Water Board – August 2022
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Right Am I on camera? Yes like this camera right
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around the corner enough that
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maybe we’re I end up just moving
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the camera make sure that no one’s texting just zoom in on Kevin when he goes to sleep it’s working is it nice we all might after our lunch
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it’s been tough we have a lot of emotional bandwidth right now unless there’s a moment found out that he had something that was incurable adjusting yeah and then there’s the whole visit not my favorite soon so you’re always trying to draw and something’s wrong something happened to start packing that there’s a children’s venue your loved one yeah Hi Roger How are you You just made your call so you should check into your camera too much where she is he’s living the life of ours you see everyone Roger roger over here over here we in the corner so he’s not while raise my hand
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finally growing maybe the last people in the Valley really cushions they’re gonna happen over probably
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because you can see everything every I should be but it was crazy to see what ditch things well right
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Last chance to walk away I think so.
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Now we all we can do is to scuba gear. Not have to do.
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I’ll bet I’ll bet when it’s all done we’ll get one more chance.
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I’ll have to remember that
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give a very short window to Yeah.
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A one week window. Let’s do that and then
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each other okay, so I’m gonna go ahead and call me to order. Roll call. Yes.
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Allison Gould here. duster here. Scott Warwick here. Roger lane. Ken Houston. Nelson Tipton, yeah. Nice Lowry here. Kevin Bolton here. Jason Elkins here. Bartlett here at Bell here. Fire. McIntyre is here and we have d
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linked up. And councilmember right here. So our first order of business for today will be the election. Chair. So I’m gonna open up the floor for nominations for the board chairperson.
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Do you recognize Roger lane?
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A second, a second,
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third, or fourth? Quorum. So take a second to nomination. Alright. So we’re all in favor of nominating Roger lehengas. President for the upcoming year. A lot of work here. I think. All right, Roger, I apologize. I didn’t even ask you if you wanted to be president.
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Because you accept.
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Is that good for you, Roger. That’s fine. Okay. All right. With that, then I’m going to turn the floor over to you Roger for the nomination of the Vice Chairperson.
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Okay. Why don’t we go ahead with that. I’ll entertain donations. Your Vice Chair. Are there any any nominations from any board members?
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I like to nominate house voters.
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Is there a second? Vice Chair All in favor? say aye. Aye. Modulation Allison? Here to router. All right. Well, very good. That was just I thought I just can’t had mentioned this to the reason I’m not down there today is we’re in North Carolina and my wife and I got COVID about 10 days ago. So I stay away for a meeting. So that’s why I’m here and sorry, may not be there. But anyway, that’s just the way it is. So let’s move on to the approval of previous month’s meeting. Any comments or concerns about last month’s meetings? minutes? Is there a motion to approve them? So moved. Second four of us now. Next
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one or statue for you is Roger Nelson. We’ll do it.
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Okay. Thank you right.
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Well, the same Rock Creek Alliance today is suddenly one CFS. 125 years stork average is approximately 125. CFS for the state. Call the st grand Creek is the Palmerton ditch at a number of 5630 with a priority date of May 31 1865. Calling the main stem of the South Platte River impacting district five is lower Latham Avenue number 11,620. And the priority date is October 24. At a more real price reservoir at bedrock reserve is full and spilling elevation of 6,400.2 feet releasing three CFS unit reservoirs out an elevation of 26.7 feet 11,786 acre feet so it’s down approximately 1000 acre feet from full and release and 15 CFS and then on the same brand Creek basin storage as of August 1 2022 It was at 77% from full and as you can see from the column and say brain Creek with it being Palmer two digits fairly full, I mean probably senior so that called out Rough and Ready oligarchy so we’re releasing out a pleasant valley for flows going into rough and ready ditch for irrigation and we’re releasing out of virtually oligarchy reservoir number one for oligarchy ditch
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irrigation water so any questions concerns? Go ahead awesome.
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What is Palmer tetanus
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it’s fairly similar the next SR tid as long as supply and when we get long supply that’s most of the major ones are some smaller ones that are senior to Palmerton limit supply but next in line as long as supply which is lately the last several years less you can correct me last several years it has been hard to and right around the middle of August and almost like towards the end so the water we’re lucky that were held that have been last several years I feel basis storage so that we can go to storage for for those ditches. So what do you think okay, can the call you know, I don’t I have it stop and quit. So
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it could be I hate to say it but it could be end of the week so but I don’t know. Yeah. We need the positivity so kid. So he actually beat us all on the peak flow by by a landslide. So I’m gonna listen to Kim. It’s gonna rain and we’re gonna be we’re gonna be okay. So if we don’t get rain, it’s probably going to be we get rain. We’ll keep it in if we get rains for several days, we might be able to keep some get some other what it really shows us is that supplemental CBT supply, how much we rely on that. And I think this year, though the river stated less than longer than originally expected. We would have thought that he wouldn’t have been as JR calls long as we were so feeling good about that. But, you know, emphasis added especially coming off tour, we ask today that CBT really does this in these layers. Alright, thank you, Roger. Heather, any other advice would be heard, especially presentations we have any agenda revisions? Okay.
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All right, onto the development activity.
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Are you going to cover that? Oh, I was take this one. Thank
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you. So in front of you, I’m on page nine of your packet quill commercial center of filing and one final plat. This is an update update for April. Oftentimes when the plan set comes through. It’s at the final stages, but sometimes they’re just not quite there. So maybe I didn’t hear
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that was during the rain rather ferociously here.
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Listen to Can I just for the for sake of discussion, well, commercial center Volume One final plat is a 13.194 acre parcel. The historic water rights were all transferred at time of annexation according to the policy. Well, commercial center filing with final plat will be in compliance with the city’s rollout requirements policy, the blood satisfactions 3.516 acre foot deficit. That type of final plat approval
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on this 7.17 The city says the remaining seven goes together.
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So the yeah today right. You’re on mute Roger. Okay, let’s, let’s go back to development activity we’re getting we’re gonna believe that
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Wes was just gonna make the presentation. Okay,
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so I apologize. The numbers are right. One second Roger so we have, quote, commercial sector filing one final plat in front of you.
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The total acreage 13.19 for a typo in actions, a typo in my report, it’s 6.177 acres that will be transferred to the city ownership. So the remaining 7.017 acres will have full requirements do that deficit is then 3.516. So quote, commercial center farming, one final plat will be replaced with the city’s robot requirement policy, the satisfaction of the 3.516 acre. Final. Thank you, Tom, I get that was one of the changes that I did here. But in my
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I just thought maybe I was reading it incorrectly.
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So that’s really all I have Roger on that.
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six questions and concerns about emotion too, to approve.
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Maybe quickly, what is the city plan to do with you said to be used for future municipal purposes of the city’s gonna own it. So what is that?
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So part of that’s gonna be parked in the west side of the museum. And I think it’s going to be like a parking area that maybe a future expansion of their building, or I don’t know, positive. There was just an agreement that was reached for them to have a parcel. And so
Unknown Speaker 17:39
he was originally going to be a parking lot. But there’s been talking about other enhancements to campus overall. That might use that space in a different way.
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Let’s just talk
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No, no, no plans. To do something else, I guess, our very underparts facility for the museum in the we actually are also entering into a parking agreement with the developer allowing people to park on their property.
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Oh, yeah. I’m gonna do parking.
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You’re gonna test Yeah.
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I’m having jarred by there and currency doesn’t matter. I think there’s a river corridor through there.
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Yeah, I think the heart of this the Clifton Creek. So there’s gonna be some Greenway?
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Is that part of what he’s gonna, that’s gonna
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be part of what we’ll be able to maintain municipal purposes.
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Okay, so we’re gonna pass
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portion. Yeah. There’ll be some parcels that are adjacent to a fifth grade and and also additional lat Okay, let me use this part of the
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Okay. That’s great. I moved to the second
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one there. I do. All right. Thank you. Next, I know you are doing something for us. I do. You share with us
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All right, so the last meeting, I’m gonna pull up my notes which are on my phone, so I’m not texting or anything. So last meeting, we spoke about the water efficiency master plan, and that we’re undergoing an update in the next 20 years. So I’m going to talk more about our timeline for that and where we see going and get you all see that I forgot. So here’s a little bit of our timeline. We’re still on milestone one developing the scope of work creating communication plan and outreach materials. But we’re hoping to have everything finished and submitted to the state by the end of 2024. That will be when it’s due is 2020 time, so we’re hoping to get above that timeline. So this is just an overview of what we’ve accomplished. I went over this in our last meeting, but just to revisit our main partnerships, again, our efficiency works, and we’re so central. They’re the ones who run most of our indoor and outdoor efficiency programs. We’ve done a couple of outreach projects like advertising, we do regular city newsletter articles, and outreach through there, a lot of conversion to raw water, irrigation in our parks and most of our golf courses. And then our automatic meter reading our AMR meters are still underway. So that’s kind of what we’ve accomplished. Here are a couple of charts. The one on the left is our participants, year to date, and all of our programs, so you can see which ones are most popular and which ones we need more work on. And then on the right is our annual water savings based on our indoor and outdoor programs. And as you can see, in 2018, we had a significant savings for indoor programs. So when we went back to look at those numbers and why the st. We had so much more participation that year is efficiency works did a targeted outreach program for multifamily housing. And during that time, we did over 2000 audits, water efficiency audits in apartment complexes and multifamily homes. We provided rebates for nearly 200 toilets, and 1000s of areas and showerheads, which really is where we’re getting that huge update. So this data is important for us to keep in mind as we continue through our update progress, is you want to continue to do programs that are that successful. So again, this was through our partner efficiency works. We haven’t been able to do anything like this since COVID. So hopefully, as as we continue to just navigate our current times unknown, we can continue to do projects like this, I don’t foresee that we see this big of a participation again, in Longmont, but hopefully we can get near that number. So that’s something to keep in mind as you do our program goals.
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Time. Yeah. So on the right, has a number of new multifamily projects going up. A lot of them are aimed at low income, although not all of them. Do our current building codes require that the efficiency efficient stuff is already in there.
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I believe. So Colorado is a water smart state, which means that all of our new toilets, things, showerheads have to meet a certain standard, which is why we probably won’t ever see that big jump again, is because those are all kind of retrofitting things that weren’t meeting those design standards. We can’t even get the votes that we used to read anymore like they don’t sell them anywhere. So as we continue to have new developments, our indoor programs will see less participation, which is why we also want to make sure we’re focusing on our outdoor programs. So this is just a general direction of where we see that we want to go. First and foremost, we want to see a more aggressive conservation goal. Our current goal through our efficiency program is 10%. On average, we need that annually. But it just kind of depends what kind of water you are having. Our climate action Taskforce, which was run through the sustainability department asked us to do a 35% Gold Council approved not that exact number but for us can you can correct me if I’m wrong, but for us to continue to do more aggressive conservation goals, they have not approved very much percent as our goal. So we can talk about if we want to reach for that high. I don’t know if that’s the best thing that we want to do who we can see. We also want to make sure that we’re addressing our climate change impacts on our future water demands and supplies and Mmm, we currently don’t have any language in our water efficiency master plan all about climate change. So we want to make sure that we’re implementing that language. Secondly, we want to make sure that we’re creating sustainable and equitable landscapes. So, you heard Frank today talk a little bit about our growing Water Smart workshop that we’re going to, that’s a workshop that that Ken and I are attending to, with a lot of planners and city developers to make sure that we can update our city code and design standards. So ultimate goal, so that we are hitting those efficiency goals in our development moving forward. So that would be a really good update in October for you all to see how how that meant. But we definitely want to implement those goals into our efficiency update plan. We also want to make sure that the city is acting as a role model. And I would like to ask you all opinions, we’ve talked a little bit about career transitions. But what does the city being a role model for efficiency look like for you all? And how can we put that into our plan.
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So this is the hardest, hardest piece. But if the city has a way to apply some pressure to the HOAs, which have charged vast tracts of blue grass under their control, and we can’t make them do anything about it. So if there’s some way that that incentives could be created, that will be a huge, huge win for conservation. You know, this, they can’t stop us from zero escaping or yards anymore. But we can’t make those your state their lands, their open space.
Unknown Speaker 26:57
I would totally support that. And I think that some folks in HOAs don’t understand that there are laws preventing HOAs from preventing you from going waterways. So I think educating the homeowners themselves, to the extent we can make a big difference.
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Good point last last last summer, I was just told with those shaky finger why they actually president we can’t have sewer escaping it’s against our covenants. But yeah, you’re right, a lot of nominal.
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Another point in this video, kind of a bigger question is what happens to be concerned or safe water? I mean, if that water is ultimately just maybe not used that long loop, but you started another for each municipality, is the net outcome. So I guess from my perspective, I would ask the question, how are we positively and proactively back into the natural stream? As opposed to just?
Unknown Speaker 28:14
I think that’s an important question. And, you know, to me, it’s like Solarization, you know, we don’t really have a need right now, to encourage people to put solar panels on their roofs. You know, it’s not going to pay it back pay us back. The problem with the thing is, if we were increasing urban density, and we are probably accommodate a larger population than the current record says, and if there is drought at the same time, which has an increasing probability as well and we would like to be ready. So if the water just flows down and eventually ends up in the water table along somewhere on the prairie now, that’s okay. But if we increase our capacity to not consume water that will serve us well in the future. That that’s what I think because it’s really hard when you know, women’s all done by gravity, it’s really hard to put it back in the stream
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any other feedback on city?
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One of the day do you really want to have a conversation that will be part of the master planning process? really defining what we feel like we should do is see, what does it mean to be a role model? And it may or may mean us going further than we have the past maybe, maybe we’re happy with where we are. That’s I think that’s a process we want to go through. But we wanted to get you thinking about it. I can, in my mind, we can do that for our community. That will be the
Unknown Speaker 30:29
one thing I think of when I see a report like this, right, it’s like, what scale? Are we talking about? Are we are we thinking about the city as a role model for its citizens? Are we thinking about the city as a role model for other municipalities or cities? Right? So like, do we want to be kind of out in front of a lot of these new innovations, etcetera, sets that other cities look upon us and say, Oh,
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what a role model?
Unknown Speaker 30:55
Right? Are we just talking like the city has a role model for its citizens? So for example, not having, you know, leaky irrigation or parks that, you know, that is obvious, everyone who goes to the park? Yeah.
Unknown Speaker 31:11
It’s framed currently in in our minds of the municipality being a role model for our community members. But I love that your mind when there and so maybe that can be like a long term goal of, of long, being a water efficiency, or water efficient community that other communities can work towards? Currently, I mean, that’s really important. Obviously, they’re really water efficient. We can be there Sunday, too. But I think it’s important for us as the city to have efficiency so that our community members can say, well, the city is doing well, like, for example, Archer conversion on the lawn here at this center, like 50% of this yard is waterways turf, or you would never know that. Unless, you know, so I think it’s important for us aid to be efficient and be leaders for our community members, and educate them on look at our green grass, or we’re using half the water that we use.
Unknown Speaker 32:13
Yeah, I mean, I, you know, so, I mean, the most obvious stuff is, of course, like, like I said, leaky irrigation, and the things that you would look at your neighbors and say, That’s unfortunate, or whatever. And and so, you know, that’s the obvious stuff, the less obvious stuff, I think, is the things that we even discussed on the tour today, right? While we were at Northern Water, which is, you know, the types of conversion projects to lower, you know, water usage on, you know, sitting around properties that are perhaps more obvious than the one that’s tucked away here in a neighborhood, you know, like, where you’re, you know, where the facilities are here, right. And instead of the places where, like, people really see, you know, it’s it’s the medians on Ken crap, or it’s the, you know, like, it’s all of those places. And I think that, like, the appropriate signage and things, always keeping in mind that people are driving by, you know, that they’re not walking through those spaces. But somehow, like trying to, to get the word out through some type of signage or something, you know, again, in more high visibility spots, or even up parks, you know, where people are visiting, etc. So that conversion project, perhaps didn’t take place on the soccer field, because there’s all kinds of other factors involved with trampoline and everything else. But but it parks were on the fringes are in places where people are. Just back here.
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Question. I shouldn’t know this. And I don’t, because I know, we threw out the first water recommendation of the Climate Action Task Force, because it was just ridiculous. And they didn’t know that you can’t put the water back in the Colorado. But then I stopped paying attention. And they came back with another goal. And that was this business 35% year over year
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35%, from our 2003, or from our 2018 user to
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35%. Lower than our 2019 demand. build out. That’s, that’s
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a lot. Consider
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astronomical a lot because the growth is going to add so right it’s like 70%.
Unknown Speaker 34:49
And we’re looking at more growth than the old build up definitely nourish themselves. So it’s still silly
Unknown Speaker 34:55
to say 70% reduction per capita, for example. Yeah. Because they asked for 35%. But really on a per person basis, that would be ridiculous. Because yeah, because we have so many more people.
Unknown Speaker 35:12
But that’s okay. I mean, that’s our our master planning effort, we’ll come up with a, I believe a new number, because we basically move on to the benefit percent. So somewhere between 10 and 35, will be, is my prediction as part of this plan?
Unknown Speaker 35:31
So, so two things, one, as you guys consider the effect Allama has on its neighbors or regional community, consider whether that’s a passive, whether we’re just doing really well, when people should look and see that we do it really well and learn from that, or whether it’s more active, participatory and regional fabric, right. And that’s a little challenging, because one month doesn’t have the seamless ability to transfer water assets to other communities. Correct. So that’s insulate ourselves a little bit with cargo wall around what we can do with our water supply easily. But at least from a conservation element, that should be more accurate capacity, should have a leadership role. Really working with your buyers, because whatever we do doesn’t mean it has an incremental effect, but it’s really a regional effort or state. effect, right. And then the second thing, hope is just and we talked about this last time, scalability, you know, HOAs is a great place to start, because are big on tap on tethered plots of land, but I can see that the the parkway space within at least Old Town and other parts of the community use a lot of water. And if there was a way to scale up, reducing the grass component that the big number, and it’s not gonna be the number you had a couple years back, that participatory, decreasing gallons, could be a big number, there’s a lot of waste in the water every turn in the parkways that you see. So there needs to be a way to figure out how to find resources to provide to those citizens that will come with that. And that’s kind of funny more than anything else. So it’s not really even a quarter piece, but it’s finding the resources to provide as an assembler.
Unknown Speaker 37:21
Right. And that goes back to that little piece of ensuring that everyone has equal access. And those who don’t have access, and we help them have access is important.
Unknown Speaker 37:34
So what is long months kind of relationship to some of the things that we saw today? So I mean, northern as our suit, as long as I think the stands, well, we have our own kind of sustainability department.
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are you actively working with Northern the on the things that they were presenting the different types of replacement projects and things? I forget the name of the whatever the partnership that they have the channel gardens to have, you know, particular types of vegetation, etc. Do we? Are we participating in those programs? Or do we say, well, we have our own department. And so we’re we’ll take
Unknown Speaker 38:18
care of ourselves. Now, northern is a huge partner, we definitely participate in almost all the programs that they have. And actually Frank handed me some extra things. So I’ll pass these around. But those are, that’s all the things that we’ve participated in with Northern. And so basically, the biggest partnership with them is that they help us do those large irrigation audits. So for HOAs and commercial properties, golf courses, parks, those types of things. And then they provide so many grants, so we the city can apply for their grants, community members can apply individually HOAs can apply to golf courses can apply. And so they’re funding a ton of a ton of these turf conversion projects as well. So no, we and we don’t we do our best not to silo ourselves. Sustainability is a really like tight knit community. And so sustainability departments and water departments, we I’m in like five meetings a week of different groups of all across the cities. In the Front Range, we’re all sharing resources and working really closely together.
Unknown Speaker 39:27
Yeah. I mean, of course, that’s, that’s a great thing to hear. Appreciate that. And there’s northern do audits of some vendors. So hopefully, it’s raining out there. There’s northern do audits, as large in scale is city wide. It’s all the same I got property or are they focused mostly on takeaways, for example, so how much smaller
Unknown Speaker 39:59
kind of Pull. So we could eventually have aren’t all like all city owned properties audited by Northern, it would just have to be like a project on time. Yeah. And to fill you all in, we’re hoping to do one of two parts, actually two part variation audits this year to Northern, and it’s free to us, as in a lot team. And so they hire that engineering company that they were talking about is Aqua engineering. And they come and do a systems analysis on our irrigation systems on like big properties, like golf courses, and those types of things. So looking all the way to how it’s designed, and how we can change that efficiency if
Unknown Speaker 40:40
we need to. So I’m just curious as to whether like, if you were to put enough of those together enough of those audits together, whether you’d be able to kind of like, get a slightly more accurate estimate or something as to like what you could expect in the future in terms of your savings. Right? So I mean, maybe if you had three or four, kind of, I don’t know how you would select those somehow representative, right parks, you had three or four of those done. And then you said, Well, if these parks are representative of the other parks that we have are in our system, that we should be able to save X amount over some number of years or something. And so these two would maybe put a little bit kind of firmer balance on some of the estimates that you’re trying to
Unknown Speaker 41:29
assess for future. To go back to the savings and kind of you can go back and revert, like say, say for example, we have our dues to Asian graduating person. Is that 30%? Is it going to consume somewhere else? Or is there a way that we can choose not to divert, allow it to from the central basin. I mean, I think taking that next step, what to do with it, and how your baby’s going to be not just switching range, setting a new trend, new setting, new transit, recreation. And I think especially in the bigger Colorado person with all the challenges that we’re facing, but having that type of ability to share, we really set our city up as a role model. So you’re not only making the efficiency of doing something with it, and suddenly it’s not necessarily
Unknown Speaker 42:41
I think that’s a great idea. The question is, what approach would we want to take because I believe, and I could be wrong, and you guys have lawyers. As Ken knows, I really crammed on waterlogging for running for this office. But I believe that if we refused diversions that we were allowed to make, would we not be in danger of losing the rights and priority as well as not even the water?
Unknown Speaker 43:13
Well, it’s kind of a different answer on our ground floor versus CBP water. Okay, CBD water. The underlying degree zone buddy. Your water then is stored in Grant. It’s allocated outlet for me to participants. Thread or 10,000 participants in this law firm contracts in the CVT system. At the end of the year, we don’t have any say whether or not converted or stolen before what happens. Basically, the system stores what it came most years. Apparently not foals store everything ever right? If we don’t use it in the revert back to the system to be reallocated the next year, other participants
Unknown Speaker 44:12
we don’t lose our allocation.
Unknown Speaker 44:14
We don’t lose our underlying water right because that will still continue to be diverted and used. A greater conversation could be had with more learning. Reclamation if we you know, if there was a desire of the greater society to put some water on past Lake. That will be that would be way beyond what we would have control. In terms of our Navy bases supply. We do have our guiding principles. One of our principles is that we will use them Some of our supply for environmental benefits, if it doesn’t, if it’s excess in any given time and doesn’t impact watersport. So there are things we can do. Quite frankly, we’ve always found it more effective over the years to do with with operationally rather than if we just say your river, here’s some water, we have no right to keep the first ditch downstream from. Yeah, that’s a that’s a huge, that’s a huge area. You know, I would argue water conservation, Yellin being the wrong thing to do. And it will help us move forward, you know, for future water supplies. But it also can we reach a point where there is an excess, you could certainly be mitigation, if we do it very carefully.
Unknown Speaker 46:08
I think what you would want to do is target a very specific object exactly, right, is that just what we keep some water in the river from fish, or whatever, right, you target something really specific. So maybe you’ve identified a particularly rich spawning ground or something that happens to be in between two places where, you know, you can release some water here, and it won’t be taken until it gets here, right. And so even if even if the next downstream user does take it, that it doesn’t matter that the benefit has already been half, right. And so, you know, if you looked for those types of opportunities, then you have a really tangible benefit, rather than just kind of more a more ambiguous one, right? So if you could really target something super specific that you can actually say, Okay, this is the spot that we helped or something.
Unknown Speaker 47:02
I think another thing to be considered is risk management. For a long time organizations like Sierra Club, are saying, no more dams, no more reservoirs, we’re keeping the natural environment natural. And they’ve kind of backed off on that, as they have understood the potential harms of climate change. Now, they’re going to be late. Yeah, mismanagement is important. And we should let people build reservoirs, in case things get worse. So one thing that was like things like universe for expansion, is a policy decision that might be good to consider or building new reservoirs takes a long time to get through. But that’s another thing.
Unknown Speaker 48:02
Awesome, thank you so much for your feedback. And all of this, you know? Okay, all of this was, won’t be possible without a robust education and outreach plan. And so that’s kind of my last point of, of an overall overarching goal is to increase and maintain watershed health. And we do that through creating local environmental stewards. We do that through education. And so this is all to say like, this is why you conserve this is and it is all of those points of planning for future demand, planning for the environment, making sure that we’re being a steward of not only our watershed of the Colorado River watershed, and continuing to increase. Yep. All right.
Unknown Speaker 48:56
Let me call you. Bye. You with us. All right. I’m sorry. We we finished with this presentation. Not quite yet. Just just yeah. Thank you.
Unknown Speaker 49:37
Thanks. So that’s a good discussion.
Unknown Speaker 49:39
Yes. Thank you. Yes, that was awesome. But, but yeah, just just saying that all of these goals won’t be possible without creating a robust education plan. So making sure that that’s in there as well, and creating stewards of our local watershed. Okay, the next one, thank you.
Unknown Speaker 50:01
Okay. Very good.
Unknown Speaker 50:04
I just have one more taken all the time,
Unknown Speaker 50:09
we’re taking it.
Unknown Speaker 50:13
And so these are just a few of the program ideas that that we will continue with our programming that we have with resource central with Northern with deficiency works. But just like I mentioned education and outreach, code updates and design standards, carves scape priority prioritization, which is like the new zero scape. It’s not, that’s kind of the word that we’re choosing to use is Colorado State, just increasing prioritizing native landscapes, watering guidelines, turf replacements. But if you all have any specific program ideas that you’d like to see, we can talk about them now. Or if you think about them, you can send them to me, but these are just kind of examples of where we see our program going. But any feedback would be lovely.
Unknown Speaker 51:15
Move on to the next item. Thanks, again. Thank you. Can you give us an update?
Unknown Speaker 51:24
Sir. So I’ve got three projects, I’d like to give you an update on so the South St. Green pump station, that project is currently on schedule on budget. And we’re looking at actually tying into the North St train pipeline September 22. After which, once we tied into that will immediately the following week, we’ll be doing start up and testing and calibration and getting everything turned on debugging and stuff like that. So we’re actually hopeful that, you know, beginning of October, we’ll be able to actually utilize that. And we can start taking diverting water from the south state green Creek through the pump station and pumping into the nursing grade pipeline. So, anyway, so the pump station project is going great. And then kind of going back to the South St. Brain Creek diversion structure. So, you know, we’ve been doing an investigation into our diversion structure, they’re in our ownership there. And so through through an investigation, we found that, you know, ownership and everything like that it’s kind of in question. A lot of this stuff was purchased late 1800s, early 1900s, and throughout the past century. And so anyway, we have, we had guidance from counsel as to what they would like us to do, and we’re going to start working with the adjacent property owners out there to firm our ownership in our inversion structure out there, and at the same time, probably help those residents from their ownership as well and help establish property lines. So there’s been a lot of question, you know, ask, you know, a couple couple decades about who owns what, so we’re gonna try to put that to bed. And so I’ve begun discussions with all the interested parties and property owners out there. And so far, verbal conversations is going good, I think they have an understanding of what it is we all wanted to try to accomplish. So I’m hoping within the next probably six months to maybe actually be proposing a final resolution as to how we’re going to secure our property. And then the last project I want to give you an update on was the button rock outlet. So a couple years ago, you might recall that we had rehabbed the outlet to bumper on pail, and that that entailed rehabilitating the gates and the hydraulics and the cylinder and all that stuff. But one thing we weren’t able to do was replace the bronze seat that the gate shuts down on. So broad seats embedded in the actual outlet frame and everything in the way they constructed it designed it was never meant to be replaced. So fast forward a couple of years to today we are in September, we’re going to shut down the outlet, let water go over the spillway. And we’re going to rip out that old that old broad seat and replace it with a to PC that will be serviceable in the future. And so in doing so, the main reason to do this is that belzona A second epoxy that we applied in there, it’s not really working and every time you shut the gate, you know water is just spraying off in different directions and we’d really like to have better control of our regulated gate. So long story short, in partnership with our plant operators, oh nm Chabal AMS, American mind services. Who else is involved? You got prime machine. There’s a whole bunch of players involved. We’re going to shut down the outlets instead. timber for probably three or four weeks to find the word that out and get that replaced. So that’ll be a lot of a lot of players and a lot of scheduling and stuff. But so far, our probability for success is very high based on past projects experience, such as this.
Unknown Speaker 55:19
So if you want to see Knoxville in September, this is
Unknown Speaker 55:27
it’ll definitely be spilling out throughout most of September and early October.
Unknown Speaker 55:31
People. Thank you. Looking at it on a schedule for future board meetings. And the information that we got in our packet look like we’re gonna look at when you get boring projects in cash, and we review those two items as effective schedule for next month’s meeting. Any changes in no?
Unknown Speaker 56:05
I have no no. That’s just a verbal update for the winter. Yeah. Cash loser Quarterly Review.
Unknown Speaker 56:20
Unknown Speaker 56:25
No, the one thing I did want to talk about a bit at this point, just sent out an email to the board. The Colorado River conductivity project around the windy gap reservoir is having a groundbreaking on Tuesday, August 23. We did kind of perhaps northern today. Is there anything big going on or just trying to shovel dirt? They said no, I just turned down a little dirt. And so while everybody is welcome to go, there’s ways to go just they’re not going to do a tour. I don’t know if they do a tour of the plant, you know, people have existing dam or anything else. So they’re gonna just a real short, real short photo. So everybody’s welcome to come. Give us a holler if you want the details. But that is good news, though, that that kind of activity channel. We did. I did. We did hear from Northern District today that heard that. But I had got to confirm all of the money all the final money from the Natural Resources Conservation Service NRCS. For that project has now been committed. We kind of were told it was committed, but that it wasn’t official yet from Washington, DC, which is kind of important thing. And but we’ve been told it’s all in and now and that the contract can move forward as a full blown construction contract. Now let’s sign left this year, unfortunately, but there’s good news that’s able to move forward.
Unknown Speaker 58:18
Great. Hope, you know, speaking of tours, sorry, I wasn’t and I guess Scott was unable to go this morning. But and Allison, how did the tour go for you guys this morning?
Unknown Speaker 58:34
Yeah, I mean, I thought it was great. Course, you know, I, I have I love big construction sites and things. So there are a lot of really cool machinery at work out there that’s reserved. And I think just just more importantly, you know, I’m just always impressed with with boiler water and just kind of the handle that they have on things, you know, I mean, you know, it’s one thing to go out and say, oh, yeah, you’re a reclamation, building dam record engineers building a dam, you know, but this is a relatively kind of, you know, probably nobody’s heard or water before, except for those of us who live around here, I suppose. And just how kind of what a handle they have on even these really big projects. And so I just, I’ve always been really impressed with the way in which they kind of deal with things out there. And, and, and just the people that are involved in I mean, I really do it myself.
Unknown Speaker 59:41
Great. Great. Yeah, it was a comment.
Unknown Speaker 59:43
Um, yeah, I guess, to add on to what Tom said and kind of elaborate Is this a lot of time on public outreach? And it really shows how much they try to make it transparent and accessible to people who are voting invested in the project, but also people that are nearby. And I think that that has probably contributed to the success and warm reception than they might have felt otherwise. So I thought that was a really interesting aspect, like you normally see, like insider. You know, engineers are in charge of a project taking two, three hours out of their day, several days a week to speak to public audiences. So that I think was really
Unknown Speaker 1:00:29
great. Any comments on a tour? You went?
Unknown Speaker 1:00:33
Oh, yes, I did. I enjoyed it thoroughly. That’s my first time back in the valley since groundbreaking so was delighted to see how much of the foundation was open and prepped. With me amazing amount of preparatory work out there ready. Ready to get going. That’s gonna really help. Help the dam started going up fast. So yeah, I was fairly early.
Unknown Speaker 1:01:10
I realize. They say it’s on schedule.
Unknown Speaker 1:01:15
Yeah, you mentioned that today. But the last way to get participants, they show the schedule based upon the expenditures. We’re right on track.
Unknown Speaker 1:01:28
Really are great, great.
Unknown Speaker 1:01:33
I told the Council this, this really shows the benefits of forward engineering, because we have way fewer surprises than you would expect. I think much of it sighs
Unknown Speaker 1:01:46
Good. Good. Very good. No further items, anybody have anything before we adjourn?
Unknown Speaker 1:01:58
I’ll jump in Roger with just an observation on, it’s not really supremely relevant to our cash in the conversation. But I was a bit surprised. Boulder and Lafayette worked out a deal with some landowners and some waters being conveyed. And the Highland shares are up at 450,000 a share on this transaction, which is a big number. And it’s CVT, this deed conveying character is 990 units from underneath team, just to many different fields. That’s 68,000. And I’ve seen some 60 8000s a unit on development when it’s just ones and twos, because you pay what you pay. But I haven’t seen a municipality going in 68 for that big of a block. I was really surprised by that. Yeah, that’s a $97,000 acre foot number based on that, like seven acre foot yield. So it’s a really big number. It’s hard to have that.
Unknown Speaker 1:02:59
Yeah. Was just one of that time for me. I don’t know if anybody watched 60 minutes last night, but I had quite a quite a segment on what’s going on the Colorado River with all the rest is things that I thought that was quite interesting, but water continues to get more and more important, obviously. So. Okay, well, I look forward to seeing you all you next month. Again, thank you for your support. And that’s where Jeremy thanks, Roger. Roger
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