Art in Public Places Commission Meeting – December 17, 2020

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All right, then let’s call the meeting to order. I think we are at quorum we are at. We have Francis, we have Cindy, we have Peter. We have Pam. We have Courtney, who was our intern who was our wonderful guest this evening. We have Aaron, Holly, Susan, the brilliant earring where Andrea, Nicole. And of course, Kim and another Pamela. Pam, you are signed in twice. Do you all know? Does everybody know that?

That’s because my computer doesn’t have a camera. So I have to do the telephone and the computer.


You know, I’ve been through this zoom thing with students all the time. So awesome. Thank you so much.

That’s why

now we’re just glad to be. So my understanding is we have a public to be heard Miss Angela. Okay, great. I mean, not great. But are there any additions or corrections of the November 19 2020 minutes? We will need a motion to approve.


I didn’t see any thing to correct. So Caroline, move, we approve the minutes as presented.

I said. All right. Great. Pamela. seconds. All. All in favor? Aye. Anyone opposed? All right, the minutes of November 19 are approved.

And Aaron,

you are awesome. you’re rocking it. Aaron. Aaron.

Yeah, you you’re gonna have a job forever. Alright, so I guess we’ll move right on to public additions to our agenda. Miss Angela.

Let me just ask you a question real quick, Ms. Courtney. We can add you into the this agenda right away. And you can present right away. Or we can put you down and you can watch some of I mean, of course, you’re welcome to stay as long as you want. And you can see some of the business and then present. Do you have a preference? I kind of

like to see what goes on. And then I’d like to present.

Awesome, Courtney,

you got it. So let’s stick. It’s going to be shifting. New Item is going to be eight is going to be in turn.

Okay, and I just have that downloadable thing. So will you catch me? If I mess up? Please? I will. Thank you friend. And then we’ll shift everything else down. Okay. Excellent. All right. So no other public invited to be heard. We’ll move on to our next mo shirt and next movement, which is Angela’s going to give us reports on the RSVP and art on the move.

So I’m just gonna be real brief here. The first one is the Boston bridge, which is very exciting. I did speak with a senior engineer, Alan burning. Some of you may have worked with him, Andrea, probably you previously with the main street 287 Bridge, he and I spoke actually at length, about the way that projects are developed the way that his department comes about the opportunities and the way that that coincides with Steve brands while are in parks. And he does parks construction, and where that overlap is. And then also the recommendations that have been made to us previously from the report from nine dot arts. And so I think that finally, believe it or not, some of these elements are starting to come together. So the Boston Street Bridge is that a 60% design. And so what that means is that the city is basically understanding the way that the bike trail will go through the way that the bridge will be constructed. And and of course, there’s a lot of back and forth, back and forth, back and forth and planning. But it’s it’s at that point where we have an opportunity to go up our chain to our superiors and say we’re interested in working with planning to develop this project. And then the senior engineer has given us a recommendation. Very briefly, he said that there’s about a 90 foot by 10 to 12 foot high area that could be conducive to entry. Integrated project, that could be a lot of different things, it would be visible from the street, but also very visible from the bike path. So next steps is really going to be my going back to my superiors saying that Alan and I had spoken, and have make them connect and just put it on their radar. And then they’ll basically give us the Okey doke to move forward. So start thinking maybe, if you have an opportunity to go and visit that space, over the holidays, that would be really helpful. And I’ll have more information soon. But the taskforce already exists, we can, of course, can augment it if we need to. But yeah, just know that it’s, it’s, it’s a go, we’re on timing for completion. I don’t know 2021 2022. But that it’s for certain. And Cindy, I also got a good contact for Army Corps of Engineers, who will be doing the survey. And so all of this kind of ties into the Isaac Walton thing as well. So lots more to come. Yeah, so if you can do that, that’d be great.

Thank you clarify this. This is a space that could be used in different ways, a lot of different ways, such as what murals why relief?

Yeah, I mean, we and I think that that’s where the Commission and the task force will really want to look at the opportunity, and then develop what we’re going to be writing the call for. Is it Barbara Lee, I don’t know if any of you have visited T Rex, when I when I was young T rex along I 25. There at Dartmouth, almost on the campus, they did bar relief in the panels of concrete, if you will, it was almost a repeat pattern like a textile. But it’s very dynamic. Something like that. A mosaic could be a possibility. Could be a mural could be you know,

I believe you said that I was going to graduate school when that happened to you.

So there’s there’s a lot of opportunity there. And that’s not to say that it’s the only option. It was the option that he said would be the most visible. It does not sound like pillars, similar to the Main Street Bridge is the is, is as an as much an option as some of the other things. But that’s that’s basically what we’re going to learn here in the next couple of months.

I would love the idea of Barbie because we don’t have anything quite like that here. There’s murals, lots of places, and they present their own sort of issues. But I think that would be a great option, wide variety in the kinds of things that we do.

And I just asked for clarification. When we say the Boston bridge project, are we talking about the bridge that is on the path? That is actually a little off of Boston or? right they’re off a sunset in Boston? They’re like a block along the river. Where are we talking folks? native roots? Okay, the bridge that goes on Boston over the over the creek river?

Yeah, it’s right next to like a lot of those breweries like left hand.

Yeah, yeah.

So the best way I can say it is yes, it definitely does not go. It’s that one spot in Boston, where it in fact, doesn’t go north south. It actually goes more east west. Does everybody talking about and from the from the one angle the daresay south and I will get images. But it would be very the if we were to do the piece on the 90 foot wall that Alan’s talking about, it would be really very visible from left hands. That like outside area, and that it’s

they call it like the garden? I don’t know.

Yeah. I don’t know what they call it. But it would be really visible from there. So again, these are preliminary conversations. I definitely will, we’ll get more information. But order of operations as they kind of develop the project they get at 60%. Then when it’s 90%. It goes back to staff and says any last comments, you know, if you have anything else to say, and then at 90% When it’s done, then it goes to bid. And so in between and that sweet spot is where We would develop our project, figure out if it’s integrated, see how our budget would augment or assist, or that will definitely find efficiencies similar to this sister city project. So some of those materials and contracting staff vendors and such, well, there’ll be overlap there. So by integrating the project rather than applying something later, you know that that’s where we really want to be rather, after it’s developed, you know, applying later.

So basically, our comment or a contribution has to be done by the time to hit 90%. So it’s there when it goes out for bids.

Ideally, apparently, the Main Street Bridge was not the case. And it was a very late project and their assistant city manager at that time said, Whoa, we have this huge bridge. It’s a massive opportunity. There’s lots of visibility, we need to do something. And so because it happens too late, that’s likely why some of those pillars and also see that as a pain in the rear, apparently. So but yes, starting starting earlier, we’ll be able to get in more ingrained with workflow.

Does anyone on the commission when all that nonsense, I mean, that stuff happened at 27? I think I might be the only one. Yeah, it was very challenging. Let’s just put it that way. Very challenging. And we did the best we could with what we had. It was it was a struggle. So see, that was our obstacle. And I think we handled it the best we could. But boy, it was a that was a kind of a heart wrenching project. So many of us are not satisfied. Many folks are not satisfied with it. But it is what it is. So we move

forward. Right? It’s a state highway, so that inevitably there were going to be issues with that. So yeah. But unlike what we’ll be dealing with, so anyways, that’s the long of the short of that. Yeah, more to come. Any. Any other questions?

All right. I think we’re moving right forward on too hard on the move.

I wish that I did have more of an update on timeline, but I really don’t. So I’m January, February, still to launch the call for entry. And I’m, you know, looking at what your comments were about the call for entry portal. And we’ll have to figure out again, it’s going to be springtime, by the time we’re voting. So whatever we develop, and however we do the call for entry, will most certainly be flexible enough that if there is an online portal vote versus a in person vote, it will be available for both. I wish that I said I had LDD a feedback of whether they’re going to contribute, but I don’t yet, but I imagine that they will. So January, I expect a lot more information and you’ve

done a great job with follow up on them. I thank you so much, Angela, because that’s not an easy area to go through.

Well, they’re killing it with the creative district and just being really available for a lot of creatives right now. And so that’s really good.

I have a lateral question about art on the move. 2020.


did we ever resolve the issue with the lighting on the whirling dervish?

No and she has not been back up but I imagine yet again, similar to the the Maureen, what is morally Maureen’s last name, Hartley, her hardy Hartley and where she kind of you and that’s really what this program is about, right. Like, artists investigating new media, or opportunity or technology. Yeah, they’re using batteries that they The sun is not going to in X amount of time per day, recharge that battery that she’s using.

I thought the problem was that there’s this the streetlight right there, the lighting right there. That’s ever lets the artwork think it’s night. So it never turns anything on.

Then it could be the same thing that that’s exactly what happened with the Maureen hardy thing. But it was odd because when we installed it, it worked.

Yeah, but I think that she was standing right there flipping the switch. Or they were. Oh,

that could be the case. Um, yeah, she’s

beautiful, even without the lit up inside.

Super cool. Great piece. Yeah.

No more on the move. We all good. Okay, so I keep flipping back and forth on screens. So we have our conservation and maintenance report, which Angela Is this where we want to talk about our discussion?

You want I have worked with a graphic artist to assist me in coming up with a plan for the how we’re going to attack the plaque situation. Eileen, who is not here tonight went through a lot of images we have at some cases that we think that there should be plaques for based upon Paul tiger, of course, his his comment and things that we’ve been talking about previously, that everything really needs a plaque plus the redesign with the city. So in looking back at the images, and there were very, very few, that there were images of a plaque with the artwork. So the thought is that if we can take 10 minutes right now, open up the spreadsheet, and basically do the old school way of sign up for maintenance. But then also with the goal of by next meeting, you know, and no pressure, but by next meeting, do you go and visit these pieces to do the maintenance report. But also, and more importantly, to check if there’s a plaque? Is it bronze? Is it sinteres interest of very fancy kind of heavy duty plastic? Or is there no plaque at all, because for the graphic designer and for myself to get moving on what this timetable will look like. We have to know the number of pieces that we’re talking about. So depending on how you’re all feeling, and you can give me a thumbs up thumbs down, we can either go through the spreadsheet, one at a time right now. And if there’s more than one person who would like to visit it, that’s totally fine. Or I can systematically send the maintenance sheet the spreadsheet to people, you can sign up for what you want. And then I’ll just like go through and send the updated version to somebody else and somebody else or open up a Google form. And everybody can just kind of go at it that way.

They Angela and I talked about today. This way, if we do it now, we will not have to do our maintenance reports in May. So it’s a really cool thing. Those of you who have participated I know Andrea has friends many of you have, so we can take care of that. Now. I know it’s a little chilly. But we’ll get everybody out of the house at the same time.

I’m fine,

Angela. Angela. Hello.


Do you have the reports that I gave last summer because I took pictures of plaques and all of those.

Yes. And I have those noted on?

There is one that has

sawston silver wood. Yeah, right. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. So I think that that I hate to say but I think that it’s true that the majority of these, in fact, do not have plaques. And the graphic designer and I talked about the best strategic way of going about this. And really, it’s kind of a tertiary approach, right? A plaque that has a short name, a plaque that has a long name, and a plaque that has a super long name. And then also being cognizant of city branding, and bilingual and Braille across the board. So it’s it’s a big task. I did some very quick. I’m talking to foundries and the trophy place. And just an eight and a half by 11 is about $225. Now we’re going to be doing at some pieces. So chances are, we’re going to get a discount on that. But this is our chance to really do it right. But even to figure out what the timetable is going to look like. We have to know. We’re going to start with the things that we’ve installed recently and then kind of move on back in time. So yeah, what does and does not have plaques is going to be huge.

I think the one that I photographed it was missing was part of nature’s way where each of those has its own little plaque. And it was one of those that did not have a plaque. So

are we thinking about metal? Like bronze or something? Are we okay?

I think so because they, they don’t disappear as quickly. And if we do a good job in in spending the time to, to put the artists title date in both languages and in Braille. And, you know, this, this could last so many years, so, so many years. And better to have something than nothing. And going forward,

we will have kind of like the template for other things that we will be doing. So when we have other pieces, we can make sure. This is the template. You know, one thing I thought about after I talked with Angela today is maybe we should be logo free because our logo keeps changing, I don’t know.

But we would

need to want to make sure that our logo stays quite permanent. So we aren’t, that sounds like a silly thing. But I would love to see it be more permanent. And recognizable. Does anybody see what I’m saying? It’s brand.


And we have this new city seal. So it could be city seal. And then just in the same font type. Because all of this is already established, the city did a bang up job for Wayfinding. And some of the things that the city is really investing time and dollars into, that these things can can coalesce. And so in the same font, the same branding type, it’ll obviously go through communications to get their blessing on on the template before we you know, pull the trigger on anything. But then that these things will have that similar look and feel granted, it’s broad, right? There’s no the the look, right? has, you know, the design elements, but certainly brought to you by art in public places across the board. And then I mean, there could maybe be an opportunity to put a sticker of a QR code, or something like that to lead people to the internet and such. You know, maybe, but I think that that these are the things that we’ll figure out in design.

Hey, Marsha, I see you have a question. And then Andrea.

Yeah, it’s not really a question. I was just I was involved through the DDA, and and through the city communications about the Wayfinding project. And I wanted to address your concerns, Amy, that the logo is changing all the time. Because that project was designed and and built to last for decades. I think that that logo should last long enough that you’d need to replace the plaques anyway,

that’s great. I’ll be dead when the new logo comes out.

I’m fine with that sister

fine with that. Great, Andrea.

I would just like to add that I hope that we’re involved with the

continuing to adding of that plaque. Of course, we would go off the new city of Longmont plaque, but we are in public places. And I hope that maybe there’s a little more color or something a little splash error added to our little logo, which can be totally related and connected to the cities, but

in that as well.

I agree. Oh, I’m Peter, you were trying to talk and then maybe you got cut off, but you say something.

What is your dream then? In your palm trees? What would you like to see?

Well, I said something artistic if we’re art in public places.

Okay, good. Good. Um, so, do we need to get a task force to develop some type of logo thing? What do you think, Angela? Now, we’re working with a sick artist.

So the art in public places has the established circular logo with the door and then the city branding has its seal. And then elements of of that seal can be extrapolated and used and so there is a very comprehensive design and branding guide that the graphic designer will follow. And so really, I think the biggest thing that we as a group need to do to move forward is to assign either our assign ourselves to the artworks to figure out our order of operations.

I think that’s great. So I have a question for the commission. Would we like to? Cuz, I mean, this could take us a while. And it’s up to y’all. And would you like to assign yourself to pieces? Or are you willing to do this digitally and digitally, and sign yourself up? Because Angela talked about this, it could take us a while. So that would mean that we would need to go through all the pieces tonight, and sign ourselves up. And we can do it pretty quickly. I think because Angela, and I talked about that, or would you rather do it via a document? So let’s get some feedback on that.

How many open unlooked at pieces are there? Do

you know?

We thought sadly, about 7680?

That’s fine, everybody. 10 just assign everybody 10.

And we talked about that today. So maybe you all if you’re willing to send Angela and myself an email that says, hey, I’ll take this 10. But at the same time, would you all be okay, with us just assigning them?


At this stage, I

definitely would be. All right.

And I think that that’s what we’ll do is just alphabetically go through, then I’ll send the list to you with a deadline, and just do our best. And we’ll we’ll revisit this in January. That’s all right.


really, for this exercise, I will send you the link to the maintenance report. And if you are able to do it from your phone digitally or otherwise at home, fantastic. But for this exercise, just a yes. No, if there is a plaque, if it is plastic, or bronze, or not at all. And then a picture is bonus points.

Right. So really what you want is is a report on the plaques period.

Yeah, it let’s look at it this way. Also, if you see damage that’s on the piece. That maybe was not reported. Angela, just you muted yourself, sister. But if you see damage on the piece, that is like striking. There have been some suspicious things going on in the city in the last six months. So if you see things, put that on there, and then we will work to get that fixed. But I just think that this is a be arduous if we went through the whole list. I mean, if y’all want to we can all just take a little nap. And and then we could do that. But if you’re willing to if you’re willing to let Angela and myself split up the list and assign them, that would be fantastic.

I will do them over town. I don’t mind driving anywhere in town to fine for me to

try and consolidate them. So we’re working in grunts or doors or Yeah, right. I’m not gonna send you all over town if I don’t do

either emotion on that. Nope. Okay. So Angela is going to go ahead. And this duly noted, Aaron, that Angela is going to go ahead and I will help her as needed to assign pieces that we will all go take a look at all of us. Time get 12345606 1313 and then we’ll send an email out to those who were not able to attend. And let them know that this is our plan. And if anybody objects, and maybe a few of us could save a couple ever other pieces. I know that I’m on holiday break as of tomorrow morning at nine o’clock. So give them on I can’t wait to go look at some art. Any other questions or objections that we need to talk about? Excellent. You guys are amazing. You folks are so so so amazing. So now we are we’re already at 630 tour administrator’s report. Holy moly, thank


Oh, I forgot. Gosh, I’m so sorry. Oh, it’s okay. Oh, sorry. Courtney, I told you I would forget you. So hit it, Courtney. All right. Can

everybody hear me? Yeah, perfect. Perfect. Okay, so my name is Courtney and I am a senior at the University of Colorado in Boulder. I’m currently majoring in art history, but I’m also minoring in classical studies. So I started my internship at the Longmont museum back in August. And for like the first couple of weeks, and like in like a few weeks sporadically throughout the semester, I was working alongside Jared and exhibitions doing various tasks, but I spent the majority of the semester working with Angela and a IPP. So I started off by familiarizing myself with like, what it is that a IPP does, and also familiarizing myself with the pieces and the collection. I also learned how to condition report and I even completed a couple myself. So after this, like introduction of sorts, um, Angela kind of laid out a couple of prospective projects that I could work on for the remainder of my time as an intern here at the museum. And I decided on creating a walking tour for the pieces that are located in downtown Longmont. This way that the public could become more knowledgeable about the artwork that they see on a regular basis. I started off by giving Angelo a list of the pieces that I wanted to include on the tour. And those ended up being a merge, which is on the Main Street Bridge, los arcos brick sculpture, walk of life early on, and two of the newest pieces in the collection, which are Ursa Major, and the Tony Ortega mural under the same sign. And all of these are kind of centrally located downtown.


so after I sent her that list, she sent me file folders on each piece included artists statements and proposals, photographs and prospective documents, everything that I would need to start writing the blurbs of information on each of these pieces. So after that, that kind of like, started me off. After that I looked for like newspaper articles that had information on either the artist or the specific piece, which I found, in the times call the boulder daily camera, and I even found an article in The New York Times about the artists who did early online. And then after looking through newspaper articles, I started going through artists websites, trying to get like, more background information on the artists just to kind of get a whole picture about for these pieces. So gathering all this information, you know, I had to think about like, I was kind of asking myself, like five basic questions the whole time. Like who did it? Why did they do it? When did they do it? Where is it at? And then I think my last one was why, why did they do it? Um, so yeah, just kind of putting all that information together into a blurb. So that when people go and like visit these pieces, they have that information at the ready, kind of like the walking tours for like the historic tour downtown does. Um, so I was hoping that the finished project was not only informative, but it’s also, you know, conversational and accessible to the audience. And it I just hope it’s an enjoyable experience for the people who end up partaking in it. And they walk away with more knowledge about the artwork that decorates the city. So thank you, if you have any questions, I’m more than happy to answer. I found out quite a bit while doing this. I have it was it was incredible.

I really enjoyed this experience. It Susan has a question for you, Courtney.

Yeah, go for it.

Will it be

mounted, like the historical information on the buildings downtown, where you just can do it with your phone, like a QR, and it’ll talk to you?

Yes, that’s kind of what me and Angela had discussed either that or doing like a pamphlet that you can like, pick up at the local businesses downtown and then take the tour that way. But it was more likely to be kind of how the historic tour is where it’s like you scan a QR code and it pulls up on your phone. And you know, you can listen to an audio recording. Or you can just read it yourself.

Great. Love it.

Fantastic, Courtney. Anybody else have questions? She’s doing great, Courtney, I just want to thank you for your service. And thank you for all the time that you’ve spent. We are so grateful to you. I know. This has been a challenge to do everything digitally and to come tonight was not easy. And we love you and we thank you so much for your very hard work. Any other questions for Courtney?

Britney, I have a question about the internship. Is this just to see you as you get credit, is that correct?

Yes, that is correct. Okay, it’s like a class that you sign up for and then like, you kind of get to pick which one you want to like which museum you want to interact there’s like options.

I just I just want to say that interns rock I had an intern work for me this fall also and some some journalism work that I do and he was just absolutely fabulous. So having having that opportunity, everybody wins. So well. So, again, thank you so much for doing this. I think it’s really terrific.

I enjoyed it a lot. Yeah.

Good. Good.

We are so fortunate. Andrea has a question for you, my friend. Yes, that

sounds like a really fun project. I wish I could have been an intern. I was wondering, did you?

Did you? Were you able to present that to your class at all? or How was that graded for your internship?

Yes. So mostly, the class was kind of like a seminar. So like, we would have like weekly readings, and we would discuss, but at the end, we had a presentation that we had to give on the projects that we’ve been working out. So I got to present this project to them just two weeks ago, actually.


Yeah, and I’m pretty sure Angela’s going to be sharing what I’ve worked on with you guys to see, you’ll get to see everything that I’ve written. And like, the photos I’ve taken, I even like, took the tour myself and like got GPS coordinates for everything. So

sorry, I was nodding, my husband just kind of looked up, pulled up a chocolate and said, Do you want this I’m like, duh. And Courtney, and you have been such an asset to Angela, and to the museum and to the AIP team. So I hope we can all formally just tell you how much we appreciate your hard work, what you’ve done. We’re very, very grateful. It’s been a difficult time, and you’ve just stuck with us. So thank you so much. So everybody give her a hand. And she can. Thank you so much. You are a blessing and a pleasure. So anything else you would like to add, before we move on to our next item.

I want to say not only thank you to Courtney, but that I don’t want to toot our horn, Courtney, but Courtney has decided to apply for grad school. So go girl, you go and you get it and you take it and you run with it. And one of the things that we’ve continued to talk about in this process is really the differences in the similarities between art and public places and museum collections, and how I’m contributing to the culture of your community and these pieces that could be in an archival state or could be in a public community state, how that is important and how that thread runs. And so I just, I hope that you have had a well rounded experience and that that it really does add to your future. But yeah, um, so most definitely has done.

Courtney, I teach at Front Range Community College. So I’m just really, really fortunate that you became a part and I think you are a mentor for other students. And I would love to talk with you about that later on in another life. Okay, great comedy. Because I was so good. Anybody else? I’m sorry. I

had one more thing that I did. I think that art in public places is history in the making art history in the making. So I hope you view that when you go in with your museum studies and your history that you have lived art history by working with art in public places. That’s what I just wanted to add.

That’s a beautiful point. And Andrea has been involved with us, Aaron, are I mean, I’m there I just looked Courtney for that’s what zoom is bad about because you look down at names. And Aaron and Courtney are right next to each other. And Andrea has been involved with us for like, close to 25 years. 24 years. 97 I think you said give her take. She was like four years old when she started with art in public places. So thank you. You got you got a late start. You got a late start. So you better catch up with Andrea. Any other feedback with Courtney? You guys have. Thank you so much, Pamela.

Oh, no, I don’t know what happened.

I was just sitting here.

I just saw you turned on your sound. So I’m trying to look around. No,

I agree with everything.

Great. Again, thank you, Courtney. Much love to you much Happy Holidays to you. And so we are now on to our administrators report, which is our blessing. Angela Brill.

I think much to add, except that we have just this last Tuesday. Marcia, thank you very much for getting our three new commissioners to work fully loaded. Which is great. And some folks will be going off in June. But I think that we’re our outreach, despite all the COVID business, we’re penetrating the community in a good way. And and people are excited about what we’re doing. So that’s really exciting. I am very interested in some folks maybe acting as orientation, buddies, I don’t know the nice way of saying saying the buddy system. So who would like to be a buddy? And what I mean is just, we’ll have like a aipp, orientation zoom meeting together, answering questions, I’ll send you and that person, some documents to see. And then we’ll just have a quick little getting to know you situation. So when they come into this meeting, come January, February, that they don’t feel so out of the loop, so

be kind of like a mentor ship. Yeah, buddy. Not so much, buddy. I mean, buddy. Yeah, buddies like that. I’m a buddy. I love elf. He was buddy. But

yeah, and somebody they could contact independently if they had questions about something that’s going on, where we are in a project, just that kind of thing. So

yeah, it would be great. If you all would think about this. I, I would do it. But I think it’s best if we have my term. And in the end of May, we end. So I my term ends at the end of May. I would I’m happy to like, be with you all on this because I think I’m Randy and I are probably the most tenured folks on this crazy commission. But whatever you want, I think it’d be great to have somebody that’s active.

Angeles. anybody

hear me?

Yes, Laura, we hear you. Oh, okay.

I didn’t I don’t see myself in here. So I didn’t know if you

can hear you. But we don’t see you, sweetheart.

Okay, well, I would definitely like to do that. Be a mentor and be a buddy.

Cindy, you’d be great too. That’d be great. Um, and Randy. Yes. And I will say it one more time, as I said last meeting, I will be ending my term in May, as Angela made me cry today and reminded me and I again, I will say thank you for your support. This last four months has been horrible. But I feel like I’m on the up turn. After my dad passed two weeks ago, I feel like I can like focus a little bit and be really concentrated on this awesome organization. So thank you for your support. Anybody else want to be a mentor?

Let us say that you’re gonna really love the new commissioners. They are great.


I love everybody button. I love them extra. Thank you very much, Marsha, for your hard work on that, because I didn’t get vetted very well, but I’m really excited.

Another question is they will be having an orientation City Clerk’s office to go through kind of the city orientation. Is there anyone who did not participate in a city orientation? Susan, Holly, and Ella two.

So why don’t you all email Angela? Because I think it’d be a really great opportunity. I know that I did not get the training. I mean, I only have this much of Robert’s Rules. I read a couple books, when Tommy said, or when Tommy’s left, and I’m still not very good at it. But so please email Angela and say, Hey, I would love to do that orientation again. I’m sure it will be worthwhile. We talked about today some of the content that would be great for everybody. And I think I if I go on another commission and about 10 years after I get through 2020, which feels like it’s gonna be 10 years, right. Everybody?

Looks like it has been 10 years.

Oh, no. Um, so I have Sue Susan. Holly Aaron. I know Noah has not gone through city training. Anybody else who has not sat with Cindy and Don Cantona? Francis Anthony pretty sure didn’t know.

I’m pretty sure I didn’t either. Yeah, I

orientations like, like 40 minutes long.

I may even ask them. I mean, if they have enough room for all of us, it would be great because the city attorney is there. There’s all sorts of really important information that comes out of that training. I sat through it when I first arrived and it answered a lot of questions for me so

I I enjoyed the the orientation when I went and I did learn a lot.

Yeah. If they don’t have room for us, I might ask if they’ll do it independently for us or even record it for us. But I will inquire right now I know that it is scheduled for February 6, six. So those of you who held your hand up, if you wouldn’t mind sticking that on your calendar, and I will send you a reminder. And Angela, you know what, it’s probably going to be virtual. So I better be able to accommodate whoever you know what I mean. So just FYI. Yeah. Don asked me specifically, how many, okay, because it is not just our commission orientation. It’s every commission origin. Gotcha. So it’s significant. Gotcha. Sorry. Yeah. But hey, what’s five more? You know? I don’t know. We’ll see. Okay. Very good. And that that would be pretty much all I got.

Awesome. And let me tell you, I was telling Angela today, those of you who remember the good old Paul, nice. He was the king of Roberts orders. And he was like, he was just, he was the director of HR at Front Range for 10 years. And so he knew how to run a meeting. And he used to tell me that you have to quit babbling. And so Angela, and I both like love to talk. So we’re working on that. But Paul meese is really great advocate. So if any of you would like to reach out to him, he would love to talk with any of you and give you advice, too. So I encouraged Angela, to reach out to Paul and see if he wanted to help. He’s doing really, really well. Yes, Callie.

I just wanted to ask a quick question about the new commissioners. So will we see them in the January meeting? Is that when we’ll be invited? Yes. And hopefully that they will join us. I need to send them information. My goal was to get buddies tonight, send them information and buddy you up next week, allow them the last bit of the holiday season to kind of review. And then, you know, get a little more introduction prior to our January meeting. And I, every single one of them. One of them called me in advance, and we talked for an hour and a half. The other ones though you don’t like

to chat, Angela?

No. The other ones who attended our meetings actually ended up on other boards and commissions, they applied for multiple. And I think that it at least thus far everyone that I’ve emailed and say, Hey, let me tell me a little bit about you, has just been excited to be welcomed. So I think we’re in we’re in good shape. So I’m, and I’m Susan, sure they’ve all accepted.


can you tell us who they are? Is that like, private?

I mean, they have they welcomed and they went through the application process. So I’m gonna I’m gonna tell you and

I Angela, can I ask you? Do we need a vote on them?

No, that’s a that’s a counselee count. All right,

we don’t need to do that. You’re right, you’re right.

Hold on just a moment. So I’m gonna I might butcher this Trisha, Tris, Tris trsa. Krista Baxter. And Jennifer Miller. And Danielle, Danielle, da ny e LL. e. Danielle. haben caveny. So, Marsha was there for? interview so I trust

Marsha with everything, Marsha, you? You were impressed, right friend?

I was impressed with all three of them. I would say Danielle is has the most potential for creativity and drive. But everybody brings, you know, a lot of passion. All three of them do. I mean, there were some other applicants that didn’t but you know,

that’s great, Marsha, thank you. We don’t need to know any more you you will all get to know each other. More than you want. Oh, no, no, I didn’t mean that. You will get to know each other. And Marsha had the great opportunity to interview people. But I think it’s good for people to come into this commission on a clean slate. And know I trust Marsha with my kidneys and my heart because she’s she’s proven that she’s dedicated To this commission and to the city and so I think we just trust Marsha and say go, Marcia, thank you so much for your service. Thank you for giving us commissioners. And y’all Will you all will be gentle and kind with them, I hope. And I know you will. Because you’re amazing folks. And we finally, I think we finally figured out the interviewing process, the app applicant process, and Marsha has been so great and wonderful to help us with that. So, everybody, I think you’ll love them. Right? Yes, Marcia. Yeah, okay. Awesome. Keep saying that. Um, so we have this wonderful any new business, Angela that okay. Oh, Peter has some

I just wanted to get a give a little a little report that I was in contact recently with some friends from like, way back. So when I went to high school with who has lives in Maine and Delaware and is living the way she’s been all over the country, she has a brother who works there was a great close friend of mine also who works in work in the film industry. So she’s she’s a very sophisticated and artistically inclined person. And I was telling her about being on this commission and what the art public places program does in long run. And she was just absolutely blown away. She she had never run into anything that organized and that well thought out and, and it really made me feel good to be a part of this commission and to be someone living in Longmont. I just thought I’d pass

you’re living in the palm trees, Peter. I don’t know if he ran Long live, we don’t have palm trees here.

Yeah, I’m, I’m in the Mekong Delta right now.

Thank you, Peter. That’s beautiful. I really appreciate that. And I find that being in Texas, Austin has this huge art influence. But that’s it. I mean, the rest of Texas, they just don’t really care that much. So I went and looked at some art the last time or the time before in Austin, and they’re kind of on the same path as us and they’re at a million people. So that’s pretty cool. So we’re really fortunate to have the support of City Council, and the love of all of you. And we all come from different backgrounds and areas. And I think we bring so much to this commission that whether we’ve been here for two years or 49 years. I think that’s a good thing. Alright, so let’s move on. Susan, please tell us about your eerie Middle School virtual trip. Andrea? Oh, sorry, Andrea.


You’re muted. Andrea. You’re muted.

Are we still at commissioners comments? Yes, ma’am. Okay, well, I just wanted to comment about the new Longmont book by Eric Mason. I was privileged to be gifted this book. There’s lots of pictures, lots of great stories. It is not a doll history book. And it’s about time because birth it nyuad hygena hygiene. Lions, every little small town in Boulder County had a book, but we didn’t. We finally have it. And it’s amazing. Amazing. So go out and get it gift it to your friends.

I hope everyone got their copy cuz they was Thank you,


My coffee table.

However, Andrea, and hygiene Lyons I think we’ve all had a piece of my grandparents were here in 1907. So it’s pretty cool. Thank you.

Shout out to the parks book, which I can’t I have it. But I Paula Fitzgerald also wrote the parks book, which there’s a section are in our public offices. So both of them are on sale at the museum. So to Andrea’s point, if you’re thinking about gifts for family and friends, there’s the history and then there’s also the parks book.

This is a weird thing to say that when I went to my dad’s house two weeks ago, I sent him the long MacBook that was I shouldn’t say free. And he had it next to his bed. Like he was reading it. So that’s he He was a managing editor of the long times call. That’s how I got here. And so long, that meant a lot to a lot of people. And I’ve learned that and I think that we have such a beautiful, rich history. And I think that’s something that we should value. Thank you, Andrea. What a great point. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Andrea, or Angela.

All right.

I think we are really close, Susan.

Yes. Yes. And again, thank you for that gift of that book. It’s really very cool. And you can you know, it’s not like sit down and read, but you can, you know, look at it, put it away, look something up. If a question comes up. It was just very lovely. So, thank you very, very much for it. Yes, well, the universe, talk to Angela and I and we talked to the universe. We were meeting with Noah and Angela, myself, we were looking for spots for some of the new artwork. And I grabbed Angela’s air during a quiet moment and said, Oh, I don’t know if you remember I talked to you about I wanted to do an educational piece in art in public places. And so we talked about it. And the very next day, she sends me this email, like,


our conversation is on because the eerie middle school art teacher just call and wants to know if we have a program. I said, Oh, right. Let’s do it. And we did. We I mean, quickly pulled it together. I feel like I know what Courtney’s talking about when she went into everything, and did research about Hi, what were when. Because that’s andreassen. I’m sorry, Angela sent me a bunch of files probably came from you, Courtney. And went through them. And we went through some slides. The long and short of it was we put together a deck, a slide presentation for the middle school, we did it. And I felt I presented it. Angela chimed in when I was like, Yeah, I don’t know what that means or can’t answer that question. Well, let’s throw it to her. So I felt like it was very successful. The feedback was that it was and that they were engaged. These were middle schoolers, and they didn’t have to be there. And they get did kind of have to come to Jesus talk for a minute from their teacher, I don’t go off screen. And it was hilarious. It was great. But it was it was really well done. And then I was just so high from it, I got off, I was like, emailing Angela, we gotta do more, we got to do more, we got to get this all together. Because once you have a deck made, once you’ve got your slide and presentation, your research done, it’s like boom, boom, bada boom, you can just roll them off. So I sent Angela a list of all since this was prepared for middle school, all the middle school art teachers in st frame and a few of the charter school ones that I could find. And so hopefully we will expand it. And I think, especially during this time of virtual and COVID. You know, it’s it’s hard, oh my gosh, art teachers, it’s really hard because of the hands on or they’re not hands on or you get tired of the art history, whatever it is their curriculum is doing. What a nice, easy process to like, here’s art in your community, and we’re going to have somebody else talk about it for a while and you don’t have to listen to me blah, blah, blah, show. I feel like it’s a great moment for it to happen. And I was empty. I was just thrilled about it. And I hope we can just keep that ball rolling at it.

It was awesome. And if you didn’t know that Susan was a teacher and is just amazing at presenting and engaging kids. She she proved it in spades. So yeah, it was me like who doesn’t want to talk about artwork that’s in a bathroom like, it’s pretty fun. It was great.

Thank you, Susan. We are very grateful to you. Thank you so

much. My pleasure. And I really do have we can keep the ball rolling on it. So yeah, exciting. Exciting.


Gosh, are

we Lucky this. Sorry. I’m just like, what a great community. What a great group. Okay, I’m going back to my agenda now. Okay, we got him. I have nothing. Um, are there any other commission reports anything else we need to address? before we adjourn, not really adjourn. We are journeying to our holiday extravaganza that has been so creatively put together by our friend and our leader, Angela, who just now put on her hat. So what I would propose that we adjourn this meeting. I would love it if Nicole Nicole, do we have to record this?

No, ma’am. I’m gonna adjourn it. I’m gonna watch it. I’m not gonna join it. You guys are gonna

join it.

I’m going to stop the recording. I’m going to make Angela

host. And as much as I love you all, I’m

tapping out and I’m gonna go eat some dinner.

And I love you too. I know, Nicole, I love it. So we need to acknowledge Nicole. She has been through so much with us. And she has put up with some stuff that she shouldn’t have had to and I just, you are. You’re just so wonderful. And we thank you for your time. And at 702 on a Thursday night to have to put up with crazy art people. We love you very much. And we thank you for your time.

So a big applause. Thanks, guys. I appreciate it. Thank you.

You’re welcome.

Oh, here goes my dog again. Let’s give it if you notice that I’m muting a lot. It’s because my dog has gone nuts. He’s nine months old and Marsha’s cat at least she doesn’t he doesn’t bark.

Stick around for very invigorating, witty trivia,

and I’m gonna win. No, I’m not

an A major award. And if you don’t know what I’m talking about, you might not want to play.

So we’ll just give each other five minutes to take a little break.

Need to formally adjourn first though.

So we need to have a motion to adjourn.

I make a motion to adjourn.

I Second.

All in favor. So let’s return at 707

or any you guys

can keep talking.

I’m happy happy. Merry Merry.