Longmont City Council – Regular Session – May 10, 2022
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Unknown Speaker 0:00
Everyone, welcome to the May 10. Regular Session city council meeting. So, can we have a roll call please. Mayor Peck, present,
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Councilmember Daga Ferring. Councilmember Martin, present Mayor Pro Tem Rodriguez Here. Councilmember waters, and Councilmember Yarbro. Mayor, you have a quorum.
Unknown Speaker 0:24
Thank you. Let’s stand for the pledge.
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pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which stands one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
Unknown Speaker 0:47
I would like to note that Councilwoman Hidalgo fairing isn’t here yet. Hopefully she will pop in any minute.
Unknown Speaker 0:59
So I have a reminder to the public that we do not we are not live streaming this meeting tonight. So you can still view it by going to long run public media.org forward slash slash watch forward slash. So anyone that wants to speak at first call public invited to be heard, you have to add your name to the list outside the council chambers. Only those who have added their name will be invited to speak at the first public invited to be heard. speakers who do not place their names on the list. We’ll still have the opportunity to speak during public invited to be heard on items this evening or at the very final call public invited to be heard at the end of the meeting. And I would like to note that Councilwoman dog fairing has entered the room. You You’re welcome. Can I have a motion to approve the minutes of May 5?
Unknown Speaker 1:57
Unknown Speaker 1:59
Thank you and Mayor, there were no minutes for approval on this. Oh, I’m sorry. Last agenda.
Unknown Speaker 2:05
I just read approval of minutes and go with that. Sorry. Lucien. Do we have any agenda revisions?
Unknown Speaker 2:13
We do indeed this evening, Mayor. First of all on consent item nine B 10. Which was resolution our 2022 79 involving agreements with Phyllis II Oh, and for the purchase of real property. That item is being removed from the agenda tonight due to some issues surrounding that agreement. Additionally, council members will find at their desk substitute copy of the agreement for Item nine H which was resolution our 2022 88 resolution of the Longmont City Council approving the Second Amendment to the 2019 intergovernmental agreement between the cities of Boulder and Longmont granting Longmont funds to implement and manage a housing rehabilitation program for the City of Boulder. There were some typographical issues in the copy that went out with the packet and was posted an incorrect reception number in paragraph B. And then we also needed to add the words of Longmont to the word city in section four. And so a corrected copy of that agreement is in front of council members this evening. And finally, staff would like to pull Item nine i for the water supply and Trump management plan 2020 22 and 2023 for presentation this evening. Thank you
Unknown Speaker 3:28
got that. Okay, do any councillors have items that they would like to put on future agendas? Seeing none, we will go to the city manager’s report or in this case the assistant city manager as our city manager Harold Dominguez is not here this evening. No report mayor. All right. We do have special report and presentation but actually it’s a proclamation tonight, designating may 22 is no mo may in Longmont. I’m going to read the proclamation then. If someone who presented us Are you in the room you are that group okay after I read it if you would like to come up and make some statements. So proclamation a proclamation designating may 2022 as no mo may in Longmont, Colorado, whereas the citizens of Longmont recognize that pollinators are crucial contributions to essentially every Terra terrestrial ecosystem on Earth, assisting in plant reproduction and supporting other species of wildlife. And whereas pollinators touch our lives in numerous ways each day, including being responsible for approximately 1/3 of the food and drink we consume. And whereas the citizens and city of Longmont acknowledge that the traditional monoculture lawn lacks floral resources or nesting sites for pollinators, and whereas the citizens and city of Longmont recognize Eyes reduced mowing can create habitat and increase the abundance and diversity of wildlife, including bees and other pollinators and whereas Nomo may aims to encourage citizens to allow lawns to grow unmown For the month of May, creating important habitat and forage for early season pollinators. Now therefore, I Joan Peck Mayor by virtue of the authority vested in me and the City Council of the City of Longmont, do hereby proclaim May 2022, as no mo may in Longmont, and encourage community members to participate, participate by not mowing their lawns in May. So do you like to come up?
Unknown Speaker 5:44
Hi, thank you very much air pack. And I wanted to give an extra shout out to Councilmember Martin for the extra support she gave me in suggesting this proclamation. So as you proclaimed, it’s no moment. So what I wanted to talk a little bit about why, why we wanted to do this. Lawns are the single largest irrigated crop that we grow. They provide little benefit to wildlife and use large amounts of money, time and other resources. As you mentioned, the traditional model culture long lacks floral resources and nesting sites for bees, and is often treated with large amounts of pesticides and herbicides that harm bees and other invertebrates. We need to rethink the American lawn and other turf areas in our city. Supporting no mow May is a great way for the city and residents to recognize this need for change. Mowing lawns creates mowing lawns less creates habitat and increases the abundance and diversity of wildlife, including bees and other pollinators. It saves water helps your lawns become more resilient to drought reduces emissions from gas powered lawn equipment that often lack emission reduction equipment. So I think this is exciting. And I hope everyone will try and get their HOAs on board with this as well. So thank you very much, council and mayor.
Unknown Speaker 7:04
Thank you Would you care to have a picture taken? Well,
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we give you the picture. We
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have a few people here that well they all want to speak No, they just want it to be here for the presentation Yeah.
Unknown Speaker 7:50
To thank you. Before we move on to the first call public invited to be heard, I would like to take a moment to recognize our transportation planners, Phil Greenwald and Ben Ortiz. At the recent Dr. cog award celebration, long months transportation planner Phil Greenwald, was recognized for his work on the way to go program. He’s not here through RTD. This is this is an exciting program. And it is the first time in two and a half years that Dr. cog actually had an intern in person meeting and awards celebration. So it was really with pride that I watched Phil go up and it was very interesting to watch he and Ben decide who is going to go out and get this award. So way to go is a program through RTD and it is free transit. So if anyone’s interested, go on the RTD site and search for way to go and it might be something that you would like to try out. So now we can go on. First call public invited to be heard. Remember that we have three minutes and would you please state your name and address. The first one is Jeremy Gregory.
Unknown Speaker 9:33
Thank you, Mayor Peck and city council Jeremy Gregory, two three eighths weed Valley court Longmont, Colorado, and I just want to take a quick moment to sincerely thank you for making the month of May no mo May. This can be a really big step in educating and more so inspiring our community to incorporate attainable solutions based practices in their lives to help protect our environment. But we shouldn’t stop here. Let this be just one of many other vitals steps that we can take from a pipe from replacing water sacking lawns in favor of more endemic drought tolerant landscaping to concepts like removing single use plastics from our city and using something that is more ecologically sound even. These are these high impact solutions are something that my fellow colleagues and I will be looking forward to working with city council on the near future. But again, thank you again for being open and receptive to ideas that protect our environment while improving the quality of life for all the residents of Longmont including the sentient beings we share this amazing place with so thank you guys. Thank you for sharing me.
Unknown Speaker 10:35
Anna looks like that. Okay. It looks like you’ve crossed your name off for a moment,
Unknown Speaker 10:40
right? My address correct? Yes, my name is Anna Rivas. I’m at 4501 Nelson road. And while we’re on the subject of no mo May, and think rethinking attitudes and practices around mowing grass, I wanted to also bring up a related issue that needs reconsideration. With climate change and the impact it’s having on our water resources, we need to reevaluate where that water is used. I was reading in the Denver Post about the 20 year mega drought we’re in this year, Colorado didn’t get enough snow over the winter to recover its dry soils and waterways. At best portions of the states are considered abnormally dry by the US Drought Monitor. At worst, we’re in the southeast and southwest corners are in an exceptional drought. Colorado didn’t get enough snow to fully recover from the ongoing mega drought and whatever snow we did get as melting too quickly. And it’s going to be probably completely melted out by end of May or beginning of June. This pattern is only the beginning of what we’ll see with climate change and such in light of such a dramatic decrease in available water plans that were made almost two decades ago when climate change was barely registering on most people’s minds need to be reevaluated. Specifically, I’m thinking about the plans that were made for Dry Creek Park. Although there’s a small creek that flows through there, it will likely completely live up to its name in the near future. The plan calls for planting the area with turf for more sports fields. Given the scenario we’re facing creating new vast expanses of grass that need watering, fertilizing, mowing, and herbicides are the opposite of what’s called for it would be unwise to to refuse to correct course, of course correct and instead follow through with the plans that were made, when we still were not acknowledging the reality of climate change. Now with all the recent fires we have seen and the undeniable fact that we’re not getting the stone rain that we’re so used to getting. forging ahead with such plans would be like plowing a ship into an iceberg simply because it was a designated course. In light of climate change and the threats of facing pollinators. Rather than proceeding to create an area that needs to be pampered with regular watering and mowing, fertilizing and pesticide applications, it makes more sense to leave the area in a more natural state. Moreover, during the pandemic, many people rediscover the comfort and joy to be found in spending time in nature, observing birds and other wildlife. Spending time in nature has been scientifically proven to help with mental health problems, such as anxiety and depression. The American Psychological Association has said that spending time in nature is linked to both cognitive benefit benefits, and improvements in mood, mental health and emotional well being. With the current state of the world and the economic situation, we could certainly use more more doses of nature. So I hope you will reconsider your plans to destroy this small quiet pocket of nature that exists in my neighborhood. Thank you.
Unknown Speaker 13:37
Thank you, Anna. And I apologize for this next name if I screw it up Anthony Korea. Okay.
Unknown Speaker 13:50
Hello, hello. My first time up here. My name is anthem with changing the future. We help out with the homeless here in Longmont. And I know there was an issue that was that keeps coming up about landing Park I want to bring to your attention is that a lot of them they’re afraid. They’re afraid to go for help. They’re afraid to go to hope they’re afraid to go to the our senator, mostly because they got tickets for trespassing and small things. What has been said to me is that a lot of them are being arrested, they will go to jail, they’ll come out they’ll go back into jail. And that’s just for being at the park. I know that a lot of them are on drugs. A lot of there’s a lot of issues with that. But there is a lot of good ones. And the way I see it is is I look at them as kids as family. There’s always that family member that child that doesn’t listen to you. And all we can do is try and help no matter what even if they keep doing bad. Because one day they’re going to give up and say you know what I want to change and I want to be there to help them. We’ve helped with have cell phones, we help with jobs. We help with food, we help with clothes out of our own pockets. Now, I’m not officially a 501 C three. But it’s a goal of mine. Because I used to be homeless myself. I used to live in parks, I used to live with family friends, I had to move from places. I used to live right across the street. At the in between. I got kicked out because they said I was doing drugs. That was false. There was a lot of things. But I came up in life. And now I want to help the homeless. A lot of them are not here. A lot of them would like to speak. A lot of people they don’t know their side of the stories. We don’t know until we actually talk to them. A lot of the stuff that they go through with hope and with the our center with a lot of the other nonprofits no one doesn’t see it. No one doesn’t hear. They’re afraid. Right now I have about 20 to 30 that are living outside of Longmont, which no one’s never seen off of one it anything can Pratt they have tomorrow to leave, they only have a week they’ve been there for three years undetected. Because they just want to be left alone. Now we can push them to the side, we can hide them. But there’s still people, we’re still going to have this problem. We’re going to keep having this problem until we fix it until they actually have a spy. I understand the kids want to play at the parks. I understand about all that. But there’s the ones that are afraid are the ones that actually don’t have a chance they don’t have a driver’s license. And when the police stopped buying, they throw away their stuff. And they have their driver’s license in there. Guess what they have to start all over? No one doesn’t know until they actually talk to them. There’s times where I had to go pick up trash. And I know it wasn’t them. It could be a random person that doesn’t like the homeless that throws the trash. There’s way more to this story and no one’s not paying attention to it actually took time from work to come to say this.
Unknown Speaker 17:06
Thank you Anthony and keep up your work your good work. Thank you Paul Fitzgerald
Unknown Speaker 17:24
Good evening, Mayor Peck, and Councilman. My name is Paula Fitzgerald. I’m at 419 Emery Street. You’ll be voting tonight on the proposed change to the public lands section of the municipal code. There are three sections in this proposed amendment two of them to find camping, and shelter use and I have no problem with those. But the third change relates to park hours and this is a mistake. The proposed change will move hours for neighborhood parks to the same category as nature’s greenways, which are habitat areas with an abundance of wildlife. neighborhood parks generally do not have an abundance of wildlife. This is an inappropriate change and doesn’t fit the park areas. The apparent reason for the change is to address the homeless issue at Lanyon Park and maybe a handful of other parks. I understand this is a big problem for Lanyon. But to take a blanket approach to the entire city because of issues Atlantean is unreasonable. There have been very few problems with use until 11pm in most of our other 25 neighborhood parks, so Why punish the entire community for the problems at one. These are public parks and should be open and accessible to the public as much as is reasonable. The exceptions in the proposed ordinance also shorten the time of use from 11 to 10pm. For specific lighted facilities. What about those who may be in the park because of family members playing in a lighted facility but they want to enjoy in other areas of the park? What about those warm winter nights when the sun sets at 4pm but is still pleasant enough to enjoy your neighborhood park. For those that return home from work at 5pm or later they just be out of luck. This ordinance changes unreasonable and not localized to the to the problem area. Temporary rules are needed at times and should be enacted when, when and where appropriate. Landing has needed temporary rules to address a problem with homelessness and that park should continue to loot utilize them until the problem is solved. But please don’t make make the answer to this problem a problem in itself. I also object to the lack of public process in this proposal as far as I can tell a very small staff group and handpick community members vetted this change. Only last night Did it go to parks and rec advisory board and there wasn’t any information in the on the proposal in the agenda packet That’s a poor way to engage the public. I ask that you amend this amendment by removing the park hours recommendation, continue to work on land and to resolve that problem. Some of you may remember Don Besler, who was Parks and Rec director several years ago, Don was fond of saying legitimate use displaces illegitimate use. This is true. Let’s encourage people to get out and use our parks and target the problems when and where they arise. Keep our parks open for us to enjoy, please, thank you.
Unknown Speaker 20:34
Thank you, Paula. Sharon O’Leary.
Unknown Speaker 20:58
Sharon Alarie 534 Emory street City Council on your agenda 12. B. There is an item about changing all city park hours to close one hour after sunset and one hour before sunrise. This is a huge change to the long standing standard of Longmont neighborhood parks, which is 5am to 11pm, which is also curfew. It appears that the city change of park hours is to match those to the Greenway and nature areas which you should be aware of, or have completely different standards as well as uses. This decision was not made with prab. Parks and Rec board input until the night prior to this meeting. But most importantly, it was not made with public input. One can only guess the reason for this landmark change. Could it be a short sighted decision to a solution to homelessness? So instead of gathering public input on the societal issue, the city will punish all citizens with less hours to access their neighborhood park, taxpaying citizens who also pay a bonus to dollars parks in Greenway monthly maintenance fee will have less Park access due to problems of non taxpaying citizens. I believe there are better solutions. First gather in depth data to support your decision from other cities across Colorado and other states. What are their neighborhood park hours? What are their community park hours? What solution so have those cities use to address homelessness in neighborhood parks? A majority of cities have already had to deal with this issue, or the majority these cities using one size fit all as an approach and has it been successful? Well, for starters, let’s just look at the resource Longmont already has in place. This should have been a multi meeting agenda item for neighborhood group leaders Association, instead of our typical items such as city trash and composting. And how does that Department operates? The ng l a website states that the mission of NGO A is a forum for community leaders to collectively identify concerns, discuss issues resolve conflict, implements solutions and create healthy neighborhoods with a strong sense of community. Gathering information and ideas from other neighborhoods is a great starting point. Next, and GLA city employee Wayne Tomek and his team should be assisting the neighbors of Lanyon Park and becoming a registered neighborhood, along with the assistance of other organized neighborhoods. Give Lanyon Park the same time and attention that Hoa is presently received. Finally displace undesirable use with desirable use. Load up this park with family and community activities don’t pass the burden of increased cost to make new park signs that new for the new hours and the added cost of enforcement whether it’s Rangers or police officers on to the long run citizens Please do not make rules or a small number of people think like share hood public you back into the process.
Unknown Speaker 24:11
Thank you Sharon. Jeffrey justice.
Unknown Speaker 24:28
Jeffrey, Justice 1402 Emory CT. I want to start with my conclusions. I don’t have the answer. I’m talking about the homeless situation. I’ve been walking my dogs around Longmont for 12 years so I’ve seen a lot. I’ve been through all the parks all the outlying areas I’ve seen a lot probably more than most people. I run into, you know the homeless or displaced people all the time. Some of them are very nice. I look forward to seeing them. I don’t think they cause problems at all. They’re just displaced and they have no means others do have a problem and do cause problems. There’s a lot of intravenous drug use needles left all over the place. I’ve seen all that too. But to me, this is just a problem of society. I don’t see what the answer is. If you move people away from Lanyon, Park, where are they going to go? They don’t have any means. So they’re going to go to another park Spangler Park, call your park, it’s just to another place and to another place. I don’t know what the answer is. But you have people that some have drug problems, some do this by choice. I look at them as refugees. I think some things that could be done. I would like to see more porta potties around certain areas. Because I mean, where do people go? You could put them in certain areas, and that that might help help some things. But the main thing that for me is where do they go? You will clear Lanyon Park. But I don’t think the police are going to start arresting people. I mean, people don’t even get arrested for a car theft and catalytic converter theft, they get a citation. So what are they going to do when someone’s in a park after hours? So I don’t I don’t have the answer. I just think I treat these people as people. I don’t know what the answer is. It’s just a problem of our society. And I hope Longmont can come together with gentleman like this and others and get some relief for this situation. Thank you.
Unknown Speaker 26:56
Thank you. Jeffrey,
Unknown Speaker 26:59
Unknown Speaker 27:12
Good evening, mayor and council members. My name is Paige Lewis. I live at 805 Nelson Park Lane. I’m currently the chair of the Parks and Recreation advisory board. And I noted that you have a motion with regard to a new recreation facility on your agenda later tonight. So I just wanted to come and express the board’s appreciation for you considering our motion. And let you know that this really is remains a top priority for the board. So much so that we have put it as a standing item on all of our agendas so that we can stay regularly in touch with staff and council members as this issue is considered. Despite the fact that the recent ballot initiative related to a pool and ice did not pass, we continue to hear a lot of interest from the public a lot of strong demand for additional recreation facilities in Longmont and a feeling that for a city of our size, we really are lacking in those facilities. And it’s something that it’s important to address. We do think it’s important that prior to action, the council invests in updated polling and feasibility analysis to make sure that our understanding of what the community’s priorities are with regard to new recreation facilities is current. A lot of things have changed through our experience of COVID. And it’s important that we approach this with an updated perspective. We also want to know what are the best options for designing a facility or complex that maximizes records, recreation opportunities for the city and surrounding communities is up to date and also fiscally responsible. So again, I really just wanted to come tonight and express our appreciation for you taking this up. We stand ready to work with you as you determine next steps on this important issue for the well being and health of the community. Thank You page.
Unknown Speaker 29:06
Aaron, Angel, or inhale Angel
Unknown Speaker 29:17
Hi, my name is Aaron Angel and I live at 1304 South Terry street and I hate public speaking. And so it’s making me nervous, which I shouldn’t be. I happen to be on the Parks and Recreation advisory board as well but I don’t pretend to speak for the board on this we just we actually were just kind of alerted to the situation with the the new curfew in the parks and the the new regulations for shelters that was just told us I told to us last night so I haven’t even had much time to ruminate on that part except for to say that I think two hours in a park shelter is too short for anybody’s really good birthday party. And not everybody does feel comfortable renting because renting the park shelter because not everybody has the money for that. So I’d say bump it up to two and a half hours, maybe three. And I’d be on board with that personally. The part that really, really deep seated bothers me about that whole proposition is well first, the lack of lack of pelvic process. And I know that you, you really worked hard for certain groups to get their voice heard with lynnium Park. But that same effort wasn’t extended to all the community members and for all the parks. And my park doesn’t fit that mold. I live by Kinomoto Park. In fact, I call most of the parks my park, but they’re your parks too, and hers and his and they’re all our parks and my park doesn’t fit that mold of being able to be closed right after dark. So my park happens to be in sophomore park where we have a super mixed group of people. And lots and lots of my neighbors work construction, and roofing and landscaping. And in the summers, they don’t come home until after dark because that’s when their job ends. And they still have a need to recreate. And they do recreate and their families go out and they kick back and hang out in the park until midnight or later. But mostly kids go home at midnight. And maybe the parents are staying up later. Our Park is alive and kickin and happy and fun after dark. And I’d like to see all the parks like that. I bet Landon could be like that too. If more people would come out and be in lynnium Park, I know that there’s been a push by some people in the city to create some activities there and we’re just gonna go out and do it. And I was on I was asked to sign up for that like a month ago. So I’m going to do it and I’m going to help out where I can but I asked you not to make a blanket curfew. It makes it makes our young people uncomfortable to be approached by the police on the curfew. And they shouldn’t feel uncomfortable in their parks their their parks. And thanks and have a good evening.
Unknown Speaker 32:21
Thank you Aaron Strider.
Unknown Speaker 32:39
Striker benched and 951 was 17th It was great to see Aaron here. Were in the same church that donated land and built small homes for people and we also melted down guns and to agricultural instruments. So that’s cool. And as some often is the case I agree with everything everybody has said. And also, I’ve been no mo in May for the last 70 years or more. I ate my dandelions they that’s about the best food on the planet. Most people poison and then the butterflies and bees get poisoned because they put poison out in everywhere. But so many things. There I’ve just read today, a preacher at a white southern baptist mega church near my hometown in Fort Smith, Arkansas, said he cannot preach anymore because many people in his congregation well, he made some reference to people don’t worship God anymore. They worship celebrities, you know, and could be Oprah could be Trump. He mentioned Tom Hanks, and he got assaulted by people in his own church. He’s the senior pastor of a mega mega church because they said, Oh, Tom Hanks eats babies. And that’s the type of insanity of a major portion of our country that is taking place now. And it just trends. I m. Q anon. Putin Trump, it’s the same person pretty much. And this all in on this the same as Putin on day on de were ordered to dismiss they’re lying about the election in 2020, but they’re continuing to To do it, they just made one little statement that nobody watched. And the well, the Supreme Court All right. They’ve said women are no longer citizens, they have no rights that can be thrown in jail and their doctors and their mother and their taxi cab driver and such as that. And then they said, Well, we got a foothold. Let’s go back. Let’s abolish any Supreme Court decision we don’t like, like Brown versus Board. resegregate the schools have financially and they can go back to Dred Scott, black people are no longer human beings. Thank you. Let’s wake up and realize what’s happening.
Unknown Speaker 35:53
Thank you. Is there anyone else in the audience who would like to speak at first public invited to be heard? Seeing none, I’m going to close public invited to be heard. And we’re going to move on to the consent agenda. Lucianne Would you mind reading the items in the consent agenda into the record?
Unknown Speaker 36:12
Certainly mayor. ordinances on this consent agenda will be set for second reading and public hearing on May 24 2022. Unless otherwise noted following the item title. Item nine A is ordinance o 20 2218. A bill for an ordinance authorizing a long term water supply agreement between the city of Longmont acting by and through its water utility enterprise, East Cherry Creek water, Valley Water and Sanitation District acting on its own and on it on behalf of its east Cherry Creek Valley Water activity enterprise Inc, Arapahoe County Water and Wastewater authority and united Water and Sanitation District. Adam nine B is resolutions of the Longmont City Council authorizing agreements between the city and multiple property owners along 17th Avenue for the purchase of real property for sidewalk improvements. In the following 13 items are those agreements along 17 tab. One is our 20 2270 a resolution of the Longmont City Council authorizing agreements between the city of Longmont and Robert P. Gilligan for the purchase of real property at 22 10/17 Avenue for the 17th Avenue sidewalk improvements project. Two is our 2022 71 a resolution of the Longmont City Council authorizing agreements between the city of Longmont and Harry, Larry J. Hayes for the purchase of real property at 21 50/17 Avenue for the 17th Avenue sidewalk improvements project. threes are 2022 72 a resolution of the Longmont City Council authorizing agreements between the city of Longmont policy Hoffman and Robert R. Orlando for the purchase of real property at 1724 Sumner Street for the 17th Avenue. sidewalk improvements project for is our 2022 73 a resolution of the Longmont City Council authorizing agreements between the city of Longmont, Michael G. Jordan and Murray a Jordan for the purchase of real property at 1708 17th Avenue versus the 17th Avenue sidewalk improvement improvements project. Five is our 2022 74 resolution to the Longmont City Council authorizing agreements between the city of Longmont and the state of Myrtle s Kevin and Louis H. Kevin for the purchase of real property at 1408 17th Avenue the 17th Avenue sidewalk improvements project. Six is our 2020 to 75 a resolution to the Long Island City Council authorizing agreements between the city of Longmont and Robert L. Kevin for the purchase of real property at 14 24/17 Avenue for the 17th Avenue sidewalk improvements project. Seven is our 2022 76 a resolution of the Longmont City Council authorizing agreements between the city of Longmont, Sharon and Lundgren and Donald E. Catch for the purchase of real property at 1808 17th Avenue for the 17th Avenue sidewalk improvements project. Eight is our 2022 77 resolution of the Longmont City Council authorizing agreements between the city of Longmont and Kathy and more for the purchase of real property at 1802 17th Avenue for the 17th Avenue sidewalk improvements project. Nine is our 2022 78 a resolution to the Longmont City Council authorizing agreements between the city of Longmont and Sara Joyce Morrow for the purchase of real property at 15 24/17 Avenue for the 17th Avenue sidewalk improvements project. 10 r 2022 79 was removed from the consent agenda as noted earlier. 11 is our 2022 at a resolution to the Longmont City Council authorizing agreements between the city of Longmont and Mary Jo Rourke for the purchase of real property 1500 17th Avenue for the 17th Avenue sidewalk improvements project. 12 is our 2022 81 a resolution of the Longmont City Council authorizing agreements between the city of Longmont and Judy Kay Turner for the purchase of real property at 1608 17th Avenue for the 17th Avenue sidewalk improvements project. And 13 is our 2022 82 a resolution of the Longmont City Council authorizing agreements between the city of Longmont and David J. Walter for the purchase of real property at 1600 17th Avenue for the 17th Avenue sidewalk improvements project. Item nine c is our 2022 83. A resolution of the Longmont City Council approving the intergovernmental agreement between the city and Boulder County prepared education services for family engaged in the rewind program. Nine D is our 2022 84 a resolution of the Longmont City Council approving the revocable permit and agreement between the city and able to sail for summer camps at Union reservoir. Nine E is our 2022 85 a resolution of the long run city council approving the revocable permit and agreement between the city and Rocky Mountain paddleboard LLC for paddle board operations at Union reservoir. Nine F is our 2022 86 a resolution of the Longmont City Council approving the revocable permit and agreement between the city and the union sailing club to provide sailing opportunities at Union reservoir. Nine G is our 2022 87 a resolution of the Longmont City Council approving the revocable permit and agreement between the city and garden acres batting ranges LLC to provide batting cage operations at Garden acres community park. Nine H is our 2022 88 a resolution to the Longmont City Council approving the Second Amendment to the 2019 Inter governmental agreement between the cities of Boulder and Longmont granting Longmont funds to implement and manage a housing rehabilitation program for the City of Boulder. Nine i is except the city of Longmont 2020 to 2023 water supply and drought management plan. And nine j is approved to capital improvement program amendments.
Unknown Speaker 41:32
Thank you, Lucien. That was a very long, yay. Great. Are there any councillors that would like to pull any items off of this consent agenda? Seeing none. Can I have a motion to approve the consent agenda? I moved to approve the Consent Agenda. Can I have a second?
Tim Waters 42:02
I think we need to remove.
Unknown Speaker 42:05
Oh, that’s right. You want to go ahead and make the motion. I take my motion off of the agenda and Councilman waters is going to make one
Tim Waters 42:17
I move approval Yes.
Unknown Speaker 42:26
I correct. Nine i and then also
Unknown Speaker 42:35
did we want to take off 10 as well for the B 10. Thank you. We’re gonna get this right. So it’s been seconded by Councillor Martin. All those in favor? Are we going to vote? Yep. Vote electronically.
Unknown Speaker 43:03
And that passes unanimously. Thank you, everybody for moving that. So um, are we going to have a staff presentation? No, we’ll wait for that. So we’re gonna move right into the ordinance on second reading and public hearings on any matter. At this time. If anyone in the public would like to speak on an item on this agenda when you’re when it is called for public invited to be heard now would be the time to do that. Number 10. Is a tin A is Oh 20 2216. A bill for an ordinance amending chapter 2.8 4.020 of the Longmont municipal code on the Senior Citizens Advisory Board. Do we have a staff report on this? No. Okay. Do we have any questions from Council on this ordinance? Seeing none with the public light? Is there anybody from the public that would like to speak on this ordinance? Seeing none, I will close the public public hearing. Can I have a motion for this ordinance? Councillor Martin?
Unknown Speaker 44:14
Passage of ordinance 2022.
Unknown Speaker 44:20
Okay, it’s been Moved by Councillor Martin seconded by Mayor Pro Tem Rodriguez. All those in favor? Or let’s vote. Shall we just do a hand vote on this one? All those in favor, please raise your hand All those opposed? That passes unanimously 10 B is a bill for an ordinance amending chapter 11.04 section 11.0 4.1 40 of the Longmont municipal code on the extension of the traffic traffic safety surcharge. Do we have a staff report on this ordinance seeing None. Do we have any discussion from councillors on this ordinance? Is there anybody in the public that would like to speak on this ordinance? Seeing none, I’ll close the public hearing and let’s vote on
Unknown Speaker 45:14
ordinance 20 2217.
Unknown Speaker 45:16
Thank you. Okay, afternoon moved by Mayor Pro Tem Rodriguez, seconded by Councillor Hidalgo fairing Let’s vote. And that carries passes unanimously. Now we’re gonna go to items that have been removed from the consent agenda, which is items I and 10. Just not 10 We okay. Once amended and removed Yeah. Okay. And we do have a presentation. Hello,
Unknown Speaker 45:53
good evening, mayor and council member can use it on the Water Resources matters city long mountain. Now I would like to present the 2020 to 23 water supply and drought management plan. As you have probably been hearing in the news, there’s, there’s a little concern about water supply all over the state of Colorado, especially southern and so I’d like to introduce Wes Lowry, who’s our water resources analyst who does a lot of the number crunching on this. So I wanted to give him an opportunity to go over some of the some of the numbers and then also a little explanation for why we are where we are in Longmont versus some of those cities. So thank you very much.
Unknown Speaker 46:44
Madam Mayor and members of council want to thank you for this opportunity to speak to you guys about the city alignments water supply and drought management plan for the 2020 to 2023. Last month, this plan was presented to the Longmont Water Board and the sustainability advisory board and at their meetings. They concurred with staff to recommend acceptance of the plan before you tonight.
Unknown Speaker 47:25
So the first thing I wanted to talk about was the water supply and demand projections for this year. So comparing long month’s water supply to projected demand is the principal evaluation tool that the plan uses to determine the most appropriate drought response level for Longmont. So kind of a summary of that plan that was included in your packet. And as described in the plan when the primary indicators for determining of Longmont is at a sustainable conservation level is when water supplies 135% of its projected demand for 2022 long that is at projected at 141% For comparison, and 2020 and 2021. long lost percent of supply demand was 138 and 141%, respectively. Currently, the snowpack, streamflow and storage for the same rain basin are near average. And then I’m going to highlight the snowpack differences later in this presentation. The 2023 and 20 24% of supply demand projections are 140 and 137%. So you can see that we’re just we’re slightly above that trigger.
Unknown Speaker 48:55
So what is the current level of drought in May of last year Council accepted along lots current 2021 and 22 water supply and drought management plan, which established law meant to be at a sustainable conservation level. So that’s where we’re at now. And that’s also where we’re proposing that remain. This year’s plan also indicates Longmont will remain at that same level. And based upon our water treatment plan production information. Lamotte customers have continued to demonstrate that they’re doing their best management practices. In 2021. Customers used approximately 95% of the amount of water that was used by customers in 2002. So although we’ve had more customers or people living in the city in the last 19 years, the amount of per capita use has went down. That’s less water use. When it is sustainable conservation level. We’re going the city will continue to implement the Public Information efforts, the city will voluntarily work towards a 10% reduction in water use for all city uses. There will be no surplus water rental declaration, and staff will continuous ly monitor water demand and supply uses. So looking at comparing front city of Longmont with other front range of water providers. One of the goals of this presentation is to explain what some of the primary differences are between Longmont and other Front Range cities as they may find themselves in different response, drought response levels. So why Islam was still at this level when others are not many of the most senior water rights in the South Platte basin can be found in the originating in the long greater Longmont area. And by application of our raw water requirement policy, we’ve received a large interest in those water rights. And because of that, we now have very strong senior water rights portfolio. Walmart’s overall trans basin water supply so those will be waters that come from the Colorado Big Thompson River Project. That is a significant source of Walmart’s total supply. And so that’s we have a lot of water that’s available to us because of that, and I’ll speak to that here in a little bit. Local Storage is near average, the South Platte River storage, so that’d be out in eastern Longmont is above average. So as the water comes out of the mountains through snow melt, there’s a smaller hole than might otherwise we would find. long months guiding water principles in in particular application of the raw water requirement policy, water conservation master plan and raw water Master Plan continue to position along but in a really strong position. Probably though the most significant difference this year is that of the snowpack. snowpack in the st. Vereen basin is near 100% of average, and is one of the strongest in Colorado, a lot of other watersheds don’t have as strong of a snowpack as we do. You, you find that there’s kind of a invisible line in Colorado, if you’re north of that line, it’s typically we’re finding that it’s wetter, if you’re south of that line is drier. And that line kind of ebbs and flows. This year, we’re kind of on the north side or in the wetter side. So here’s a graph. The graph represents where South Platte River Basin snowpack is so this would be for the entire South Platte River Basin. The upper line is the maximum that we’ve seen. The middle line, the green line is the average and the red line is the minimal minimum amount. So you might consider the red line typically represents what we would have seen in 2002. For those that have were around Longmont at that time. In the South Platte basin, the overall snowpack is currently around 85% And that’s represented by that dark black line. Whereas in the North St. Vereen basin, that’s the watershed that feeds
Unknown Speaker 53:44
button rock reservoir along with its water supply, primarily for the wintertime, which is at nearly 100%. So again, our specific basin in snowpack is doing much better than than others. Next, we’ve got a slide on the Upper Colorado River snowpack, which shows the supplies there to be around 75% this particular graph represents where communities such as Denver and Aurora would get their trans basin supplies in comparison to Longmont. This is a graph that is an example of what the snowpack looks where Longmont gets its trans basin supplies, which again shows our snowpack to be slightly over 100%. So some of the factors that may impact long months outlook. We’ve we’ve identified a number of different ones. The these factors kind of categorized into four general groups. The first being if there was a significant increase of Longmont customer water use over projected amount. So in other words, if for whatever reason the customers use more than was expected, when we run our scenarios, we anticipate up to about a two and a half percent increase over the previous year. And that seems to be a fairly conservative estimate. The second would be a significant reduction in late summer precipitation. So if it’s very dry and hot, that would make a difference, we typically see that we receive about one and a half inches per month on the average in the summer months. So if we don’t get those types of rain, and it’s hot and dry, windy, which we’re all tired of that that could have an impact. Significantly abnormal runoff, that would be where the runoff is quick and short. That means there’s less water in the longer end of the of the summer. That would happen if it got really hot early on and stayed hot for a couple of weeks. That would have an impact. Lastly, would be a disruptive event such as major fires, and we’ve all experienced those, any one of those four things could could change the outlook. But those are the four primary categories. So lastly, we wanted to highlight two data summary charts that include that were included in the board’s packet, it was referred to as table A and Table B. Those are the two tables that really define as to what crate what level we would be at. So the first one here is the table a that was found in the board’s packet. This graph, it shows on the far right, you can’t read it unless you’re looking in your packet or maybe home online. But the far left column shows what it was in 2002. That was when we were last at a level one. And the for a short period, we were at a level two drought response. Excuse me. The next two columns, show what Sebata supply versus demand was for 2020 and 2021. The middle, the middle column is for this year, and then the last two for the two years following in 2023 and 2024. So what we’re really paying attention to in this plan is what is the projection for this year in the next two years all which as I indicated earlier, above the 135% trigger point. And lastly, Table B, this speaks specifically to Ralph price reservoir, and it gives a amount that is to be expected in storage at the end of the run off. For that we choose July 15. And staff production as that button rock will fill and certainly within the greater than 90% necessary to be at a sustainable conservation level. So the runoff typically begins at the end of April. This year, we found that in our basin, it’s not started until just last week, so at the first part of May. So it’s actually moved back. So we’re just now starting to fill button rock. But we’re definitely positioned to be able to fill it by the end of the runoff season.
Unknown Speaker 58:35
With that, if there’s any questions I or if they’re really hard can can help answer them. Otherwise, that’s that’s all I have.
Unknown Speaker 58:46
Thank you as a councillor Martin. Oh, yeah, that would be good.
Unknown Speaker 58:55
Thank you, Mr. Peck. Great job as always, Wes. And I, this was a really clear presentation. And it explains that Longmont has been prudent in the way it has provisioned itself with water, and that we have been prudent in the way we have used water in the past. And we have plenty is the is the bottom line there. It doesn’t answer a question that environmental environmentalists in the city often ask in good conscience. And I have we had one today in public invited to be heard where the conclusion was, we should not plan to do something that uses water because that water belongs in the Colorado River. And here we have a situation where lakes All the way down from the one that actually we get our hydropower from all the way down to Powell and Mead are so low, that the hydro vents are sticking up out of the, out of the surface of the water or very nearly so. And so the question that the public asks, is, why can’t we put our excess back? Or, more logically speaking, why can’t we simply decline to divert the water that we don’t need and leaving on the western slope? I know that there is a pile of case law. And and you know, Colorado are amazingly complex water law. And it may be a precedent we don’t want to set. But I would like you guys to explain this in, you know, like we’re five and explained to us why that’s difficult or why that’s inadvisable? Or why we’ve never done it before. What would have to happen if we needed to do that?
Unknown Speaker 1:01:10
Thank you, Mayor, Councilmember Martin. Yeah, that’s a very good question and a very complex, large question to answer. And I’ll try not to take too long. But it’s it’s it’s both driven by Colorado water law. And what can happen with water in Colorado, as well as the Colorado River Compact, which directs really what happens with water in the Colorado River all the way to and including Mexico. The any, any water that was our Westslope, water to Westslope, water supply sources the car, Big Thompson and windy gap water projects, either one of those two projects. They are long months, not the only participant. So in the case of cholera, Big Thompson projects, which 310,000 shares of CBT are a lot more units of the CBD, while not owns about 12,000. So we’re 12,310 1000s. So we’re, we got a significant holding, but we’re still a very, very small portion of that project at the if we chose not to. And in most years, we do you know, we rarely if ever use all of our CBT water because we hold it towards the end of the summer to make sure we have sufficient supplies when the stream the native streams or native basin goes down. If we don’t use that water, it essentially reverts back to the CVT system, and then is reallocated that next year and we get our proportionate allocation, but it’s reallocated to all the participants in the project. The CBT project does occasionally fill in spill, but it’s fairly rare. It most years, there isn’t sufficient water to completely fill it. So any water that’s not used by Longmont would essentially not go down to either Lake Powell or Lake Mead, and would would be reallocated to other users. Then, if any, any water would go on past the karmic Thompson, which is the very headwaters there are many, many, many water rights and diversions, all the way from the color of the lake Granby area, all the way down to the Utah border. Any one of those water rights have the right to divert any water that another water user doesn’t use. So it would most certainly be diverted from most of the year. During the spring runoff, you might get a little bit down there. Then once it hits Lake Powell, and that’s there’s really an upper and lower basin, the upper basin is Lake Powell and up the lower basin is below Lake Powell. And on down any any water that is in Lake Powell, essentially becomes part of the overall Lake Powell and Lake Mead water supply that is managed by the federal government, US Bureau of Reclamation. And there are a number of operating protocols that essentially what let essentially in the past is let that water go on past Lake Powell down to Lake Mead, and I’m going to editorialize here a little bit. The lower basin you uses more water out of Lake Mead than they should, then they’re allocated than is prudent. And as a result that pulls down both Lake Powell and Lake Mead. And so yes, you know, water, you could try to get water on down there. But it would not have changed what we have the situation we have right now with the water levels in either palette or meat. So yeah, that’s incredibly complex of why and how all that operates.
Unknown Speaker 1:05:31
So just to sum up, what you said is, no matter how much we want to, there’s no way for us to earmark any of our water for Lake Mead, somebody else is going to get it. It might as well be us.
Unknown Speaker 1:05:47
That is true. We can’t thank you.
Unknown Speaker 1:05:57
Doesn’t click there. Any other comments? Thank you very much. This was very helpful.
Unknown Speaker 1:06:02
Thank you. Thank you.
Unknown Speaker 1:06:04
Oops, looks like we have Mayor Pro Tem Rodriguez.
Unknown Speaker 1:06:08
Yeah, I just wanted to make the motion to accept the city of Longmont 2022 2023, water supply and drought management plan.
Unknown Speaker 1:06:15
So there’s been moved by Mayor Pro Tem Rodriguez, seconded by Councillor Martin, all those in favor? Well, let’s let’s vote first before I ask that.
Unknown Speaker 1:06:27
Oops, turn it off. So that carried unanimously Thank you. Let’s see, what else do we have here? Oh, now we come to first of all, does anybody need a break? Are you ready to take a break? Can we move on? Continue? Wrap it up? Thank you. We are
Unknown Speaker 1:07:01
now we’re at general business, which is our public lands facility in shelter reservations, then we do have a presentation on this. Yes,
Unknown Speaker 1:07:11
thank you, Mara Peck Sandy cedar, assistant city manager, I’m going to just start it up and frame it a little bit as Harold might if you were here, and then turn it over to the team to talk a little bit about the process what some of the goals of this was, and what we’re asking tonight. So first of all, I just want to make sure that people understand what the goals of what we’re doing are. And so I’ve laid them out here on this presentation. We’re really trying to create safe and welcoming parks for all. And so we’ve created a neighborhood impact team, which I think you heard from a couple of months ago regarding particularly Lanyon park, but they’ve done some work and experimentation on what types of things worked in order to keep our park safe and welcoming. The desired outcome of the changes that we’re going to propose tonight is to enhance the health and safety and welfare of all the park users. These changes will provide clarity not only for our public safety partners, but also for the community really helped with enforcement and sustained the efforts that the neighborhood impact team have tried on Lanyon and now carparks. So we’re talking about three changes tonight. And you can choose some of them, none of them, give them give us other direction. It’s up to you how you’d like to move forward tonight, or you can pass the ordinance as it sits. The changes are include the camping definition, shelters and park hours, as you’ve heard from public invited to be heard. This is not an issue of one group of bad actors or people who are for example, experiencing homelessness. This is a situation where we have seen a variety of things happening in the parks. And so after doing a little of experimentation, we’re finding that these three changes, we believe would help Park wide. So with that, I’d like to go through a little bit of the process. And I’d like to turn it over to Carmen. Palacios Ramirez to start with that.
Unknown Speaker 1:08:54
Good evening, mayor and council. We’re going to share this presentation, but we will make it quick so you can see everybody that’s been working on this. So as you recall, we came in February and we talked a little bit about the neighborhood impact team and a process. At that time really what we wanted to do was begin our focus on what we had already started are focused on two neighborhood parks, Lanyon and car and this was coming from the community. So this was coming from the neighbors where Lanyon Park had become the broken window of that neighborhood they had abandoned it, and to regain the trust has taken not only a lot of work, but I don’t think we have that trust as of yet. This is what we heard from the neighbors and this is what we saw as staff also park staff. Park rangers, also our public safety staff and other folks that work in the area. That this we wanted to really work on making public spaces that the public spaces I’m sorry, we’re not welcoming and safe for residents and visitors. Little League team Those are softball teams had refused to play at the field there because they did not feel safe. So that’s still a question at this point, the alcohol and drug use and littering in the park area, especially folks leaving belongings behind that they no longer had to use for the monopolists, monopolization of the park shelter, excuse me on that one. But they were occupying the shelters for all day long. Literally, folks were encircling the shelters with shopping carts or tarps. And they were there all day long. It was not a matter of a couple hours, it was not a matter of three hours. So what we saw was a decreased resident activity and recreational use, people were refusing to hold activities there, they were refusing to rent the shelters because of the reputation of the park. And as I said, we’ve got other team members. So I’m gonna have David Kennedy, Officer David Kennedy, talk a little bit about service calls and other data.
Unknown Speaker 1:11:07
Between Mayor council members, David Kennedy, Longmont, public safety don’t see the slide up there yet. I’m just waiting for that to
Unknown Speaker 1:11:23
I’m sorry, here we go. I councilmembers. What you’re looking at here is just a breakdown of the total calls for service beginning in March of 2021. And extending through April 2022. So these are total calls for service month by month. So just to break down that a little more for you. What that means is that, in total, there were 571 calls for service. And that includes every police activity. Of that 571 341 calls for service were extra patrols. In other words, these are proactive efforts by police to get out of their cars and spend time in the park. And this is at all different times of the day. So this is not just after Parker a few hours, this is at any time of the day. In 2021, there were a total of 48, part curfew violations. By 2022, that number dropped to four. In 2021, there were 20 Trespassing violations. Once again in 2022. That number broke down to four. There were just a few other data points to mention of note where there were 11 Total warrant arrests at the park during that one year period. And all the other call data is pretty small as far as there’s 35 different other call types that are included in that 571. None of which really ranged over just one, two or three calls for service regarding each data point.
Unknown Speaker 1:13:05
Does anybody have any questions regarding the data you’re looking at? Okay, thank you. I’ll turn it over to Sarah Arnie.
Unknown Speaker 1:13:16
Good evening, Mayor pack and council members. Sir Ernie, Master police officer Neighborhood Resource Officer is my title. We’ve been working on this project for several months. And I wanted to go through the neighborhood impact team and what we found. While back, we gave you a presentation on what the neighborhood impact team consists of and the efforts that we have gone toward in the projects that we have been assigned with. So what we’ve identified in Landon is in what we’ve wanted to do is decrease the number of enhanced folks living on the streets and provide opportunities to access services and housing, and then decreasing opportunity for anyone to behave badly in our parks. And that’s where our extra patrols really, were able to step up and and make that difference. Working in collaborations with agency partners to connect and engage unhoused people into the programs. We worked very, I say very closely. We had weekly meetings with L there and lead and hope when they were needed, and especially hope sustaining a balance of intervention, service and compliance that supports welcoming and safe public spaces. So you know, you’ve heard this, talking about bringing bringing activities to the park. We want to bring these activities to the park but we’ve heard so many times that people aren’t feeling safe in the park so they’re not going to come so we could we could bring all these activities but ultimately in the end we’re not going to have any participation if we don’t have that safe feeling. Sustaining a communication plan and informs neighbors businesses, community partners and homeless Have intervention resources and compliance efforts. We’ve done that in many ways. I would say, we have separate emails and phone lines for each of these neighborhoods to reach out to us. And we can check these. And we do. We’re getting a lot of feedback even even to this day. Our resource fair, there’s several folks that came out that were very appreciative that and I know the few of you that were there, met a few of the people that talk to us all the time. One thing I didn’t want to say too about the stats is that we get a weekly Park data or calls for service. And it ebbs and flows just like anything in our city. But I would say Lanyon, Park has been our number one calls for service for some time now. And you have to also consider that that number is high, because we’re doing these extra patrols, right. So that’s why that number is so high. So that’s, that’s not a bad thing. I just wanted to point that out to you. I’ll turn it over to David. Thank you. Sorry,
Unknown Speaker 1:16:05
Carmen intermedius, mayor and council. So real quickly, we just wanted to mention that Lenin and car park curfew hours were changed temporarily, a few months ago. And neighbors at both parks have expressed appreciation and a better sense of safety. Because of the change in their curfew hours specifically, we haven’t even talked about the other two proposed changes. And then also on the proposed amendment changes, it’ll help us to address and sustain the efforts that we’re doing not only at Lanyon and car, but we also know that there’s a tendency for some of these issues, vandalism, graffiti, and other of the behaviors that happen, they’ve moved, you’ve heard it over the years, you’ve heard it at different parks, we focus on one park, what’s going to happen, it moves to another park. So that’s another reason that you might want to consider and the efforts to sustain it is unfortunately, this is where we’re at, to try and provide better clarity, consistency, so that we can enforce but as you’ve heard, we also work on compassionate compliance. You heard from a gentleman from change the future, Anthony Kareo, I went out there on a Sunday to meet him and the group that feed folks and provide him with flyers. Regarding resources, the response at that time was I didn’t know all these things were available. So I’m doing that constantly, whether it’s the neighbors or a community member that would like to help, I’m trying to say, Hey, this is where we have resources, join those folks. And let’s expand their capacity. So I just wanted to share that also, David’s gonna go through the proposed amendments.
Unknown Speaker 1:17:52
Good evening mirroring council members. You all have received the three ordinances you’ve heard about a little bit this evening, but I want to take a little time to talk about how we got to the one to the thought process to come up with in crafting the language, it really ended up with these these specific ordinances. As Carmen mentioned, this started out as a change to landing a carpark which can come through rules and regulations, the director can make those changes in hours just by posting that so those are both done just through an administrative process through the request coming to the director than me making the approval to make those temporary changes. As we look at the input from Council and neighborhood impact team to make this a broader rules and regs change across all our parks, we want to make sure we came to council with that sort of background that we’ve seen it work at at thing and we’ve seen it work at car and give the opportunity for us to kind of bring a a ordinance through the dresses, all the the parks. As we went through the camping definition, we already have a definition that you cannot ordinances says you cannot camp in our parks unless it’s a an area that is already designated for camping right now we have no designated camping areas that was Union at one point. So there really is no place that allows camping. This new definition really allows us to define what camping is. So as you read through this use several elements that really define what camping it is it really is those more than two hours is having something that provides shelter recover for more than two hours. And it’s those activities of daily living that go along with it. So there are elements that go along with that. We also looked at how we would manage some of the sporting activities out at sassower ranch we talked about having tasks because we don’t treat everyone the same. If you’re under tennis more than two hours, we’re going to have the ability to have an officer stopped by and talked about while you’re there and what you’re doing. But if you’re a sandstone or recreation division leases, those areas modulus sporting activities, they would fall under the definition of the lease or the terms of the lease. We also know that we have a couple of parks in our system that people can be out with Probably less clothing and other ones, Dickens Park and Macintosh where they’re out on the water and probably enjoying the sunshine and want people to have the ability to have some sort of shade structure. So this definition allows for us to post certain parks to allow for shade structures longer than that two hour period. And that can be posted. And again, we’ll probably start with those two areas, we know people have the ability to have more sun exposure, why give them the opportunity to protect themselves from that. So that’s what we’re gonna end up with the camping definition. I could do these one at a time. If you have questions about a specific one. I’ll just go through all three of them. Alright, I’ll keep I’ll keep going.
Unknown Speaker 1:20:40
I do have one question. Yes. The two hour limit. Does this also apply to people who reserve a shelter? For a picnic? I’m sorry for a birthday party or whatever. Mayor,
Unknown Speaker 1:20:53
council members that is also excluded if you have if you have the the reservation for the shelter goes not to see that. And I think that is is a little vague. And here’s the pieces you read of the L LMC 1327. D, which is our shelter reservation. Okay, thank you. So we tried to look at all those. Again, I think that that background is trying to talk through these as a group on what we can do to make it usable for the people are trying to do those proper activities and things we want to see the park the activities went to the park, the birthday parties, we want to see the park.
Unknown Speaker 1:21:21
So Councillor Hidalgo fairing also has a question.
Unknown Speaker 1:21:25
Thank you, Mayor. I have a follow up question to that. So you know, you had said that people could reserve those spaces for a longer period of time. You know, I guess for the public general public, is there a fee? How How is the process, you know, going online, you know, if you can kind of define for the public what that process looks like, so they know where and how to extend those hours.
Unknown Speaker 1:21:49
Yeah, Mayor, and Councilmember Hidalgo fairing. There is a process and you can go online, you can check and reserve the the shelters, that can be some people don’t have the computer skills, they don’t have the computer, they don’t have their phone right there. So we also have phone number that people can call in, I’ll get the phone call, sometimes we’ll go to recreation, sometimes we really tried to walk them through that process to make it as easy as possible. So people that have the the ability to just log on and do it, it’s pretty easy process. If you need some help, there’s always gonna be a person that was willing to help you out. So the piece I don’t have for you this evening is I don’t know the price on the shelter’s right now. But we can make sure we get back to you. But the website, we’ll have that as you go to that.
Unknown Speaker 1:22:29
Looks like you can continue. Alright.
Unknown Speaker 1:22:33
The next one would be the shelter reservations. And that this is something again, as we talked about these ordinances affecting just a certain group of people, one of the things that as we have been dealing with shelters and shelter reservations, when we get a group of 15, people that just show up or 20 people that show up, that has an impact on the parks and operations staff because there’s trash, especially with that the next group that comes in, doesn’t have a clean shelter. So the more we have knowledge of large groups coming into the system, that better chance we have to set that up, make sure trash is empty before they get there, and then have trash emptied afterwards. So there really is an operational piece of benefits parks operations by having the 15 or more people giving a reservation, the two hours again, as I think there’s that ability to that first come first serve, which is always nice, but so it takes that that shelter for the whole day, and makes it hard for those people that want to come in and and use it after their advantage for sort of, for a short amount of time. So I think those really again, address a lot of broader issues that we’ve seen in our shelters and how we have more equitable use throughout the shelters, and also give park operations a chance to really manage those shelters better.
Unknown Speaker 1:23:44
And then, the last one, which I think you heard the most about this evening is going to be the park hours. And as we looked at this was a combination of conversations between recreation and programming Park use neighbors that live close to the park Billy to move through parks, using facilities with in the parks and how we came to that, that ability to do that. And what we really did is said we want people to use those facilities that were meant to be used the way we’re so if we have lighting facilities within a park, that use can still continue until 10 o’clock at night. It was 11 o’clock so we do have that change. And if there’s questions on sort of the patrol pieces that came into that support officer could probably touch that a little more, but that one hour seems to really make a difference as they’re out patrolling the parks. So you can be in the park using those lighter facilities. If you’re over your friends or neighbors house you’re walking back through again our parks trails and greenways are open for continual movement through the park so you have access to the park if it’s out through the walk to walk your dog or moving through is fine as use of facilities it’s going to be essential activities as well. We went with one hour before sunrise one hour after sunset for a couple of reasons. We had been using dusk and dawn that would have given us three different sets of hours we would have had the the community parks which are five Am 211 We would have had our nature areas which are one hour before sunrise to one hour after sunset. And then our neighborhood parks would be dusk to dawn, it was like those times are very close together. And it makes it easier for I think our community and our officers to recognize we just have two sets of rules and regs as far as ours, we have the community parks, and then we have the neighborhood parks and nature areas are going to be the one hour before sunrise and one hour after sunset. And I end up with the questions as well. We’re all here though.
Unknown Speaker 1:25:38
Thank you, Mayor Peck. And David and and everybody. My questions may bounce around a little bit, I would at first like to address the good points that were made by the public this evening. Having been following this effort, since let July 21 of last year is that the official kickoff date. What I have found is that this is a process. And I have things that I would have changed about the process. I would like to state an objective for future processes at some point this evening if I get the chance. But it is a process that was developed through a long period of effort. And I believe that we should respect the process and respect the numbers and the outcomes that this what I would call a tiger team out of the private sector came up came up with and while we might want to relax these, these this ordinance in the future, when we’ve got a better handle on how our indigent population and our permanent residents interact with one another than we can do that. But I think for right now, we ought to respect the findings of the team, as as they’ve come up with them, because I’m sure that they have balanced these figures in terms of what is controllable, what is enforceable, and what the neighborhood’s most at risk, how they feel about it. And what David made the point, which I didn’t know is that if you’re walking your dog, or you’re going home, you can still walk through the park after it’s closed, which makes a big difference because the only people I know who care about real late night stuff are the people walking their dogs. And I also know how having an intimate relationship with Lanyon Park and the late night users of Lanyon that there is vandalism Atlantean there are people sleeping all night in that park. And so all this stuff still applies. It just doesn’t happen to be as visible. Okay. Mayor, how much time
Unknown Speaker 1:28:13
do I have? Two minutes?
Unknown Speaker 1:28:15
Okay, seconds. I have some questions, and I can read them in a minute. But I can’t do a defense and get the answers. So what I’d like to do is read my questions, and then give you the list and you can answer them. How many incidents of violence violence involving unhoused persons in Lanyon Park were reported since July 2021. How many such incidents were pre were reported the prior year, who’s reporting the incidents neighborhood residents passers by patrol officers at cetera? How many incidents of non violent infractions using of using alcohol needles or verbal constant confrontations or inappropriate behavior? Who reported the incidents? How many incidents of curfew violations such as council cancel camping overnight, sleeping in restrooms or shelters? How often were apparently abandoned belongings including clothing, bed rolls and trash picked up by city staff. And how often were shopping carts confiscated by patrolling officers. And if somebody wants to have the list, I’ve got a copy of it. And I’ll I’ll use those questions in my next time at bat.
Unknown Speaker 1:29:46
I’m counselor Martin. Steph can answer those questions there. They’re not on a timer.
Unknown Speaker 1:29:53
I’ve never been sure whether the timer stops when the timer stops and starts again. So I thought I’d make sure
Unknown Speaker 1:29:59
to break I think we can get close on many of these bullets bring up a little sheet for you. We have a lot of this data. But part of the issue is that it’s really tiny. Tiny. Yeah. So let me bring it up on the screen. It’s pretty tiny. But let me go ahead and bring it up while we’re talking here. And I’m
Unknown Speaker 1:30:24
only asking for an approximation because I know my questions aren’t going to be the same as your spreadsheet. Because
Unknown Speaker 1:30:29
we don’t have I don’t believe we have a coding for shopping carts and stuff like this in this particular sheet. Right. So let me pull it up. And let’s take a look and see what we’ve got here. If it would be okay, maybe just a two minute break while I bring it up. Okay, that’s perfect. Yeah, thank you.
Unknown Speaker 1:30:46
So we’re going to take a two minute break.
Unknown Speaker 1:30:48
Unless there’s other data that people are interested in that we could look up during this break as well.
Unknown Speaker 1:30:54
Is anyone else interested in having a question answered at this council yard
Unknown Speaker 1:30:59
regarding the data not the policies regarding the data? Nope. Okay, we’re good. All right. We’ll work on it while you take a break.
Unknown Speaker 1:31:18
Sleep Yeah, right. Do your 20 years of teaching how to teach. Third graders tomorrow Twilight? Okay, we’re ready for your presentation. So what we do have in front of you here, and we’re going to get some copies made or the types of violations that have happened, particularly in Landon park over the last two years, I’m gonna show you in two ways, this is the type the call type so that you have an idea of what the call type is. And as I said, we’re gonna get some copies for you because it’s really tiny. And then we also have kind of a timeframe being able to look and see what it looks like over time. So things like violent crimes, you know, you’re talking about disturbances and assaults and things like that. What we don’t have available tonight that we could get for you if the council directs is who reported it and who and who it includes. So we have the numbers on on how many and we have them broken out between 2020 I mean, yeah, 2021 and 2022. What we don’t have at our fingertips is who reported it? And was there somebody who was homeless that was involved. So if the council directs us to do that, we can certainly provide that information and bring it back. So I’ll go ahead and pass those out. So I’m gonna turn it back over to
Unknown Speaker 1:38:53
Officer Onida. Yes, yes.
Unknown Speaker 1:38:59
So just to council, sorry, Mayor packing Council. To reiterate what assistant city manager, Sandy cedar was talking about, as far as number five reporting these incidents. So people have the ability to call and remain anonymous, that’s going to be an option. Our residents can leave their name, and or it’s an officer that’s going by and seeing activity, and that’s how, generally, we get our reports.
Unknown Speaker 1:39:30
And we can get that data, but it’s gonna take a bit deeper dive into each call for service, we’re probably gonna have our crime analyst actually look at each call and make that determination who the caller was, whether it was in or, you know, a passerby, that kind of stuff. So, which we can do if that’s what counsel would like. Yes,
Unknown Speaker 1:39:53
and just so you know, as well, we’ve been tracking. I’ve been tracking a lot of this stata on my own on our team’s app. So other city staff has access to view it. And we also have parks uploading their activity. As far as staff seeing issues, they’re posting pictures of damage and vandalism. So anyone can view that has access to teams. And so I can pull that data as well from what I’m collecting and our CAD system. So we’re, we’re really trying to stay on top of it. As far as the data piece goes,
Unknown Speaker 1:40:32
officer on a, would you rather we hold our questions to the end of everything? Or do you want each doesn’t matter to you does not matter? Okay. Councillor Martin?
Unknown Speaker 1:40:49
Thank you, I just wanted to say, I don’t want to make this much work, I am really interested in, of course, somebody else could be interested in more, but I’m only interested in things that are dangerous. Okay, so a sex assault and assault shots heard. Because I’m going someplace since in particular with this, and I, you know, an auto theft isn’t going to be applicable criminal, an injured animal isn’t going to be applicable. Because what we’re looking at is, is what creates a dangerous situation. So you probably know the codes better than I do. But that’s the only part I’m really interested in. And thanks, by the way, this was quick work getting all
Unknown Speaker 1:41:43
this Sure. One thing too, I wanted to point out. So you know, if you look at it, this handout we provided, it basically starts out with the number one calls for service. And that would be the extra patrols. But if you go down, the curfews the second most call, you know, highest call for service than trespassing. And then just if you do see the disturbances, so that that basically can be the root cause of a lot of other issues, right? Like we get a disturbance call, and then we find narcotics or someone that has a dangerous weapon, etc. So that just ranks how many like where we were, and as far as the types of calls we were getting.
Unknown Speaker 1:42:31
So yeah, what it does is just kind of give you that general picture, like Sarah says, Sometimes things start off as one thing and really turn out to be something completely different. So once again, it kind of that deeper dive, you know, let’s use the sexual assault that’s in 2021, for example, that’s a serious crime, a very concerning crime to the community. So we need to look at the details of that case, and really find out is that something that’s related to this discussion that we’re having today?
Unknown Speaker 1:42:56
And as far as you would ask, how often are we collecting abandoned belongings, including clothing, bedrooms, etc. park staff has have been giving me the information. So I’ve like I just mentioned, I’m keeping track of that. But I can tell you, and I’m sure David could speak to that. It’s daily, it is taking a lot of their time, and efforts to keep to keep this the parks clean. And the shopping carts, I’m tracking those as well. How they’re being confiscated by officers is it’s really on an ebb and flow and time basis on calls for service. We have gone into patrol briefings, they’re all educated on the process and how we’re doing that. And to be quite honest, we don’t have all the time to do that. It’s definitely been an effort that we’re trying to keep up on and other other city staff are helping us do that.
Unknown Speaker 1:43:58
Yeah, I would just I would just add that officer Arne has been sending out emails to all city staff recently saying he found a shopping cart. No one helped us get it back to its rightful owner. Mara did a little bit of quick math on those that were the violent crimes that we were just talking about in 2021. That would equal 47. And of course, you have to understand that 2022 Hasn’t happened through 2020 yet, but 47 and 2021 and eight and 2022 That’s the things you unidentified councilmember. Does that help you get what else would you like to know that we haven’t been able to provide you tonight?
Unknown Speaker 1:44:35
You know what, I’m going to make a proposal on the second round, and you can maybe infer
Unknown Speaker 1:44:43
what else I might
Unknown Speaker 1:44:48
you might be interested in.
Unknown Speaker 1:44:54
Come to Yarbro you had your light on before with this presentation. Do you still want to speak
Unknown Speaker 1:45:01
Okay. Thank you for all you do. I just want to bring up, you know, we had a lot of, you know, public to be heard about this. And, and I know this we have you all have started this last year before I was on council. And for some reason, it just seemed to me that there was some type of there was a lack of communication as to why the community didn’t know that we were having these discussions about the parks. I know in February, I was on council and we were talking about it. So is there a gap that you feel like, I know, people in the Lincoln Park area and car park area have complain? And, and I know our neighborhood team, you all have done a wonderful job? You know, with that information, but is there something we’re missing as to why the community feel like they’re not being heard or feel like, this is like a last minute decision on city council part or the city part? Because we’ve been talking about this for a long time. So I guess I’m just wondering, where are we missing? You know, the, the miscommunication to the public? And why do they feel like their voices are not being heard? Or this was like a last minute situation? I don’t I don’t know. So I’m a little confused about that. And maybe you don’t even have an answer, I don’t know. But I’m a little confused. Because I know in February, we was talking about it. Before we even came back to this, this point. And also, if one of you or both of you all of you can just mention as to why it’s important that we are consistent across the board with all the parks, if you can mention that, I would appreciate that as well.
Unknown Speaker 1:47:03
Councilmember Yarborough? Let me take a shot at the first one, and then maybe I can get some help on the second one. So I think that traditionally, we do a lot of community involvement around things that we’re either going to be doing to improve parks or we’re going to be improving community. In this particular case, I think it was pretty serious and pretty severe and very quick. Maybe not quick, and what’s happening, but certainly our response, we were trying to be very quick in that response. So it’s a very fine line between what is the right role of the community and that involvement, and what is the operational decision that the city needs to make to be able to take care of an issue that’s coming up in a neighborhood. And so this one probably fell more on the operational decision making side than it did the community involvement side. But I can see why people would feel that way. Because generally, we do have very robust community involvement, decision making. And so in this case, I think really reacting to a situation that we had to in order to provide safety for a neighborhood. So I’m sure it feels that way to the community that they weren’t really included in the decision making. And I would say, to some extent, that’s very true. Because we’re really reacting to something that’s happening in the community. And I would say it’s not just landing in car, I do think there are other parks where we have received similar types of calls. And so it’s a tough line, because we want to involve the community when their voice is going to make a difference. And so in this case, if we’re really going to be looking as an operational decision, it’s a tough line. So there’s, there’s my answer to number one. Your second question was about why it’s important for it to be consistent. So I’m wondering if maybe Carmen or Sarah could answer that. Turn your microphone on. There you go.
Unknown Speaker 1:48:43
Okay, Mayor Peck and council person Yarborough. So one of the things that is really important in order for us to be able to keep this operational is sustaining it and consistency. As you heard earlier, we if we have rules for the greenways, and we have rules for this park, but different for this park, then there’s that issue of all of public safety park rangers and other staffs understanding those different rules as well as the community. So this helps across the board, just like currently, curfew for youth, it’s across the city, whether they’re in a park or they’re on the street, there’s a particular curfew, so that consistency and that ability to sustain the efforts. And then as I mentioned earlier, I have been at meetings on athletic field, where we had over 100 neighbors when the issue was happening, that athletic field, the Kitely neighborhood. We have been at meetings with Roosevelt park when there was probably at least close to 100 people as the officers are nodding their head and they remember when the neighbors were really feeling the same thing that the Lanyon parking Neighbors felt. I believe that in Lanyon Park, we have a lot more multi housing rentals. Sara actually has 10 properties that are part of crime free, multi housing, and we’ve done that outreach. So it hasn’t been to just a couple of blocks around that area. So as Sandy said, because it’s operational, and because we looked at those most impacted by the activity, we did that outreach for car park, we sent out over 300 letters, informing them or the curfew change. I got two calls. And both said, Thank you, thank you, thank you. And then explained that they had had some thefts. And they believe that it was people that were hanging out in the parks late at night. So there’s some activity there that they said we addressed it. So I hope that helps answer that question. Councillor Yarborough? Thank you.
Unknown Speaker 1:50:56
Can I add a little bit to that? Thank you, Mayor Peck and Councilman Yarborough. I really think you talk about consistency in in, in our parks and around our community. And what we, from the start of this public safety knew what we already knew what we were going to have to chase. And that was going to focus focusing on land and parks so much. We knew they were going to go to the next park or to North Main. So we really focused our efforts not just on Lanyon, but the north corridor and carpark so we have information on all of that. And we have since the beginning, because we knew we were going to have those issues, and consistency through for all parks for the same rules makes, it makes it much easier for us to do any type of enforcement at all. And, you know, it might seem really, I guess, elementary, but sometimes when when we’re going to say a felony menacing. And all of a sudden, you know, we need to remember these like small things, the small things we don’t always get to remember. And if it’s confusing, it’s like the just the next thing that we have to think about right. Mayor Peck you had mentioned a little bit earlier about how this is an we’d spoken this is not a black and white issue as far as you’re in the park sitting on a bench and you’re there for five minutes. And if a police officer drives by, we’re going to stop and maybe talk to you and you could the person just says, Oh, we’re just here, we’re getting ready to leave. I don’t believe we’re going to get these these issues, we’re we’re also going to be able to filter the problem with with this, and these these ordinance changes, it’s not going to be that we cannot effectively do our jobs without. And I’m kind of getting lost here. Sorry. What I’m trying to say is that it’s not so black and white. And it leaves that gray area for us to decipher what we need to do during the editor.
Unknown Speaker 1:53:14
And after I know you’re talking about specifically enforcement, of course. So for example, if the council did decide that they’d like to pass this ordinance as it’s laid out today, the enforcement isn’t black and white, the minute you see somebody in a park, at one minute past one hour past dusk, it’s not correct. No, it’s it really is dependent on the situation and what they’re finding, and what kinds of patterns they’re seeing. So I think that’s important to note, too. As David mentioned before, if you’re walking your dog through the park, that’s not part of it, for example. Yeah. Does that answer your question about enforcement there?
Unknown Speaker 1:53:47
It does, I understand that. Like you said, it’s not black and white. And until we are actually into the process, it’s going to be very difficult to understand who is going to want to use that want to stay in there after 10 o’clock when it goes, enforcing is difficult. It’s not, it’s not something you can just have a draw line. And that’s it.
Unknown Speaker 1:54:13
So and that’s the case, all the time. For our public safety officers. That’s the that’s the case all the time. You know, a couple of other things that I just want to mention is the partnerships around people who are unhoused. So I think that that’s kind of been the focus of the conversation. But again, I would note that that’s not every every situation we’re finding in the parks is not due to somebody who is in house, we have all kinds of people that are in the parks that are doing all kinds of things that may not be legal. But when we are finding people who are unhoused, the first step is to try to find assistance, right? Because otherwise we’re just moving people along just as the public spoke about in public invited to be heard. So those partnerships are critical in trying to get people into a situation where they are able to be housed and that’s that’s the first step the Before we continue to move on down that continuum
Unknown Speaker 1:55:03
Do we have any other discussion from other counselors? So Does somebody want to make a motion here? We have three options on this presentation.
Unknown Speaker 1:55:18
Or however council would like to proceed. We’re suggesting three ordinance changes in the ordinances below. You can either pass the ordinance as if this was a first reading could ask for more information, you could pass pieces of it or give us different direction.
Unknown Speaker 1:55:33
Let’s see. Councillor Mon. Oops, I’m sorry. Try again.
Unknown Speaker 1:55:41
Thank you, Mayor Peck. I would like to give additional direction, but just get it out of the way. Let’s discuss the three proposed ordinances and I would like to propose or move that we let them be taken forward as they are proposed.
Unknown Speaker 1:56:05
Okay, so it has been Moved by Councillor Martin seconded by Councillor waters that we accept the amendments as proposed. We open for discussion on this motion. Okay. So, motion has been made. Let’s vote on that motion. So that carries unanimously. So I guess we’ve accepted it as proposed.
Unknown Speaker 1:56:51
I do need to check in with Eugene. Does that mean that the ordinance has passed first reading and up for second at this point? That’s kind of what I’m hearing. That’s the intention. Yes. Okay. Thank you. Okay, Mayor.
Unknown Speaker 1:57:03
Thank you. So we’re final call public money to be heard? No, we’re not one more item. Where are we? Oh, baby.
Unknown Speaker 1:57:16
I wanted to propose additional direction that we’re on. I just wanted to get that.
Unknown Speaker 1:57:26
Okay. So Councillor Martin.
Unknown Speaker 1:57:31
What I have not heard in all of this effort, and I do like where it ended up. Is is kind of an overarching principle. And I think that we have got to, one is we need to reduce the friction between the House and the unhoused population. And maybe that’s so high level that everybody just assumed that that’s what it was, you know, but I’d like to articulate that. And then the other thing is, that I think we have to provide a basic level of human dignity. You know, we say that we are a housing first community when it comes to dealing with unhoused persons. But in fact, we don’t have the wherewithal to be really Housing First. And, to a great extent, people are congregating around the park, restrooms and shelters because it’s the only unsupervised on policed shelters that we have. And I have just this last week, seeing what can be done with one of those shelters at airfilter. Park. It’s what I would call hardened. And what y’all would call scripted or Crime Prevention Through Environmental Design. It’s hard to vandalize when somebody’s using it, other people are locked out so you can’t get ambushed while you’re using the restroom. If somebody stays in there too long, or shoots up and dies, or whatever, and alarm goes off, and those things make places like that safer. I think everybody ought to have a place to use the bathroom and get water all year around. And I think that everybody, even if they don’t fit into any of our housing programs, should be able to have clean water a shower and be able to wash their clothes, and milspec solutions for all of those facilities exist. And I think that we should budget for them. And I think we should put them someplace that is not in the park. And I think that that facility should include lockers and maybe post office boxes, and that would draw the homeless population away from the park and have them using a facility that was built specifically to give them the basics of human decency as we define it in the 21st century. And so that’s the additional direction that I would propose. Is that in this coming budget season, that the staff investigate creating an indigent services facility.
Unknown Speaker 2:00:26
Perfect timing. Yeah,
Unknown Speaker 2:00:27
yes. Okay, sorry. I
Unknown Speaker 2:00:31
just want to make sure I caught it. So in 2023 budget investigate an indigent service
Unknown Speaker 2:00:37
facility. And the reason I was asking all the questions about crimes was because the objection that I’ve heard is that such a facility would not be police Hubble. I think it would,
Unknown Speaker 2:00:51
Tim Waters 2:00:57
mic on. Thank you. So our first we have our first budget presentation next week, right? And I know that’s gonna be the highest kind of overview. I’d see Jim in the back. We’re not going to be looking at specific programs, but we will over the course of the summer. So this direction gets taken up in the context of I would assume one of those maybe, if not public safety, community services, or one of those budget presentations where she has to talk about this. Specifically.
Unknown Speaker 2:01:27
Mayor Pat, Councilmember water Yes, next week is a couple of things. One of those is included the budget, the you know, the beginning budget conversations where you all are able to share some of your budget priorities for the next year. Yeah,
Tim Waters 2:01:38
very good. And I think it’s good. The related piece to that is, if I think as I’m as I’m listening to Councilmember Martin thinking about what we received, and in what and what work we did you all did the heavy lifting with ARPA funds. There was a million and a half dollar line, as I recall. And that could go up or down based on what happens with ARPA funding for other projects, specifically dedicated to to something akin to what I just heard, is that not as true. So so we will get a chance not only to talk about what the budget probably how the budget reflects priorities for parks, but in addition to that, more detail or specifics on what that million and a half dollars would be used for. And how close it comes to what we just heard as concerns from councilmember Martin.
Unknown Speaker 2:02:28
Yes, at this time that ARPA funding is just earmarked for unhoused assistance, and I don’t believe that there is a plan for it yet.
Tim Waters 2:02:35
But all right, thanks.
Unknown Speaker 2:02:39
Good comments. So now we are at the Parks and Rec advisory board motion regarding future recreation facilities. And we have Jeff freezer.
Tim Waters 2:03:00
Thank you, Mayor and council members, Jeffrey’s no recreation and golf manager, I will be very brief. Want to thank you for your consideration this evening of the Parks and Rec advisory boards. Motion from February 16, asking you all to consider a public process financial analysis and conceptual design of future recreation facilities. With that I will answer any questions you might have.
Unknown Speaker 2:03:31
Do we have any questions from councillors? Councillor waters?
Tim Waters 2:03:36
Thank you. We’re not questions really for Jeff, do you is this I’m just kind of curious what you would like. Would you like a motion that we accept this? I know we all we did it initially was agreed to put it on the agenda.
Unknown Speaker 2:03:49
And I think you’re correct. We need to put it on the agenda. But we might put it on a gender specific, a Date Specific if we’re going to be talking about budgets. So I guess that’s up to you if you want to make a motion to do that to a future agenda. What
Tim Waters 2:04:13
I just what’s the most productive? So I would I that I’m gonna move we formally accept. We accept that. We agreed to put this on the agenda. I’m gonna move we formally accept the recommendation. And then to be scheduled would be the follow up discussion about dimension scope, timing. The schedule for a feasibility study what that might look like I last night, the prep meeting, there was a chance to get a little bit of an advanced look at what the capital improvement budget includes. There’ll be a line there’s a project code. I remember what you hear way more than we’re going to spend in 2023. But it’s but it’ll be in the queue for for discussion.
Unknown Speaker 2:04:57
Tonight or at the
Tim Waters 2:05:00
Look at the agenda where it’s at. No, I’m talking about when it comes up. Absolutely. Yes. So the motion then is that we formally accept the recommendation or the statement from the President. And in continued the discussion when we get into capital improvement budget, and and moving forward, what that might look like
Unknown Speaker 2:05:18
I’ll second fact. So it’s been Moved by Councillor waters and seconded by myself to move to accept the crabs discussion about moving this recreation facility discussion to a future agenda. Let’s vote. That passes unanimously. Thanks a lot, Joe. Thank you. Exciting. So Council waters. Did you have your handover? Okay. Oh. Okay. Don’t move quickly. That’s right. So now we’re finally at the final public invited to be heard. I only see two members of the public here. Would you like to say something? No. Okay. Thank you, Mayor and council comments. Do we have any discussion or comments from councillors Seeing none? I do. Councillor Hidalgo ferry.
Unknown Speaker 2:06:28
So I’m looking forward to the city employee breakfast. This Thursday. I was looking at my calendars. I know that there’s other stuff coming up and then the memorial for fallen officers Thursday at well, as well. So yeah, I’m looking forward to that. And thank you for the invites. And and these are open while the same breakfast employee breakfast is not open to the public. But the other. The other is and it is at
Unknown Speaker 2:06:56
430 on Thursday, right here on the Civic Center Mall. Perfect. Yes. Thank you. Great if you can join us. Yes.
Unknown Speaker 2:07:04
I’m counselor. I’m sorry, Martin.
Unknown Speaker 2:07:14
Thank you, Mayor Peck. I just am taking this opportunity to ask for clarification because I offered some additional direction for staff and I thought I had framed it as a motion but nothing happened.
Unknown Speaker 2:07:35
I didn’t hear a motion.
Unknown Speaker 2:07:36
I said I would propose is that not count as a motion that really looks so happy. No, I’m not happy. Okay, well, I’ll put it on a future agenda then.
Unknown Speaker 2:07:49
Okay. Good idea. So, assistant city manager remarks.
Unknown Speaker 2:07:56
No other comments bear. Eugene
Unknown Speaker 2:07:59
Unknown Speaker 2:08:00
No comments, Mayor.
Unknown Speaker 2:08:02
Okay. So we need a motion to adjourn. I’ll second that. It’s been moved and seconded to adjourn. All those in favor? vote. Please vote. Yes. So that carries unanimously the meeting is adjourned. Thank you, everybody.
Unknown Speaker 2:08:22