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S2E12: The Historical Creation of Karen with Crystal Lynese

Two women having a conversation while one of them wears a black hoodie

Karen is not new. White women have been bringing out their inner Karen for a LOT longer than you might think. So where exactly did Karen come from? In this episode, we’re joined by our guest Crystal Lynese, a DEI advocate whose work emphasizes Karens’ particular brand of oppression, to share with us the historical origins of Karen, what being a Karen REALLY means, and the importance of changing Karen behaviors so that Black and Brown people can live in peace.


We’re exploring:

  • How Crystal was impacted by racial trauma in her hometown (and why this sparked her DEI activism)
  • The original Karen and her impact on the civil rights movement as we know it
  • What it means for Black women to be at the intersection of race and gender 
  • The fence Karen straddles
  • Crystal’s TOP TIPS for recognizing your own Karen behaviors and how to put them in check
  • The ONE belief that has to stop in order to truly dismantle white supremacy, racism and the patriarchy
  • Why white men don’t need to Karen
  • How and why Black bodies have historically been used a currency and commodity, and how this has protected white women
  • Why white supremacy hurts EVERYBODY—not just POC
  • Crystal’s traumatic first experience as a young woman being profiled by the police
  • What still needs to happen for Black people to be TRULY free
  • And so much more!


Connect with Crystal Lynese:

Website – Crystal Clear Consulting: https://acrystalclearplan.com

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/crystalclearconsultant/

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/crystalclearconsultant

LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/crystallynese/

Twitter: https://twitter.com/crystal_lynese?s=20


Resources mentioned in this episode:

“The Willie Lynch Letter and the Making of a Slave” by Willie Lynch: https://www.tatteredcover.com/book/9789562916554


“They Were Her Property: White Women as Slave Owners in the American South”: https://www.tatteredcover.com/book/9780300218664


“Birth of a Nation”: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0004972/


James Marion Sims: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._Marion_Sims


“Moment of Truth”: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt13734570/


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