Longmont Water Board – February 24, 2020

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go ahead and get the meeting.

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called to order to do the roll call.

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Todd Williams here. JOHN Caldwell, President Kathy Peterson here. Renee Davis here Roger lane,

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Nelson Tipton, Wes Lowery, dear dear

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francy cheffy

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Jason Elkins,

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Heather McIntyre’s here.

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Councilmember Martin here.

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Next item is approval of the previous month’s minutes for January 27 2020. there any questions, comments on the meeting minutes? If not, is there a motion to adopt or approve the meeting minutes?

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Motion to have a second. motion and a second. Further discussion?

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Hearing none, all those in favor say aye.

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Thank you. The water status report.

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Data Flow at the same rate increases the lion’s gauge at a ATM was 20.3. CFS historical average of two teen CFS for this date.

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Ralph prize reservoir binoculars at 6387 feet, which equals 13,440 acre feet so now approximately 20 760 acre feet

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and we’re currently released in 20. CFS from

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union rates for HIV is at 23.58 feet, which equals about 9086 acre feet. So down approximately 3100 or so.

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And we’re really saddened by CFS roughly.

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colonization great Greek is unionism or had been number of may 2002 71.

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their priority date of 10 619 oh two.

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So, Union so party so around a little bit of water. We’ve got some icing issues because it was very cold the first part of February but other than that now we’re back kind of running,

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taking all that we can so it’s more the column the main stem of the South five rivers Burlington day Chapman number 22,002 39 will take priority data 1121 1910 currently no call affecting district by local storage at the end of January

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approximately 71% of average. And then snowpack was we’ll go into more detail on a slip back under water supply of other Colorado’s roughly 18% South Platte is one to 9% and st brands between 131 35% of average

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Any questions?

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All right, thank you.

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Next item public invited to be heard or special presentations. Are there any public that would like to be here today?

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Great. Go ahead. Okay. I brought an article. This is a science journal research article that’s been in the news lately about Colorado River, which will

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kill you and see.

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Can you see how to come to the place that this is? The Science Magazine, her dissertation advancement of scientists actually research paper. And so I was going to ask

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all of you get copies it a bunch of copies.

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Oh, yes.

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Okay, Weiss, who he is, right. And so yeah, that’s more understandable, probably. But this has got all the

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Great. Well, thank you beat me to the punch.

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You said there’s no special presentations

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and that’s item five, item six. Is there any agenda revisions or submission of documents? Yes. I have one for the legislature. He asked me

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to give you legislation

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for this bill is one sentence

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was born. This is actually house on a national level

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Okay. Thank you.

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Next item is the development activity looks like Western.

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Yeah, so there’s a number of development activities

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five different forms requiring board action.

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Separately all together with me, well, they all take recommendations right? So I’m wondering if we don’t one by one and do a recommendation on each. And then we can just work our way through and then

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then we can maybe talk if there’s any major comments, we can talk one by one, I got kind of a comment over the one we go through.

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So the first one in front of the board is sheer milk annexation. 17.44 acre parcel located south great rest of your eyes and wants to be road or no historical water rights burden into the annexation, before the sugar mill annexations presently compliance with the raw water requirement policy. This time will be a time of final plat

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satisfaction 52 point 32 acre foot deficit.

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Additionally, I understand that the proposal for this annexation would be to put in approximately 112 parody homes

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and parent homes.

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So Excuse me. Oh, yeah. Yeah, it’s probably gonna be like your new place. It was something like that. What is there now on that? So, right now, I don’t think there’s anything this one is being managed. I drove out there this morning. And that was really curious because it’s, uh, I was trying to figure out exactly what i mean i

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exactly where this 17 acres is because it basically it’s old, one of the Great Western holding ponds. I mean, it’s, it’s cat tails.

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So I’m just well well

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Don’t I mean, again, this is out of our bailiwick, but it just was kind of strange to me that unless they’re going to

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yeah between Westlands and between Philip

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they I’m sure they know what they’re doing but it was just curious that speaking of what’s there now it’s a

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mothers trailers and nothing else

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out there too. Well, that’s just on the east. That’s there’s a, there’s a

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kind of a

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Quonset thing that’s just east of on the side of this.

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I was amazed how many residences there are down there along

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Great Western and South a great West and there’s a I didn’t realize

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about the Great Western developments.

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But pm that’s that was curious to me.

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With our

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that’s interesting, I think we’re planning they’re planning to bring them flat in front of

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in front of the DRC. And probably water more in the very near future. So when we do we’ll

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have a little bit more detailed information, but certainly no doubt why with whatever. Oh, of course, of course. Yeah, it’s probably what we found is most plans in a DFN development or that way for a reason, because they’re not the easiest to develop. So this sounds like could be

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someone this one we won’t know till later, probably what they do in terms of cash in lieu or I mean, they they don’t have any money to war, right? So it’s all going to be cash and we were Mackintosh or something long

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story, I would not be surprised if it’s cash flow. Okay. And then, I guess with regards to the water supply and demand analysis that was done, I assume this was included. I mean, all these words

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included within that and I guess what I’d be curious if there’s big land use changes from what was modeled in water supply and demand in relation to what’s actually coming in.

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So suddenly I don’t know what this was this plan land use wasn’t that famous but write that down

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as as I recall, it’s the same plan land use that was prescribed but we did our analysis. So spread some words Okay. All the way we use

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was based on envision long range

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have to be the same land use last night apply for a few scenarios, which is

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good if I remember I would envision one month only the big question was I had some that were pretty flexible.

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So how that was modeled in relation to what actually we see in a manifestation you may not know a lot of that but yeah,

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These come through they’re like a mixed use and already it can be a number of things right. realize what actually happens.

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Not be realized or understood.

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But I guess it does follow. I mean, if it’s duplexes triplexes I mean it’s still more dense development and stronger

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a question of no one was out there

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sir homeless encampment out there. There’s one right there somewhere and I was wondering still no, I, I didn’t drive.

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I basically was I was reading I was just driving along. Great Western drive. Okay, and there’s actually a road. It’s pretty interesting.

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There’s a road that takes up Great Western it goes down

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to this. It’s not a quantum but this

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storagee that’s just

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It’s off of coming live.

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It’s kind of an interesting mix of stuff.

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So I had a question, Marcia, where is the in terms of the set development set back from St. Rain? Where is that Dylan discussion? Or is that part of regulation or where where is that discussion that is part of regulation that there is 150 foot setback for envelopment. There is

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both spreadsheet but it’s essentially a checklist

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of things that you would have to satisfy in terms of benefit to the city would benefit to the environment, if anyone wants to apply for a variance to that setback. So is it is regular media. It is regulated, it’s in the code and the default is honored

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by the side from St.

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That’s pretty fine.

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Okay, any other questions or comments? Otherwise we need a recommendation. All these tech recommendations right was correct. The Council for approval. We’re going to see it here. What’s up? Oh verba head

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yeah, unfortunately computers update. Same time. We’re trying to use it.

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Yeah, so here here’s

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Yeah, this Yeah, so this Yeah, this is the Yeah, this is where the cat tails are and here’s the here’s the river and actually, we I guess this this list straight line is actually there’s a berm

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that goes on there’s berms here so

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I guess it’s not really a wetlands that I guess I’m assuming they’re gonna have to do some fill or I

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don’t know it’s just it’s really an interesting spot

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that’s what that’s what it is. So mine

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Well, actually though, that one line just for America, well, I was gonna say the lines back there. Yeah, but, but this those that obviously captured the

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Okay, we forward to this city council.

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Okay, we have a motion to recommend this to the city council. Is there a second? Second? motion a second further discussion?

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Hearing none, all those in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed. All right, thank you. So the next one is the highlands subdivision final point. The Highlands flats a 52.89 acre parcel located north of state highway 119. West Polk County Road. One. All the historic water rights are transferred into annexation.

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Island subdivision final plow will be in quiet in the cities are allowed required a policy upon satisfaction of the 37.1 to two acre foot

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and time of final plat approval. So this was part of the low annexation.

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proposal there is for 42 single family detached years 10 three

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storey condos kind of an entry level, and 67 townhomes, which are classified as luxury townhomes.

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We’re expecting for this one the owner has been or the developer has been acquiring on a story of water rights for sometimes been running for the sea for their inclusionary housing efforts. And some will be probably getting on a story for this to be Macintosh or Macintosh and maybe some oligarchy.

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Any questions on this?

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If not, we need a recommendation for approval to the city council on this item.

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I move that we send a recommendation of city council motion we have a second Second. Motion a second further discussion.

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Hearing none, all those in favor say aye. Opposed. Thank you.

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Next item is the mountain Brook subdivision. Finally, one final point. So the nonnberg surfing on five flags and 38.5 acre parcel located south Rogers road West and forth 95th Street.

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Again, stormwater rates are transferred at time annexation. It will be in compliance with the rock settings rollout required a policy upon satisfaction of the 12.563 pigfoot dumps in a time of final cloud approval. So the proposal here is for 92 Senior family olds and then eight duplexes, the duplexes will be through the Habitat for Humanity. And this is the same developer that’s developing the prior one that was described as a to plan to use historic order it’s

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another affordable housing. It’s going to be a component of that through our

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soul there be a I know we passed the chains

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The ordinance or whatever the word was could so to the extent that it affects the young and that would be included. So we’re there still a member come into play with their amount that paper category where the amount of water or it has to be a percentage there there. The on this particular one that 92 single family homes is greater than the amount and you have to have a greater than whatever the percentage, but with these eight duplexes it didn’t trigger that versus and I wanted to identify specifically that there was four duplexes, so we’re going to be the

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grocery, thank you.

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Okay, any questions on this?

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If not, we need a recommendation to Council.

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We have a motion for recommending this for approval. The Council’s are Second.

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Motion a second. Further discussion.

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favor say aye. Aye. Opposed

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Thank you. So next one is Mount Brook subdivision. Finally number two, so right next door to the last one we just talked about also so meldrick subdivision Valley number two is final plat and 28.13 acres itself Rogers really was the

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story of why racing again were transferred to time annexation. This final plat will be in compliance with the roller requirement policy upon satisfaction of the 9.93 acre foot deficit on this particular plat are proposing at single family detached

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20 multifamily condos or apartments and 29 townhomes. This is going to be they’re describing is a multi year build out so this is going to take a while to fully develop this one. But again, the same developers the prior to plants use not a store for the bulk of your satisfaction.

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So just curious what the

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what they brought through to filings? Because I think some of it has to do with the ownership. The xanex. HMS annexation came through there’s multiple owners are part of that annexation. Some was I think there was some of that involved. Different ownership. Yeah. Yeah, I think there was other reasons. I’m not sure what they were.

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Any other questions?

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If not, is there a recommendation to Council for approval?

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motion. Is there a second?

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motion a second for the discussion?

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Roger, Roger, Roger.

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Yeah, yeah.

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all those in favor say aye. Opposed? Okay. We’re here. We gotta remember

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A failure. So the river said annexation is a 7.24 acre parcel located north of Rogers

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sunset street no swimming water race permit represent annexation for river semantics ation is compliance with the raw water requirement policy and diabetics ation and will be a time of final plat approval satisfaction the 21.72 APR for deficit. So this one is a proposed mixed use employment zoning is what I was given

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their thinking up to 32 live work units and then some commercial retail but those will be fleshed out like

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what what’s the address again location I say 18 South sunset street teams, the northwest corner, nor nor the nor actually the northeast corner of sunset

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Bobby’s rooms across from Boulder, Colorado materials.

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So that’s an interesting quote. So it’s currently a county enclave right?

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Essentially, essentially, there’s Yeah, there’s another piece of it’s not yet annex on the east or the west side of because I was here. I noticed on the work that it says, Roger rhodonite was curious if that was still because it was mcalary versus Boston, because it’s

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coming. I think it is being lost lost now, but it says so. I was just curious what that was about. Yeah. Suffice it to say is the parcel this directly north of current rights, and he’ll be Boston. But I was just curious that the reason that it’s Rogers on the paperwork is because it’s still kept then as far as the county is concerned, it’s it’s Roger minutes.

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Better just north and Roger, correct.

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Well no it’s that well, well gets

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really noisy

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so lots and lots of instruction and a lot of constructions yeah lost in the parking is concrete. So awesome actually to the to the north. So this is this was a piece not all by Lawson directly adjacent so he’s got he said a bunch of equipment parked on this Yeah.

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Yeah, but it’s roughly that rectangular

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the northeast corner

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Tiger I’m here

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stop their developer now.

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But that what they’re talking about I think it really will create an anchor on that corner that will help facilitate the that because that whole area from

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On Boston is going to get overtime to get redeveloped. And by having an anchor there, it’ll

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seem like it just facilitates getting that stuff done. I think we’ll see probably this year plan, annex to the west of sunset Street. So through

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your further question, could I just have as a payoff for doing some of the same brain resiliency brain work? Because I think part of the alleviation of flooding in that area as part of what spurs the development

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motion forward to city council,

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emotions are Second.

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Second, motion a second. Is there further discussion? Hearing none, all those in favor say Aye.

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Oppose and right here in the room

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structure was drain boiler. Remember foods so last is sick lestrange finally number three final 5.9 point two two acre parcel located south Nelson road east and 75th Street was green finally number three finally flat, maybe compliance with the city’s rollers. Policy concert action is a 5899 a perfect episode and a time of approval. So this one is a

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development that’s going to be developed by Martell homes are planning 143 single family detached residence and this one they’re planning to pay cash.

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So that’ll be

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any questions on this one?

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If not, we need a motion for recommendations and recommending it for

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approvals council

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their emotions their second

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motion a second further discussion? Hearing none All those in favor say aye I

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posed that yes only general comment if I had them all at about 185 acre feet between non historical cash and Luna for these six, so just a complete tally as much additionally they’re not historic or in the sounds like the majority is non historic, but quite a bit of its cash and when we receive the cash live payment is $500,000. Here to give cash little at home and be about 3 million. We already know that songs gonna be for the story. So yeah, it’s there’s another development that we will be brought through. In January for English filing three, they also plan to be bringing a check in tomorrow. That’ll be about a little over $100,000 or so.

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Well there’s one for all of these are all together. Yeah

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yeah, it

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was a lot

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we’re about 2% of the rest of the

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Academy in terms of

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worse, I know could be worse

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Alright, so we’re under looks like an item eight, a which is city along monkeys tree Creek, Water District rapper County Water Authority and united water ag

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for water exchange agreement? Yeah, I’ll go ahead and do that.

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So as you indicated, the short term watch play exchange agreement,

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considered 19. A, working with those fire districts

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that the board may recall on might have been entering into this particular exchange for five plus years now. So the only thing that’s changed from year to year has just been the year of actual dates on there, so everything’s kind of kept the same.

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The basis of the stage agreement is water for water. So he’s Jared maelys, Cherry Creek and Arapaho will use their concrete with consumable water to help meet long lots

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judge last component of our union reps for change to create 1782 to two and and the reason it’s a benefit to us is that the ditch was in July and August again, like it’s really high.

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though we have to get the ditch last component down to the union ditch at a lower lately checking into visa to change that game. And there’s typically dry up in July and August right around that lower late and it makes us a little down. So East cherry picking up a wrap up will have their water rights that are are actually measured in income and below that dry out. So it’s really helpful for us. And they don’t have to pay a lot of digital assets. They have a comment down there. And so then the benefit to them is that Mahmad has one decree for consumable water rights that

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will help me their winter returns low obligations. It will be from November 1 to October 31. So, like I said, it’s water for water and benefit to both parties. It’s been working on both for the last five years and will continue to do them

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each year.

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Got a couple questions. Any other questions?

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It’s so much in such a water supply plan that that’s what they’re going to use for being able to use long ones water what is long have to do? Is it are you guys allowed for your decree that use? Yeah, their water is a source.

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So, so they have to get state engineer’s office approval, okay. And then we can use our full consumer water exercises them to meet its decree for augmentation, replacement, etc, etc. So as long as it’s approved by the state, then it’s allowed by the Bible.

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But it was just one of those new subscribers. So they get they have to get the approval.

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These Cherry Creek rap on 95 from the stagehands office so we as Longmont do not since the bars are concrete to either replace the program farming Yep, last item. So it had in here that they can’t provide water, any subject political entity or for any use within an urbanized area defined in chapter 14.09. Is that for the tribe

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cities along with municipal code both for the water supply Rudy’s area as well as any water in the Wildcats. Yeah, okay. And you also saw on there we have that new paragraph we’ve added recently for us it mentions is don’t know this water can be used for water. Yeah. So yeah, that stated right in there now. Okay.

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All right. That was all in Was there any? I’m just curious turn the disk losses, I mean, is there any thought of mining the ditch or reducing losses so so it’s a little bit different companies are good for its return flow and ditch losses. So

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as part of the

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so so when we went was when city llama did to change case. So so they’re not injured. Then the water rights that were removed from the ditch just so union lower late than and vishu. So so they’re not injured, the other Cheryl is remaining and those ditches were required.

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As we go through the court process to make sure that they’re not impacted so that’s why we have to be the digital us to direct it. So typically what that digital us will do is stay in the ditch for it. So now the other remaining shareholders are are injured, they don’t have to pay the additional on top of what they already have to deliver. You follow me since we turned the water rights out of that ditch? Okay, I hope I did it. I think I can understand Yeah, it’s really paid for the

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destruction occurred

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prior to 1986. Water right that pertains to the water rights that city of Longmont okay changed. And that’s typical for most of the change cases that we that we do. All right. So the remaining shareholders are not impacted by the change to create anyway. So they’re not hardly

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any other questions? Is there?

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This is just the amounts that we exchange every year turned out to be pretty similar pretty consistent what I was saying

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We we exchange on our 608. But they only do 300. Is there any adjustment or whatever. So how that worked basically, john is because we don’t know when we do the the exchange agreement now what exactly obligations are going to be for until we

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are filled period is done, June June 30. So I’ll be chair, so. So we have to have that done into the state. By the first week of July, we have to figure out how much was stored in our CEO, Walmart’s accounting unit was born and we calculated to place modifications with the digital. So that’s why I put a max number in our 600 acre feet. So once that’s calculated, then we know what that number is, and then that’s the number they need. And then we’ve city Longmont matches that. So it can’t exceed but it can go anywhere between there and it varies each year on how much was

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Store and we were down almost 5000 acre feet this year

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and a good portion of that 85% of the city Walmart’s

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you know sharing that, but the amount that they provide is the exact amount that regardless of whatever it is, okay? They do their part first and then we match it because there is there’s in July in August and ours is November right March.

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Sequel mouth, water for water.

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Without the Walmart if there’s a dry up, and I’ve said this each year is

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we can meet it individualized, we can meet it. But we have to typically have to slog in order to get it all the way down 30 something miles and then you have the transplant sometimes it increases when it gets dry. So we were kind of done. As long as we have this exchange agreement we don’t have what other benefit you get, as you can meet it without for direct

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fairly certain if you had a slogan, you break the union’s

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levels or go lower to right. Yes, man. And before this exchange agreement, we were slugging it when it was dry, right? In some years, you know, we have rainstorms and we don’t have to dry up and you know, it varies from year to year typically answer, but Susan or Morgan seems like regardless, this isn’t one was supposed to improve. Yeah, yeah. It’s done really well. Okay. So any other questions, comments? Otherwise, they want to recommendation? Yes, please from the waterboarded Council, and most likely, I didn’t indicated that most likely you will be going to City Council on March 31. Kelsey gets pumped in any way that vehicle but for now, it’s March, the last meeting in March. Okay. So, motion to make a recommendation Council for approval of inter governmental agreement to make a recommendation for approval of this inner governmental agreement. Emotions are Second.

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Second, motion a second further discussion.

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Not all those in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed. Okay. Thanks, Nelson. Yeah, thank you

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was given Good News of the workplace.

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So I’m just kind of all of a sudden the information Nelson in the board. Included in the packet is monthly information from a number of sources that are currently in the USDA is Colorado water supply output report and that report out each month

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because this month has been a week later, we’re only a week away from getting the new report however, suffice it to say in their February 1 report,

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they reported that the snowpack in the South Platte River Basin was above normal and 119%. They saw precipitation in January was 79% of average and that brought the water year today to 99%

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reservoir storage at the end of December was on 11% of average, compared with 104% in the last year. So to summarize, we were in better shape than we were in the past. So that was good news.

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As we move forward to cover pages in your packet, looking at the reservoir storage in January, a little more specific,

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we had, the selector is worth about 138,000 acre feet in storage, compared to the year prior which was about 773,000 acre feet in the storage, an average of 758. So the South Platte looks good in terms of storage.

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Moving forward a couple pages we as always take closest attention to the forecast for the savory the lions.

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Again, the expectation for both April through July and

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The September is that we have a greater chance than average of exceeding our stream flow forecast for those periods. So let’s keep evolving as we move forward depending

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most predominantly on the snowpack, but as their February 1, we were expected to have a greater chance than not having average. So back.

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The next couple graphs, South Platte River Basin history, that’s for the NRCS.

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It was recording as in February 19%, of average of around 127% for the South flag, which was which was good to see.

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On the next graph, the Upper Colorado was showing it 114% so both of which were above average. And as you see from either these graphs, you can see the pay attention mostly to that kind of like last year was indicative of most of them. One good snow and they were

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Marsh makes a big difference results usually So, so what? So hopefully we get one or two of those and that’ll put us over the over the hump.

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So we’ll bring back the updated information next month.

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The last page is has more than water snow watch information, which showed the same thing, everything running above average.

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This particular one shows a golden light was significantly above the prior data.

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So we had good wisdoms down low.

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But we’re also quite having those early snows that we seen in February or in November. That was good as those are the snows that we sold on top of ice and out late so I don’t want to jinx it, but right now.

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We’re going to make you know those were

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any questions for us on WaterSense report?

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Thank you.

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million bees the monthly legislative report.

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Yeah, I just wanted to

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wanted to update you on to Bill’s

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House Bill 1097, which was a bill for the interconnected systems

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already has been changed using inter connected system. It has a committee

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and Senate Bill 2153 which was

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which we’re proposing to set up a water fee for water projects you guys

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require does have a pretty healthy water rate increase.

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Customer for something else’s water project

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was postponed in the senate ag committee.

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those two bills are done.

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I did have today,

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copy of the bill.

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House Bill 1164. Really just one sentence. Actually, the title the bill, Isabel fernack, concerning an exemption of the housing authority from certain fees imposed by water Conservancy.

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And so

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censored centers

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given exemptions from water Conservancy district fees.

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The central proposal in addition, or property or time or nature, owned by Housing Authority with a water Conservancy district is exempt from any taffy or development impact the impulse my water Conservancy history so

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don’t have a whole lot of information from another lot of concerns they have called norther. Last I talked on the board had not taken a position but I don’t know if they

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can but it was before okay. So

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so I don’t have a lot of Conservancy district reactions to it

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I would think they would be opposed to it. We’re just it has not

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it is no excuse me it is on the house as isn’t the second meeting without sort of started little tiny bit

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and helped I

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guess, we’re probably leaning towards opposing it for simple reason that

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the language I couldn’t find you really definition of tough peer development.

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Yes, yes. If you read the language you would presume that that means treated water. You know the water Conservancy district I’m aware of in the state provides tree water is the water consumer searchable by Palisade Grand Junction area and

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this may be coming out

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there and I’m not sure from them their thoughts on it but I would I would have preferred to have it defined and also starts to make me uncomfortable whenever we started giving away free by statute.

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I think it could be

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definitely will positive itself city should provide free

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once you once you start this

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So, I don’t know if the board is prepared to take a position yet, because I fortunately don’t have a lot but I wanted to highlight it to

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consider it and see if you have an opinion.

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If not, I’ll certainly continue to try it and I can bring back more information. Excellent.

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thoughts on that they were just longer we learned the people. The people are returning back. You know, so yeah.

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Janice rich is from Mesa County, which is the conservative district.

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Karen Becker’s here, Boulder. Actually, she represents Boulder.

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I think she’s from Boulder and Rachel

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Sensing or is from Jefferson County

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and I don’t think it’s I don’t suspect is much their issues Jim switches because

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just wretched riches are republican from Kevin Scott a little bipartisan support

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crowd from Boulder House District

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so it does have also said it

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does really well and fortunately I

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know the other

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initially opposed to it just because it’s pretty

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I’m concerned the tap fee should be defined. I would hate for to

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do read

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assessment know the water ladies assessment on CBT

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an equal share bye bye 1000 years should should somebody say well, that’s that’s

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where the water does morning water so they don’t do tap fees that

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trouble me what somebody could

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say that really means Mr. For me it’s also that then you start taking

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that step one

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so sounds like stuffs suggesting repurposes

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So from my perspective with toughies development p

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system development charges, assuming that’s what they mean, those are really important that growth pays for growth. And the part that I’m curious about what makes it a housing authority can some developer stable housing authority so we don’t have to pay fees. And and you’re right if it’s just a treated water Conservancy history doesn’t seem to affect us, but I don’t I don’t take it. personally. I don’t like the president. No, I think growth really should pay for growth. No, because it is probably otherwise to find a statute that is not defined. It’s titled 37, which is water, and it’s not divided. Right. So I agree with you. Again, I believe when I read it, I believe I know that I was in authority means Sure.

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I don’t know that it doesn’t seem to apply to us right now. But I’d be comfortable for me to have a motion to

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oppose this to recommend that we oppose this.

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Other thoughts?

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So when you guys wanna make a motion

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and movie oppose House Bill 20 1164 seconds or second motion second further discussion?

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Hearing none All those in favor say aye

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Thank you, Kimmy they also thank you yes.

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Okay, nine see which is the window for me project. Yeah, I don’t have a whole lot to record. it’ll seem like not a lot going on out there in the present but actually varies quite a bit.

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The legal all the attorneys are all the cities have been working pretty hard on starting to develop an allotment contract.

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Struggling with the legal committee struggling with we have a contract and a operation

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contract, we bring them together. And it’s it’s

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much more complicated than sales. And that’s fine, too. All the sessions

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more, one more schedule coming up some working really hard on that. So hopefully, hopefully in the next month or two start to see some good progress on that.

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They will come before you talk about that.

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Not a lot of progress on Well, no progress since last month we reported on the federal case it was reassigned to a different challenge because of the backlog on the district cover. So

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I wouldn’t surprise me that that’s a number of months for Jesse crack the case.

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So nothing on that. Come on, stay water.

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rights case

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continuing now the Congress are still to remain the objectives will continue.

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hope you have been done by neighbors

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still always out.

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Going. The contractor is

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matter work getting getting

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proposals together all the different equipment,

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determine their methods and means working with the technical staff.

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Right now it’s

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getting questions.

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Okay, thank you can

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item 10 is on the board with you

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major project listings and items currently scheduled for future board meetings.

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will review cash and Alou again in March. So next month, sorry. Yeah. And hopefully, we’ll be able to Public Works natural resource staff report levels on union reservoir

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efforts. And then we’re expecting to have towards a report available for you guys to

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bring. Sounds good. Any questions on the

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next item is informational items and waterboarded correspondence. I handed out that the sounds like maybe the same report that you brought to research behind that. Oh, good. Yeah, I just gave the executive

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start meeting is first. Mine has all the charts and data

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That’s great.

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Anyway, I think this just came out I heard about this a few days ago. So I think it’s pretty hot off the presses.

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Sounds like in general, they’re talking about hotter temperatures, which, you know, part of the result of that is less snowpack and less kind of reflection from the

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from the snowpack, which means more at heat absorbed and more kind of issues with the remaining snowpack in the water supply. So they’re talking,

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thinking this are saying every Celsius degree increase means potentially a decrease in supply river flows by 9%. So that’s pretty,

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pretty scary.

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I guess the other thing and I guess the one other piece I wanted to maybe relay from my end is, so the city of Fort Collins did a drought,

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climate change analysis and how it would impact their system including CBT yields. So the Northern District I went up and we spend up

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Three hours going over that.

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In. In general, what I understand is companies are saying they’d likely be hotter but there’s enough alluded to it in this report, there isn’t really a consensus as to what will happen to preset. It’s kind of, I think there may be more variability, but they’re not sure it’s going to be necessarily less precipitation or more precipitation. That’s a little uncertainty uncertain with

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the studies today, but there may be more variability. I guess, in my mind, big picture is, you know, I know it may have impacts on the EDF firming project in terms of lower yields and what that means in the Colorado, the flipside of that is, you’re going to more variability, you better have some story

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to capture the water in the wet years when you do have supplies to carry over into maybe the more variability in terms of the dry years. So that was just something I wanted to kind of relay and that that study the Fort Collins

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If anybody has interest I can.

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I think I got a link to the study, I can send that to us. But they get pretty deep involved in the modeling of their system and how it would react a higher temperature and more or less precipitation.

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And what that means to the kind of vulnerability or reliability of their system, that’s what they were trying to look at. And then look at their water policies in relation to that. So anyway, just a couple of thoughts there. I didn’t know, I know, we went past public invited to be heard, but if you want to

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say is that everybody thinks that this is a precipitation issue. And of course, it matters if it’s rain or snow, but it isn’t just that, that bare earth because of the higher level evaporation and transpiration means that you can have as good or even better preset, but end up with less yield because of those losses. And that’s what’s really

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They this article is saying is going to very negatively affect the Colorado River, which of course then means that the water right, that supposedly might exist at some points in time for when the gap exists in much, much less poison.

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Once again, it’d be Canada variability of I think the last few years have shown me some good years where you can palm but you may have some bad years too, so the yield may go down, but you’re still going to have in some years to get a good year. Another thing that, I guess I’ll allude to and they allude to it a famous article is in 2026, is when the current operating guidelines for the Colorado River expire so they’re supposed to before the end of the year starting in renegotiating you know, five years in advance

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new rules and that’s going to be key to this whole deal to is how, you know, we’ve got drought contingency plans, but all that is kind of a stopgap until these new

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you know,

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Operating guidelines come into effect, because that’s going to impact upper base and lower base and kind of relationship in some of the allocation of the water. So there’s a lot of variables. Right now

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that anyway, this just kind of highlights a few of those that are common climate as well. It’s kind of administrative Lee. So anyway, thank you for bringing that I appreciate that. Yes, if we make some copies, I think it’s good background information, because you can go to the charts to see what they’re talking about in the press release. Appreciate that. I feel like I’m almost done. So so that’s why if you can do that maybe Western can for the next meeting. That would be appreciate the same kind of stuff.

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Any questions, comments on?

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Thank you appreciate anything else

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from the waterboard as far as correspondence item 1212 a, so we’ll consider cash

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In March, we talked about the annual waterboard record March as well.

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Yeah, go ahead. Just real

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reminder, no waterboarding or the spring water users meeting is April 7 and really and it’s open now if you just wanted to

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have a little color science

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engine really and then

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wanted I want to try to get you updated each month on the climate emergency and or the Climate Action Task Force is doing. So, right now we’re focusing on are those transportation, energy use so they haven’t launched or water.

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all that. Efforts coming up. March 3, City South is going to be doing

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their monthly update the city council, so that it should be coming out probably tomorrow, maybe Wednesday.

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But as soon as that back comes out, we’ll just email your coffee bag until you kind of see where it is and where it’s out. I don’t know, Marcia, if there’s anything else you wanted to know, you probably know that an ideal

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stuff for the renewables committee. We have several, essentially complete recommendations that have been spent already. I don’t know. They don’t go past me for the other two committees. Yet, but

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the middle of last week, each committee was supposed to submit at least one. So that’s kind of where we are in terms of how much volume that we can expect.

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Thank you for that. That’s all we got on the agenda today. Anything else? Otherwise I’ll adjourn the meeting. Thank you.