impact their own lives and drive them to like explore new things you know open career futures for them something that they’re interested in something that they’re passionate about job being so good, we’re not gonna la comunidad stay por que
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from my experience, I feel like this program
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It means a lot to nature kids this summer has changed.
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And for these families and these kids to be out, doing these experiences, I mean, they were probably never doing,
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you know, on their own. I know that those experiences last like.
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Originally, the first video, oh,
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there we go. Yeah. So I’m happy to answer your question. I’m, um, I’m really excited to spend this time in a couple of weeks with Taylor, David and two folks from
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and families, right. So I think that’ll be a really, really awesome for us to spend some time together and be to get to learn more from them about where we can go to.
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Yeah, and just to quickly talk about nature everywhere. So yeah, that’s Rachel’s mentioned, this is where we’re going in two weeks. David, Rachel, me and yeah, two from children. You can families, and human services are heading to Austin for a vision lab. It’s something we applied for, and we got awarded just a few weeks ago, really, and it’s a national program, and it sort of will help us kickstart this whole thing. It’s a two year process where this, this program helps us,
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you know, work with communities to get you know, develop focus groups, and figure out what the communities want. And then they set up sort of a framework, they have all the templates, to sort of set these programs out, develop strategies, make it happen. And then kind of measure things as we go along. And it also comes with some potential funding opportunities, see grants, secrets that I think are 10 to 50k. And then catalyst grants after our two years of for continuing to develop programs. So with, you know, Rachel mentioned kind of potential good co funding in the future. And this is it’s sort of a drop in the bucket, but it’s also a significant opportunity, and it helps us get the ball rolling.
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So yeah, I think that’s the other partner. That was also one that foundation. Yeah, one one community foundation is the other member of our core team, besides Thorn, and then some human services. But we’ll also be, we’ll be working with other nonprofits and organizations and businesses potentially throughout this process. But yeah, that’s the core team is long about Community Foundation, children, youth and families, community neighborhood resources on us parks and natural resources, and then born.
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So I think part of what was in the board packet last time, you mentioned building an outdoor equity vision. Is that part of what you guys will be doing?
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I don’t Well, yeah. I don’t really know what was impacted last time, but yes, it was. Yeah, I’ve seen your updates on Oh, sure. Yeah. So
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yeah, this is uh, the whole thing is building in or improving youth outdoor equity in Longmont. So the goal will be serving these underserved communities.
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Yeah, as much as as much as possible.
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And I wanted to add the one of the one of the things that we’ve found in in the environmental education world is that there are a lot of organizations who want to engage with, with communities they haven’t reportedly been able to engage with, but don’t feel like they have the resources or skills. And so that’s been one of the pieces that we’ve been able to help Bill and I think we’ll be able to work really closely with others at the city to figure out how to best do it in Longmont, because in Latvia, for example, we have two community liaisons who speak fluent Spanish are from the community, local to the community, their children engage in programming too. And their whole job is to break down barriers. So they are going to family houses and helping them navigate impact summer camp system that I have a hard time navigating despite all my privileges.
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And by kids boots, if they are ready to go to camp and don’t have the stuff on the list, and really do like it and really do everything we can to make sure that those barriers don’t exist. And so because there are so many programs who want to engage with either can’t or haven’t chosen to commit the resources to doing it, we’ve found that not every organization needs its own person, if they’re willing to be a part of a collaborative that is thinking about this holistically willing to put in the work to make sure that there’s equity in their programming, but not necessarily able to hire somebody to put in all the legwork, but we can fire that person sort of centrally. So you know that equity is at the core of what we’re of this whole effort.
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And inequity looks different in different communities.
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is not you know, that’s that’s at the core of equity. But that is the central focus of all the things that we’re trying to do here.
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When that packet on can’t last time he asked us to bring Taylor and was there something patient you’re looking at this for may be able to help contribute with their What was your? No, I just wanted to learn more about what was planned for long run and yeah, understand how the court can stay engaged as you guys sort of pursue this and, you know, help support and understand that efforts.
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And I think I mean, Rachel touched on this, but we don’t really know exactly what it’s going to look like until we have time to reach out to the community and run sort of some pilot programming next year. So is it going to be it’s going to look like community gardens or a variety of different stewardship opportunities, or major play? Or, you know, it’ll probably be a combination of those things, just like it wasn’t off yet. But as far as like on the ground, what’s it gonna look like? We probably we won’t know, for another year or two, what it’s what it’s really gonna look like.
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And I think the plan, Rachel, correct me if I’m wrong is to, you know, get this started next year, and then really get it started the following year, and then continue on, sort of indefinitely.
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Yeah, I mean, that’s, that’s our hope. And that’s, that’s always what so far in life, again, is, but no, we did a year of community engagement and outreach to assess how we can be most valuable and most helpful thing, I’m running three minutes. All right. And then,
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like I said, we’re going into year seven of programming. And we know we have enough funding for at least two more years in Lafayette. But the other thing that we found in Lafayette and perform as well, is that this programming brings in new folks who are excited about this programming and who want to support the kinds of big picture big scale things that we’re doing. I mean, we got approved for and this was prior tonight, to me, but by the outdoor Foundation, which is the philanthropic arm of the outdoor industry association, that big national organization,
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to say like, Hey, we have money for collective impact programs, and we’ve heard of what you’re doing, and we give it to you on a large scale. So we anticipate the long one will be just as exciting. And, you know, I firmly believe that exciting programming brings funding, not the other way around. So that’s, that’s where we hope that this will go and it’ll be sustainable moving forward. And
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the one other thing I’ll say, as a, as a former partner, so a while administration volunteers, I was on the partner side
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is that a lot of the partners ended up with WMV, we did ended up bringing a lot of this into the way that we operated. And so it’s also read sustainability, because partners are taking it on and trying to adapt their programming with that equity lens in ways that they haven’t before. So I think about them predation is that this will still be something to go forward and to the sustainability as a sort of a platform from the very beginning.
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Any questions from the floor?
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It looks like from the video that there there are volunteer opportunities here. Oh, yeah. Groups. Yeah, stewardship will definitely a big piece of this. I would assume anyways. Rachel, it seems like it’s been a big piece of the ones you’ve done in the past. And if I’m involved, then I would. That’s something that I care about. So yes, there should be a piece of this. I can just think of service organizations. Absolutely. Watch that video, and listen to this presentation would line up to be the roadmap. So if I can soapbox for just a minute. So because Rachel didn’t hit a piece with other organizations that want to do is they don’t have capacity they don’t have. I think the time and effort that this group is putting into this is going down here how you engage the community being with Boulder County for almost 20 years, their passive VR how they take a big white county ban drive to these underserved communities loaded a bunch of kids and take them to haul ranch and show how they would enjoy birdwatching. We had this great opportunity to get kids engaged in their own backyard. I think this conversation started with Keith myself down it Dickens when Steve open that nature play area that’s really in the comfort area that you know is connected to the neighborhood park or community park your backyards but our trail system will eventually get them comfortable there. That trail gets some sandstone ranch that that trail system will get them to the state park eventually we’ll get them to Boulder County property so I think this is just a great opportunity to get this started and start building with other partners as we get this group feeling really comfortable in something in Longmont has a very unique opportunity make people feel comfortable with nature, almost in their backyard. So I’m super excited about it. So I guess that would be we had to go back in last minute. So I’m going to Austin.
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I’m looking forward to it. I am hearing someone floating out there. So unless there’s any
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other property questions for me. I’m gonna go put a five year old.
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Thank you. Thank you.
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Thank you. Hopefully I have some time in the future. I can remember when and
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I look forward to working with go totally great. Thank you.
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Yeah, sounds like a great opportunity and stuff, definitely keep us posted.
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He’ll be back, come back and talk about
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their volunteer opportunities for working on and for other members of communities you as things move and change. I’ll totally will be more of a presence here as this is exciting and
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Thank you, guys. Thank you. Awesome. Thanks for coming.
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Do you want to just finish out meat business?
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need to board members to participate with David and I to do the luminary interviews for
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more candidates? And then we will make recommendations to see
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what’s the timing on that?
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So sometime after the 13th, and it would be right now we only have two candidates. We need three
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to the candidates are like,
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yes, they’re coming. And
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Nick and Scott have a plumbing. And, Dan, if you’re not aware, he’s term limited out and get out.
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Again, until he takes a break.
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But I can I did it last time. So if anyone is interested, Dan, if you want to make it your printing influence, and
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I was just curious if this is a daytime, I forgot what you did before probably during the day.
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Interview experience as well. Thank you.
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I have question about that process. While we’re on the topic. I saw a note somewhere that the Board of commission vacancies were open, but the website doesn’t list them as open. And there’s also a city page that lists the previous period of April as being the current one. So I’m aware there’s some problems getting people to apply, because the site implies that you can’t apply that.
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I don’t know anything about that. But it’s like you got a prime job. It says Start date to be confirmed and date to be confirmed status upcoming, which for every single board commission it says upcoming, and those dates right now? No, because I’ve seen people that have applied already to the Arden public places as well, you can apply. I’m just saying if you look at that, right, it sounds it looks like you shouldn’t apply yet. Gotcha. So for every single one it says to be confirmed and status upcoming. Yeah, I don’t even for all the ones that are open. I will check with the clerk. It might be worth. I don’t have to get to extend the period. But
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I, it seems like I looked to see if some else would apply for some things as I can only be one of the time of course. But it seems to me like it wasn’t ready yet. And also on the city website is bizarre because it’s been open since early September. You applied like the first day or something. Yeah.
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Also one of the city web pages about boards and commissions listed as April. Like there’s two pages that are applied and one list the right day. The one lists the last, well, their boards are split, and some are mid year, and some are at in the year. So I’ll look at that and deal with the clerk’s office to make sure for example, the library filled in June. Yeah. And yeah, so like this this page application process. Let’s the right date. Sorry, let’s the citizens Friday, April 21, and closes June 17. And then if you go to the top one.
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So if you go to the second one, which was correct, but the board’s conditions, one is the wrong date. So just some confusing stuff that made me think it wasn’t really opening up.
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People get more than two incumbent applicants on
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this page it says deadline of apply October 13. If you click on boards, conditions and conditions, boards, committees and commissions about that
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it’s a similar page that also similar button that says
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the different dates
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it’s really where like if you click on boards, conditions, you can measure boards, committees commissions. It goes application process and has the wrong date, the application process again and that was the right date.
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That website update can’t come sooner.
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Don’t hold your breath though because it is still a long way to get there from here I just
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Yeah, everyone here
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is I assume all the boards
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all right. All right.
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Okay, let’s move back to old Business
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Library recreation and culture ballot initiative.
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So I really don’t have a lot to update I, I did notice when I was at home that the information flyer I received it today, the emails receive it.
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Yesterday, did you look at physical? No, no, no, no.
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Official, the three out questions on it.
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So and then we have
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meetings that will be participating staff and, and I
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Scott with his his role on Wednesday of this week at YMCA, and the next two Wednesdays on
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the next shoe after that 18th and 25th.
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That’s all I had.
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about that? I know a lot of it. How’s the attendance been in previous meetings?
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I mean, hockey was better. I mean, we had probably 20 People at hockey 10 Maybe it’s swimming the week before.
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It’s just generally really tough to get people to engage. Retails was not interested in at all.
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And we really kind of made a response. Because, you know, they wanted
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millions extra didn’t understand before that’s gonna go away. They kept on thinking of it as like, well, this is going to be an inconvenient replacement of the portal to have the why there. And not that there’s a resource that needs to be updated or replaced.
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That’s a little bit of a recurring theme. People count lanes that exist already and assume that there’s there isn’t much of a change. And you can’t see the fact that like you don’t invest in,
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in new infrastructure, then we have less than what we have now. So
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it’s Yeah, so it’s really kind of tough that pickleball came out and said that they’ve been like hammering their people because they love
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very inexpensive indoor courts. So they are very excited about the new rec center, like pickleball. So passionate,
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written go for you. Rhythm went great, like tons of great people to talk to.
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By buying far, if you live in southwest Longmont, you are for a year, the only concern is traffic. And more a little bit more recently, the ski hill, like that’s the only one that has come up as the two issues there but Biden fired people in southwest online are for like, thank goodness taken forever to get to here and that sort of thing. People in the rest of the city, you know, really could go north of town feel like they’re being cut off and keep new people in town are getting something and they don’t get to have something. And there’s just there’s a lot of angst in
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like around the why, why the why.
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Why doesn’t Sydney invest in rec center? instead? There’s like a million questions
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doing the why rec center, it’s intangible. So you know, no matter how much countering that’s, that’s there, I don’t think we really get over the hump of convincing people like, Oh, this is great. Oh, this is a great alternative. Part of it at since is going to be my question is that the city promises in MOU with a with a why to go public while ago and hasn’t happened yet. And some clarification around pricing that hasn’t happened. So both of those things hinder us in terms of discussing is it the Y is is our naming rights with the city and the y which we talked about in July.
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And we haven’t moved on any of those, those issues. So these are things that are not on the ballot, that the city could still be working with the y to get together. But we have these public meetings that there’s still a little conflict when we have discussions of pricing, naming, access those sorts of things.
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Is that cause? You know, the why part to be like, Oh, well, if I’m for that, I guess I’m not for anything. And that’s what’s gonna probably take down
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the Rec Center for people who are interested but are concerned people who are, don’t want to pay for infrastructure. Know, for all three items, point blank. And that’s a huge amount of people.
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did you want to pose that question? Yeah. So I suppose the question is do we have we don’t have an MOU. Now with legal a couple of times, it’s in their court.
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Okay, I asked again today, because I knew you’re gonna ask that. Yeah.
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But I will let the board know as soon as I hear back on it.
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Okay, yeah, it’s, yeah, I mean, there’s, there’s, you know, people are concerning me the why doesn’t know what they just call it. The wife themselves, it’s harder to then if it’s white branded only, what’s the $12 million worth of
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public investment? What do we get out of it? And I tried to say that I would think that there’s some naming rights involved with with a $12 million investment, but that’s just me practices and saying that the Y has committed that doesn’t need to just be the why. But they haven’t committed that they’re there. I mean, it’s all branded just as why it doesn’t they don’t even look right, like city, why Mark why they need their flyers or any other project. So with that, it looks like the why is building the center by itself, the city’s gonna get into a million dollars and off to the races. And so there isn’t a lot in the language. I have the y hockey in the Y facility flyers outside if anyone wants to take a look at him. But it’s, but it is really like, doesn’t look like Billy like a partnership. It looks really like why produced a number of things, city communications, and nothing to do with it. And so, you know, we’ve kind of run into that sort of issue where we knew there can be issues about North Lawn mines, and namings. And, and using the why as a calling it a third rec center is tough when we don’t know those equity access issues and naming rights and things like that.
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Because people that are like that, really, you’re just giving them money and land. And he has to take care of a $23 million problem. I
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think that’s not, that has not been very clear. And people still think that it’s a, if this doesn’t happen, they’ll get a new Centennial pool. Dual force, I’ve heard several times that it will force the sea sander, fix Centennial cool, even under cost more. But it’s not the why. And I don’t know, like, I don’t know if people really have an issue with the why it’s just that it’s some other entity. And so
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you know, that’s the concern. So so having the chest hot, those recruits that you feel that there’s anything that helped get people over that hump that people that can speak about this, can start using, was there something other you felt like they were more of a winning? Well, I mean, we’ve talked about we’ve we’ve talked about like that, you know, city council, which has already discussed about equity in access, and that, you know, both Kristen, and, Jeff, I think you bet in a ball said the hockey pricing has been basically the same between the Y in the city. And so those prices will be the same. And so given that you can do the dot, dot, dot, maybe the prices are really, really close afterwards, but I can’t say that. So. So I think.
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I don’t agree with that. Scott, I think we have agreed on everything. And I wasn’t gonna call Chris out in a public meeting, saying that referred to ice I don’t believe that to be true. I think it’s everything. Everything I’ll introduce on Wednesday, right off the front, I will reach out to him here tomorrow and vet that. Yeah, cuz it’s a real concern with like senior citizens or figuring out pricing, right. How does this work? And, like, we took me aside too. And so it’s always nice to sell memberships here, and stuff? Well, yeah, but you know, we’re not talking that 100% People are gonna be doing memberships. Like, some people already have a rec pass will be able to use your facility.
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yeah, it’s tough with all these questions. So I’m looking at an email that I received just a couple of hours ago, from a resident award, one resident, who was so confused about the issues. I mean, I tried to try to respond to this email to explain is probably not going to be great. That guy, it’s just people have conflating issues and are so good, so misconstrued what the proposal is that it’s tough breaking that down. Yeah, I mean, we we get way ahead of ourselves. There’s a lot of people
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we’re way ahead of the entire thing. He is building affordable housing on the wide property and why are you destroying the why, and people who love the Why are like, Why is the city coming in and blowing up the wall? I mean, we’re, I mean, just yeah, it’s just like, well, there’s just not enough budget to take over all of these things. Maybe on your there’s, there’s a couple of candidates who have made it difficult
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or not helping, what’s going on? So I’m better off just being.
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So it’s, yeah, it’s. So the good news is that I thought the signs were actually landed today. Unfortunately, I have 1000 sign stakes.
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So it looks like the signs will be around Wednesday or Thursday. Hopefully they’ll get in, but by the time we get to the white meeting, so. So signs.
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So I had a related question that I had asked Jeff, I had hoped that we would be able to get Phil Greenwald to come. But I think you’ve noted the transportation board meets at the same time we meet just because one of the questions I do hear from Southwest while mom from people that live there is about the traffic around
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me here, you know, people have gone down there like I love this. I love this. This but you know, traffic around Dry Creek is a nightmare. Is this gonna make it worse? You know, I’ve been assuming that the city would not intentionally make a bad situation worse, but they would likely implement.
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They would do a study, they would implement
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planning aspects that would help maybe make the situation better. I was hoping that we could get some details from Phil not about what they would commit to, but about what are the steps that the city would take? And how would they address a situation like this? If the ballot initiative passes?
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We have maybe some informal information, but no formal information from him. So I’m not sure if you have any more emotion? No, no. All I know is that any facility like this rec center, or the library has to go through a process that not only is about transportation, but it’s about what’s included in the facility,
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how it’s managed, how we deal with stormwater and the list goes on. Transportation is a very big part of that.
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If the study defines that we need to do calming devices or traffic lights, that all falls on the project to do that, and the project cannot move forward, unless those things are addressed. And and so I I don’t know what else like I can say beyond that. But
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city has a a very big process that if this passes, it’s going to we’re going to need to work through it. I just to judge that kind of pushing this little bit too. We’ve brought this up to that planning group for over a year, probably as this has been coming up to kind of ask, but it was hard to get even internal staff saying we’re gonna spend time and effort on this one, we don’t know if it’s going to be as much stuff on their plate right now. I think Jeff, again, Jeff mentioned, if that if piece, if this passes, there will be all right people that have at least knowledge of this coming down the pike towards them that hopefully we’ll be putting in the time to help answer those questions. And the other side that I’ll say is that
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the emergency side of things fire has made it very clear that we can just have the one access, that they’ll have to be multiple accesses into the site. And we’ve talked about that here a couple of times.
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But it it’s challenging sitting on this side where
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I can’t say anything. And and I think one of the frustrations that adds to what you’re saying to him and and Scott is City’s not talking, we’re not given any of this information. And that becomes a real challenge because our legal folks have said that we cannot do that. And that that means if we’re not talking people are making up or filling in the gaps, which generally are never good. Yeah, leave a vacuum. Yeah, get filled. Yeah, no, it’s definitely very unfortunate. I mean, you can see that play out just in talking to people about
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how people you know, come to their own conclusions. And you know, I will say like, I think even with the
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Swimming meeting, which was painful. But there was, you know, like after you went around and like kind of got some of the actual, like, got some of the angst out and some of the details that at least for why could offer and, you know, limited of what we know about the Rec Center? It didn’t I mean, I feel like people started to see a little bit, you know, the benefit that it might be there for them and, you know, the lanes. But there were people there
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conflating of RTD and fast tracks in what that’s done to public trust. Right, that gets back I completed in that meeting with the why music? How do you how do you make that connection? And then I heard a reference that vote we took on the skull of a swimming pool that
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anyone say, ma’am, you didn’t take the boat on?
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You know, how do you paused to say, could you just check yourself and the information that you’re you think you’ve consumed or you’re using to make this decision? Frustrating?
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This might be a tricky question to answer. So it’s fine to know the answer. Is the city fame, the law side of things, the legal team, are they Is there something unique about this project, that means that it can’t be shared so easily. This is just screening standards or interpretation of what we can do. And I think that the challenge and to jump in here,
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when, when you’re asking for a street tax, it’s a pretty simple thing, it it’s an either or thing, when you start talking about recreation facilities or libraries, location becomes such a big thing, you know,
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jumping way ahead to what color are the walls, so I don’t even know, you know, and those are kind of some of the things that people are asking that are
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a year down the road from where we’re at today. And it, it just, it just seems that
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I’m trying to be really careful
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that if the city is going to put things on the ballot,
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we need to take some of the restraints off. And trust that staff are going to be able to give information without crossing the line of advocating or being against something
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You and us get this on the ballot, the legal department’s primary mission, they’re risk averse is to keep the city or anybody in it getting away from crossing any lines. So the question is never, what are you trying to accomplish? And how do I help you accomplish that end state legal, it’s always, here are the things you can do.
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You start from just a very different quality, I mean, in the quality of the facilities in the city. So again, it’s gonna impact the quality of what the city can do and what the city is able to become. And I don’t know if arm’s length is like the right answer. If like the city, if you spend whatever you spend on doing the Rec Center study and getting all the preliminaries done, throwing 50 or $100,000, to a marketing communications company to be an arm’s length away from the city to do that, for the city, would be ridiculously helpful for any project, or all three projects at the same time, or whatever it is. Because, yeah, there’s I just hear the questions on all three of them are very similar sort of things that the city can talk about. And it’s not helpful that we’ve already spent taxpayer money building to this thing, which already then shows that city in staff color for it, because they’ve decided to put resources towards this and then cut off at an arbitrary point in time and then not be able to contribute anymore. It’s just I think it’s just overly conservative. But
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yeah, and then you add going to a public meeting, where why has no
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restrictions. And then I look like a complete bump on the log by saying, I don’t know, I can’t respond to that. It is very awkward place. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah.
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I mean, there are people who do make my ear for like a half an hour at rhythm at Roosevelt about glasswork next to the fitness area and how hot the glass is going to be. I was like, Oh, you’ve got to be kidding me.
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This is just a rendering.
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Going through just thinking pretty windows, whatever. We’ll figure it out. Whatever. And architect come up, he’s like, I’m retired. Who are you?
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were the architects, we’re doing this because you would never want to do that.
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You voter, and I can vote for it. That’s what I really need to know. And it just so it’s, yeah, it’s really like a lot of people had their own things, but like swimming kind of like, the issues really was swimming groups, this was so small, it was just like they can, they’re picturing their kid who may be like a freshman or a sophomore. And if the pool goes away, and how it affects their development of their swimming for their kid, right then in that not swimming in general, not even their company, which is Redtails is the we’re talking really about is individualistic, like approach to voting, which is really, against what we’re doing here. We’re trying to build something for our community, not just for you, when we didn’t have a meeting just for you to have a meeting, did it for like to you for you to represent swimming in the city. And that’s the part that is really frustrating is that we don’t have I don’t know if we lost more of it. Because of COVID. Or because of politics or social media, whatever the excuse, like, it was like, it’s really it’s kind of depressing there. There isn’t a lot, there isn’t more of how can I help in the community more is more of like, what is this specifically mean to me in weighing traffic concerns, and how long it takes me to get to my middle school over whether or not the city should be able to access, you know, have 30,000 50,000 more people access to a rec center? Right. So, I mean, that’s been one of the kind of sad things for me to observe. And, you know, hopefully, they’re still, you know, there’s still time, there’s still a chance there’s, you know, opportunities for people to engage. But I think it does really take
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a community kind of civic minded approach. I mean, all of these ballot initiatives that you have to want the community to be better and have more opportunities, and not vote solely on your own personal interests.
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You mentioned the mailer going out? Can there be a digital version on the website?
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Yeah, there’s nothing right now.
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Pretty hot off the press. That’ll be good. Cuz right now, there’s no because we could all be on the ballot language, and that’ll be a good start.
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Yeah, I will tell you that that fire says no more than what’s already on there.
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Yeah, you’re talking about like the page where you
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fold out that?
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The County, the county,
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or the city? Yeah, yeah. Yeah. So also will there’ll be a whole other project that I’ll take on afterwards, after this is that the season clerk’s office needs to be more communicative of how things work? Because just reading through Colorado statute, in order to figure out when deadlines are, and then find out the deadlines, like also had, like noon, or something that’s on there, but yet, we have our own, like,
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elections commission, their collections, board and rules, but doesn’t say those dates. So there’s there doesn’t like when it’s public time to comment or whatever, is not even stated in our rules, which are supposed to supersede or
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like the generic rules. And so it’s really frustrating as an organization to, you know, say, Okay, well, who’s the authority? Is it Boulder County elections? Or is it the city of Longmont? And who’s dates and times are we supposed to follow because the city’s close section is like four pages, and it’s really about accounting and paperwork has nothing to do with communications and how you go about your business. So it’s, it’s a tough process for a new organization to be supportive and, and not by
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the state, by the way, and the team or notice, didn’t this city of Longmont, it was in Boulder County as the appropriate authority to talk to you about elections?
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there you go. So we’re not going to miss it as the elections authority for what it is we’re not
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what it is. Yeah, we can set our own deadlines in terms of petitions and whatnot. But in terms of regulating elections, we’ve conceded all that to Boulder County. But we don’t we don’t have the capacity to run our own elections. So we send our more like, like giving comments. Yeah. So there’s a comment deadline that’s in the Colorado statute. And so I sent we sent it to Boulder County. It took them three hours to get back and said, We’re not the ones you’re sending it to. You’re supposed to send to the city. Now. It’s after 12 o’clock. And then they’re like, oh, by the way, it was you got it in for us, but we’re not the right ones. I was like, Oh, I just felt like on the table. Notice that that would be the one that I would use. But no. So
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living there, right. You would think that maybe one of the
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These communications when you sign up as a, as a committee, these are some of the things you should know. Right? Maybe?
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Well, maybe maybe a post election, because you have to go beyond the city clerk’s office on election information is leading a community conversation about the balance between individual rights and the common good. And the public good. Yeah. Because that’s what we’ve, we’ve totally lost and understanding of
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the fact that we sit in this building because some other generation thought it was worthy, right. of the community to have a place like this to sit in a park like that to play.
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We’ve just lost it
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I’m still holding out hope. Oh, yeah. Exactly. Still no. So what’s your I shared the I saw on your your ads on the Facebook feed my Facebook feed the social media post? Everybody shares that right. And I just likes it. Right. Yeah, exactly. Get that to go viral. Right. Yeah. And I’ve gotten a couple times with Facebook, because our election will. Yeah, maybe I didn’t click the button. Correct. And sometimes, but it’s
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whatever, you reach the same time, so but yeah, we’re that, you know, hopefully get out to more and more people on there some, you know, stalking, social media, things that will be happening. So unfortunately, the school district has decided the school district is not taking a position on any of the city.
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Election points and the school districts Foundation says that it cannot take a position
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even though it’s recreation in the benefit of students and both the why recreation center in the new rec raishin Center are located right next to their schools. I wanted to have just even What’s your just give me an impact statement. You know, building these you have to do especially because of nerve center. Yeah, this the details are separate entities. I just started with a district foundation first. So.
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Any other questions or comments?
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Any questions on items from the packets?
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I had a couple
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on Thompson Park, they did the meetings got scheduled for the renewal
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out of the city calendar.
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During the website there were there a few days ago. So
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there was a note about prairie dog relocation from Keltner open space, and I just looked for and I have no idea where that is. Keltner Yeah, it has a label on the maps I could find now. It’s northeast reservoir, just north of pipeline here. But it’s universe work Cairo 28 is the road just north of us reservoir is a wider, is owned by way of resources that fund owns it. And we had worked on that property, tried to do some agriculture on it. And we’ve been working with the tenants to remove some prairie dogs to try to gradually agriculture operations that city owned open space is city owned, but that give us even have funds that kind of logs in how we manage certain properties. And that one is owned by the city, but it’s owned in purchase through the water.
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So this is
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written here. It’s just pretty pricey. So very good.
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The other one I was asked about was there was a mention of Dragic number one extension from Sam’s Club to sunset. And starting next year. Is there any other any resources about the design for that or they can design that design? You know, it’s actually had a because there’s no websites for it. The other ones are quite well supported, but I couldn’t tell where that was going. You and how was Stephanie is a project that again, because us getting some new project managers without that engineering is taking this amount of leads right here and I’ll go into more of a zoomed in view. So right now the sidewalk the trail ends, so it’ll continue along the ditch and then at this concept Street, it will then be a bike lane and the bike lane will take you to sunset. Great.
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More to come on that though. I’ll give you updates as I
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quick question. So sledding hill, we don’t know what kind of soils are getting brought back in when yet
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but I’ll get both of those are two different types most likely. Okay, cuz, yeah, this someone has asked, When will the study help? The master plan we just don’t know when that’s when dirt gets placed, sledding hill was made is two different levels
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just about that because I’ve had a lot of people who have been surprised to learn Sunninghill, it’s going away. And I’m like, well, that’s going away regardless. Last time we discussed signage was supposed to be there. Well, it starts whenever they hire a contractor. So once they execute a contract with the contractor, and then they have a timeframe, then they’ll put up the signage to alert the community. Well, we
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now saying, yes, because it isn’t a sledding hill is used as a slave.
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Now we’ll we’ll talk to that team that’s working on awarding that contract to see if we can get something out there. Just
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got to scale a couple times to grow. Definitely could have been
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So thank you for cleaning up the bollards on price. That looks great. signage, though, are we still waiting.
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So there was those will be installed in November. They’re being deprecated. Currently.
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Let’s see detour.
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So we have a few updates on the nuclear
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data science coming. The city has ordered a solar powered flashing
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cross signal that Boston
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the solar piece was critical since there was no power source there. And I believe that they’re waiting the material delivery date on that one. So they’ve already procured it. It’s just extended, provide another that installed. As you mentioned, the bollards have been cleaned up, repaired and replaced. The signs will be installed on November, the 27th additional signs that are needed to come around this location when I count their little icons, I count 30. So I don’t know if there’s three that already exist, but they gave me a quarter 27.
Unknown Speaker 1:42:34
So then, there were also the flashers installed here at the crossing area of the trail across sunset right near the railroad tracks.
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And then Boston has yet to become a 25 mile an hour construction zone. I did reach out to them. And I haven’t heard back on that timeframe. So I know you guys are placing that it’s well underway. They’ve closed a portion of the road over here.
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yeah, north wall, necessarily for you. But it’s
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the westbound bike lane, called sudden becomes a storage area for the hills traffic barrels. Right before going across the bridge. So as you as you’re going west on Boston,
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all of a sudden, there’s a bunch of traffic barrels just in the pipeline as you go through the bridge, so why do you know that they’ve planned on doing it? This is going to be a very controlled area for a lot of the project with it’s pretty extreme traffic. So I went through there today and you know, it was the whole slow down and stop with the the people on the side of the road likers and stuff, right, like right now or like at 530. Nobody was there. And so if you were riding riding home, you all of a sudden have to get pushed into the into the we can save we can get like their their plan. I can’t speak to what it is, but I can ask them to see if there’s something they can do to keep those three are not working. Yeah. safety concern. Yeah, I would just like it that like we treat bike lanes like we build the pipeline, we should treat it as we were using motor vehicle rain, and build this build the detour first, then start doing the work. Don’t put barrels in the way don’t like say it’s kind of calm. It’s people are thinking do a dangerous move and move out in a narrow bridge to get around a barrel that shouldn’t be there in the first place.
Unknown Speaker 1:44:31
Aside sign that’s gonna be put up in weeks doesn’t help the person who writes hit like tomorrow because they’re avoiding some of the construction traffic. So we build all those construction detours well in advance for motor vehicles do the same thing.
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And to piggyback off of that, too, I mean, it does reduce usage because once you’ve gone through once again, oh crap, I’m not doing that again, somewhere else. And it reduces recreation.
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Any other questions?
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I have one on the Goko planning grants, said we are that staff is intending to apply for grant funding in 2023 to support planning and
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land management and regional planning. So just wondering if you have more information? Is that Danielle or is that?
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So we’re working with Phil Greenwald. And we’re just looking at opportunities to work. We’ve got some really, again, these trends, we’re working on moving out.
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foresight, you know, buying that original openspace property
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out of Boulder Creek Estates, you know, linking in with now Weld County to needs and other areas that were want to do regional planning and stuff. So it’s opportunities that we’re looking at. There’s something right now, but probably the biggest one, and that is going to be the one that coming in Chicago through sandstone ranch under 119. And did state park that was coming back. County Road 26 is one that we really working with that collaborative group. Well, county is taking the lead on that project. But again, you so those
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are the proposal in the fall for funding to support planning. I’ll have to check with Danielle but that’s my understanding of it. Really? Phil, Nash transportation is helping us take a lead on this too.
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Okay, yeah. Do you have any more that you can share?
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Any other questions from the pocket?
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Any items from staff?
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So we’ve had a couple I did want to update on
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spring Gulch two phase three. So this is today. They’re working on? Yeah. So yeah, this is where phase two ended. And this is where basically start. So that’ll be completed in July. And Tricia was here was our new she’s going
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to introduce her I didn’t want to, we’ll have to get them on the agenda for November 2.
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So this is going to be she’s going to be the
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sole trader. Alton is managing this project. But Trisha is going to be supporting him from our department. So she’s going to be on that. And then
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red versus green here.
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This is the new that
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phase three trail here. This is this, I think is the ditch. Thank you. The green is future once the reservoir expands potential trail.
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Yeah, that’s actually I think this is going to be part of the
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the loop trail around using regardless of exchange. But yes, there’s a
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legend there. And then we did have I wanted to show the pretty picture. So
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if anyone hasn’t,
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we have seen some reviews online that have been really positive from some of the moms and families that are using parks just all over the front range. Anybody made a list. So that was pretty fun. The only item
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on the disc golf course that we’re going to complete, but otherwise everything’s running the restaurants open. The restaurant will be closed soon.
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So those last Sunday was the second
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most the 15th
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Okay, I was at the mall on Saturday. It is amazing. I asked people and they were all very happy about it. So everything works perfectly. It’s nice. I’m getting
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nothing squeaks like a brand new car, sand and all that good stuff. But especially the cladding structure was amazing. Yeah, it looks like it is very cool.
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That’s all I can
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I talked to the tennis folks who there was a large tournament in September 7 10th. It goes for a week at Quail. They had over 300 like 314 people three quarters, our competitors. Three quarters of those are from out of Longmont so it has become a regional thing to do. It’s become one of the larger Colorado tournaments. It’s all run by Lt. Now the Longmont Tennis Association volunteers and stuff so the city doesn’t do anything except turn on the power and let us use the courts. Almost all the reviews are five star there’s a whole registration system through the USTA so you get a lot of feedback which is nice. And almost all the reviews are five star a couple of four stars
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dangerous for not enough shade case that were something you could think about? Well, yes, we
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we’ve, we’ve discussed this before. I know it’s not in the current budgets, dream or anything.
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It’s grown a lot that term has grown in the last few years. We moved to September from June, the weather is way better, you know, post COVID it’s just a it’s something to do. The weather was just perfect this year. So anyway, it’s a really good thing. Where should we have people who actually got VRB O’s came from out of town from like, you know, Colorado Springs or Cheyenne. And it’s like, for tennis seriously, but apparently, we’re thinking, so yeah. Well, right. Right. So anyway, the facility, you know, I think a lot of folks appreciate if you’re in Boulder right now, tennis is like going away evaporating courts are disappearing, they’re gonna shut down the whole big, you know, the Millennium harvest house, whatever those courts are called, you know, I mean, it’s, it’s hard and with pickleball, growing and stuff. So that’s my next question. If you don’t mind. I can follow up on that. Yes. With that responsive tennis community, are they feeling pressure from pickleball? Do we strike a greater balance? Right? Yes. Are they? We felt Colin states called and I’ve met with them and Okay. Said, I really don’t want to do that. But that’s that, David.
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No, but we had a good conversation. We really have no intentions of converting anymore. Tennis courts to pickleball.
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The next pickleball that will happen will be at Nino Gallo, right. And then whatever happens at Quilt campus, but we’ve really tried to explain to pickleball that we’ve done as much as we can for them right now. And that we also need to meet some needs of some other folks in our writing.
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Yeah, I mean, the tennis community is still very large and long guy. There’s a lot of folks playing League, it’s a huge revenue thing, not maybe necessarily for the city, except for the court rental fees. I mean, there is a lot of stuff going on. So it’s not like we want to just fold up shop like outdoor hockey did more or less, you know, they’re they’re kind of evaporated, you know, by comparison. So, anyway, I just thought I’d let you all know that there was a big deal does USDA work with visit long run in the promotion of your cement? I don’t think USDA has much to do with it except put on oil on my tennis Tennis Association does on their own. I don’t know if they’ve done anything with bislama but I will put that bug in there, Sarah, okay. Because I can imagine all kinds of things they might do.
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If you know if people are checking into VR Bo’s VRBO is with discounts downtown and in food and beverage packages to go LTA makes a big deal about finding our own sponsors, but I didn’t we don’t think we realize there’s this resource that we could also take advantage of. Okay, I guess they’d be thrilled as well. I’m sure it makes sense. That is a good idea. Thank you. So why, why why is it doing so well in Longmont not in Boulder. Boulder has far fewer courts, they don’t have a quail facility. It’s all private, any large facilities private except for CEU which may or may not exist in another year to the South Campus. So the there’s just the only place where the public courts similar to Longmont close as Loveland, they have a whole system set behind Longmont, Loveland High School and then up northwest part of town. But Boulder, Lewisville, Lafayette, there aren’t public courts more than four quarters in a park. So to have 10 courts at Quail and have asphalt are less than a mile away with four more courts is really a little special around here in this area. I think it’s just important for them to hear that as we’re developing the new parks. We’re not hearing anything about we need more tennis. All right. And that might be just a message if I
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if there is a need, right, we’re not hearing okay. Is that fair?
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Yes, absolutely. Right. Okay. I will bring that I think yeah, I don’t know what the thing but I’ll bring that up and we’ll see what the feedback is. Okay. Cool. And we did remove some
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keep off of inline hockey because inline hockey what is still out there and people Okay, good. Right. So make sure Yeah, good. Where do you need to repaint the lines in that court?
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Probably not in the winter.
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Oh, they haven’t actually gets a letter by is that the blue sky park what No.
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Oh, thank you barn Yeah, got it.
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Councilman waters, this may be my last meeting with this group as your liaison to council nine, I realized November 13, there’s a meeting, I will be a lame duck at that point in time. But part of the role of liaison is to carry messages back to council on I will be off of counsel.
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So, I may or may not be or if if we win if you win if this that I’ll come just to do a victory dance.
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But I just want to say how much I’ve enjoyed
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having this association, this you’ve got the best staff in the city working with this group. And this has been one of the great joys for me these two years and the first two years I was on council. So I appreciate the work. You all do. I admire it. I’m grateful for it. And I hope you just keep leaning in to the things that you’re doing now and that the city is going to need you to do in the future.
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Thanks. We appreciate your participation and engagement. I’m glad you overlap with theirs
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right if there’s no other items, I could take a motion to adjourn.
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I move we adjourn. Okay, back just for that.
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